Re: [OT] bad disk & MacOS reinstall

2024-05-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
tes, that was the problem. Whatever it does automatically to understand what type of drive it sees isn't very good, at least with what I've got. I'll stick to the command line tools. > On May 18, 2024, at 02:51, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On May 18, 2024, at 01:46, Richard L. Hamil

Re: [OT] bad disk & MacOS reinstall

2024-05-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
at 22:32, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > The port smartmontools includes the command line tool. The port gsmartcontrol > provides a GUI on top of that, if you want (I've never tried the latter). > > It won't work on USB drives without a kernel driver (not available in > MacPorts). &

Re: [OT] bad disk & MacOS reinstall

2024-05-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The port smartmontools includes the command line tool. The port gsmartcontrol provides a GUI on top of that, if you want (I've never tried the latter). It won't work on USB drives without a kernel driver (not available in MacPorts). https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx/usb-drive-support

Re: Lilypond documentation (info+man) installation?

2024-04-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I'd say build it with +docs, but that failed for me: :info:build Making Documentation/out/lilypond-contributor.info < texi :info:build bibtex: Not writing to

Re: what app on a Mac reads/views ppm files?

2024-04-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Preview seems to display them ok. If you want to edit them, I suspect GIMP can do that; if course, you'd have to install it. > On Apr 16, 2024, at 22:44, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi; > > what app on a Mac reads/views ppm files? > > I've been looking at some code located on Rosetta Code

Re: force rebuild a port

2024-04-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
t -n upgrade --force --no-rev-upgrade harfbuzz > > > it completes in a matter of seconds... and the ol' MacBook isn't that fast :) > > I see cleaning, uninstalling, cleaning, installing activating, cleaning... > but never configure/building! > Why? > > Regards, > Riccar

Re: force rebuild a port

2024-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
; wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> port -n upgrade --force --no-rev-upgrade crankyport >> >> It might not work if crankyport needs the latest of something it depends on >> and that isn't already up-to-date. But a lot of times, it

Re: I just wanted to upgrade my older MacPorts version

2024-03-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
That's strange, in that /opt/local/var should have been part of the original MacPorts install, too. /opt/local/var/macports is workspace for MacPorts plus information about what's installed; all the other subdirectories of /opt/local/var are for the ports to use instead of using subdirectories

Re: force rebuild a port

2024-03-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
How about port -n upgrade --force --no-rev-upgrade crankyport It might not work if crankyport needs the latest of something it depends on and that isn't already up-to-date. But a lot of times, it does work. > On Mar 6, 2024, at 15:14, Bill Cole > wrote: > > On 2024-03-06 at 14:19:59

Re: PortGroup versioning

2024-02-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Can you think of anything, esp. edge cases, that might break if you didn't change the PortGroup version, that wouldn't break (but might require otherwise not strictly needed rebuilds) if you did change the version? Can you test any that you think of? Are all the repositories reliably

Re: Why all this GARBAGE WARE for one single app?

2023-11-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Not some scam, actual dependencies, direct or indirect. Think of it as feature creep, not by MacPorts but by the app developers. And also, anything they depend on, they don't have to re-invent. But yelp is the help viewer (with capabilities beyond a text editor) that gedit expects to be

Re: X11 and grads do not work after upgrading to Sonoma

2023-10-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I don't have Sonoma, nor Ventura up at the moment, but on Monterey, /usr/X11 is a symlink to /var/select/X11, which is another symlink. In my case, since I have the macosforge.org Xquartz installed, it's a symlink to /opt/X11. That is of course not the macports

Re: Timing of MacPorts Support for New macOS Versions

2023-09-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I suspect that the number of people supporting MacPorts itself (not just specific ports) is quite small; and they're doing it in their "spare" time, at that. What is typically involved in updating MacPorts itself (and any ports that have to be updated with it before others can be checked), and

Re: OT maybe interesting

2023-07-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Intel Macs have something called the SMC (System Management Chip, or something like that) which among other things, monitors all the temperature sensors and manages the fan speed. There are apps (on macOS) that can tweak the fan speed. SMCfanControl is one, Macs Fan Control is another; there

Re: would like to download the source of a port, but not install it (I already have installed it)

2023-07-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
newapple:~ root# port fetch file ---> Fetching distfiles for file ---> Attempting to fetch file-5.44.tar.gz from http://mirror.leaseweb.com/gentoo/distfiles/ newapple:~ root# find /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles -name file-5.44.tar.gz /opt/local/var/macports/distfiles/file/file-5.44.tar.gz

Re: best Xcode version for Mojave?

2023-06-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.html > <https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.html> > On Tue, 13 Jun 2023, 04:26 Richard L. Hamilton, <mailto:rlha...@smart.net>> wrote: > "On macOS 10.14, iTerm2 @3.4.19 requires Xcode 11.0 or

best Xcode version for Mojave?

2023-06-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
"On macOS 10.14, iTerm2 @3.4.19 requires Xcode 11.0 or later but you have Xcode 10.3." 11.3.1 is the newest Xcode for Mojave. Is there any known downside to Xcode 11.3.1 on Mojave rather than the 10.3 I have on there now? Space is tight, so I'm not sure I want both. And will I need 11.3.1

Re: gcc12 fault?

2023-06-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
You're right, it's zsh. And "which" seems to be builtin with zsh. > On Jun 1, 2023, at 11:46, contextnerror ​ wrote: > > I thought zsh was the new default shell? > >> On Jun 1, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> Try "type"

Re: gcc12 fault?

2023-06-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Try "type" rather than "which"; "type" is a builtin command in bash, dash, sh, and ksh. "which" is typically not a builtin. Usually they should say the same thing, but if they're not, something is odd, perhaps with your .bashrc or .profile or whatever. Pretty sure dash is the default shell in

Re: sockstat

2023-05-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
é-John > > Sent from my phone. Envoyé depuis mon téléphone. > >> On 12 May 2023, at 13:33, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> If it is, I'm not finding it. I'm also not finding it in homebrew. >> >> Looking around, the FreeBSD original is in C, but there is

Re: sockstat

2023-05-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
If it is, I'm not finding it. I'm also not finding it in homebrew. Looking around, the FreeBSD original is in C, but there is a perl script version of the same name and somewhat similar description (I did not compare in detail, and I doubt some of the FreeBSD features are feasible on macOS).

Re: Wine

2023-05-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On May 1, 2023, at 17:30, James wrote: > > > >> On 2 May 2023, at 2:18 am, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> Sure, a disposable, isolated environment (esp. one meant for extreme uses, >> like a Kali Linux VM) is great for suspicious software..

Re: Wine

2023-05-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
ould encrypt > the contents of the user's HOME directory. > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Richard L. Hamilton" > To: "Sean McLinden" > Cc: "Christoph Kukulies" , "macports-users list" > > Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 7:44:22 AM >

Re: Wine

2023-05-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Sure, but for some things Wine is good enough and even better. Back in Mojave (32-bit support) and earlier, one could use WineBottler to make a Mac app using Wine that invoked a Windows program. I had that for abc_tags.exe, which is more convenient than VLC for fixing batches of mis-tagged AVI

gtk3 on Snow Leopard build failed

2023-04-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
...and things had gone so nicely on Snow Leopard for awhile now, until this: :notice:build ---> Building gtk3 :debug:build Executing org.macports.build (gtk3) :info:build ---> Building gtk3 for architecture x86_64 :debug:build setting option build.dir to

Re: Cannot build glib2

2023-04-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Early MacBook Pro (13", mid 2010), High Sierra 10.13.6 (as far as it will > go). > > When doing my weekly port upgrade, it bombs out with: > >---> Building glib2 >Error: Failed to build glib2: command execution failed >Error: See >

Re: off-topic question: Apple open command and/or apps in /Applications are half-broken now

2023-04-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Apr 15, 2023, at 15:57, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi; > > off-topic question: Apple open command and/or apps in /Applications > are half-broken now > > I'm asking the question here because I think that there are lots of > people who might know either the answer to my question and/or

Re: what port(s) give me good control over processes (list, kill, etc) better than MacOS pgrep+pkill

2023-04-08 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
work fine. > > Thanks, > Ken Wolcott > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 9:27 PM Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> Not seeing that, if this fits your scenario: >> >> sh-3.2$ open -a TextEdit >> sh-3.2$ pgrep -lf TextEdit >> 68476 /System/Appli

Re: what port(s) give me good control over processes (list, kill, etc) better than MacOS pgrep+pkill

2023-04-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Not seeing that, if this fits your scenario: sh-3.2$ open -a TextEdit sh-3.2$ pgrep -lf TextEdit 68476 /System/Applications/TextEdit.app/Contents/MacOS/TextEdit sh-3.2$ pkill TextEdit # it went away... SIGTERM is (usually) like Quit; SIGKILL is like Force Quit. A process may ignore SIGTERM; the

Re: what port(s) give me good control over processes (list, kill, etc) better than MacOS pgrep+pkill

2023-04-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
While AFAIK there is not a /proc port, there are FUSE based procfs implementations for macOS. They are limited in the information they can provide, they're using system calls rather than actually digging into the kernel, so they can only provide what the system calls they use offer. So I don't

Re: WACZ (Web Archive Collection Zipped) software

2023-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I gather that not unlike a Java jar file, a .wacz file is a zip file with additional requirements as to layout (and that some components be stored (uncompressed) rather than subjected to "deflate" compression (those being mostly compressed already). If that's the case, you could probably

Re: [gvim: vim variant?]

2023-03-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
t;> On 26 Mar 2023, at 10:01 am, raf via macports-users >> > <mailto:macports-users@lists.macports.org>> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 12:36:05AM -0400, "Richard L. Hamilton" >> mailto:rlha...@smart.net>> wrote: >> >>>

Re: [gvim: vim variant?]

2023-03-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Mar 25, 2023, at 20:01, raf via macports-users > wrote: > > Ideally, it shouldn't be too mysterious. I remember seeing > Xresources details in manual entries, but looking at gvim's > manual entry, I don't see any Xresources specifications. :-( > It must be unfashionable. > > The

Re: [gvim: vim variant?]

2023-03-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
As an aside, perhaps the best example of using X resources to good effect to allow a user to adjust a program's behavior and appearance might be the xephem program (there's a port for that!), which uses Motif, and has GUI settings that effectively change X resources, which it can then save for

Re: Request for support

2023-03-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I've seen web pages mention the use of wget to back up websites, and mention using either MacPorts or Homebrew to install wget (which doesn't come with macOS). They also seem to suggest that rsync over ssh might be better (no credentials in the clear, unlike wget using ftp). MacOS does include

Re: rebuilding / upgrading a package at the same version

2023-03-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I use port -n upgrade --force --no-rev-upgrade portname The -n prevents rebuilding everything portname depends on (which would otherwise happen with --force ). The --force and --no-rev-upgrade should be obvious. You should do a port clean portname first, but if you are going to build with

tool for software security check?

2023-02-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Saw https://owasp.org/www-project-dependency-check/ and that it can run on Macs given that homebrew seems to support it. If there was a macports port of it, could that be run on macports ports (maybe even on the buildbots) to make sure that

Re: Install on Ventura 14.2

2023-02-02 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Guessing that the file you saw growing might have been a temporary name for a large archive file being downloaded, and for whatever reason (not necessarily on your end) the download was very slow. > On Feb 2, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Jim Secan wrote: > > Ran for almost an hour, but finally did stop

Re: What is "ghc" and why was it installed?

2023-01-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jan 17, 2023, at 11:08 PM, Fielding, Eric J (US 329A) via macports-users > wrote: > > I was running “port selfupdate” and “port upgrade outdated” for the first > time in a while, and I noticed that my Intel MacBook Pro was spending almost > an hour compiling a port called “ghc” that I

Re: question on py-simpy

2023-01-08 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
sh-3.2$ port contents py-simpy Port py-simpy contains: /opt/local/share/doc/py-simpy/README sh-3.2$ cat /opt/local/share/doc/py-simpy/README py-simpy is a stub port (installing it causes py39-simpy to be installed) sh-3.2$ port contents py39-simpy Port py39-simpy contains:

Re: symlink points to itself or nowhere

2023-01-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I don’t think that should happen! Certainly a link like that does nothing useful, just causes errors. For example: sh-3.2$ ln -s bogus bogus sh-3.2$ ln -s '' bogus2 sh-3.2$ ls -l bogus* lrwxr-xr-x 1 rlhamil wheel 5 Jan 6 13:39 bogus -> bogus lrwxr-xr-x 1 rlhamil wheel 0 Jan 6 13:40

Re: list of packages that are always compiled

2022-12-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Dec 26, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Joshua Root wrote: > > https://github.com/macports/macports-infrastructure/blob/master/jobs/port_binary_distributable.tcl > > > List which ports are and aren't

Re: list of packages that are always compiled

2022-12-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
There are license and license_noconflict lines in Portfiles; if a port and what it depends on (including include files, no pun intended) are incompatible (I suppose assumed if they are different unless a license_noconflict line in one (both?) Portfile says it’s ok), then that port cannot be

Re: a2ps fails to install (compressed log attached)

2022-12-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I have a Ventura VM (with Xcode and command line tools installed), and it’s not there, although there’s a man page in the Monterey SDK for the command line tools. > On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Marc Wilson wrote: > > I don’t have a Ventura machine to check, but /usr/bin/makeinfo is certainly

Re: dead man page links?

2022-10-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
created: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/65999 fsp https://trac.macports.org/ticket/66000 gimp2 https://trac.macports.org/ticket/66001 xxhash > On Oct 15, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2022, at 01:39, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> Given a

Re: Does the migration procedure keep ports versions?

2022-10-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
See https://www.macworld.com/article/673939/this-is-how-long-macs-and-macbooks-last.html and in particular down at the section entitled "When do Macs become obsolete?” This is NOT worse than Windows.

dead man page links?

2022-10-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Given a bunch of No such file or directory errors from man -k and/or /usr/libexec/makewhatis, I looked a bit, and /opt/local/share/man/man1/dot2gxl.1 is provided by: graphviz /opt/local/share/man/man1/fcat.1.gz is provided by: fsp /opt/local/share/man/man1/fcd.1.gz is provided by: fsp

Re: Does the migration procedure keep ports versions?

2022-09-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Doubtless someone will correct me if wrong, but I don’t think so. AFAIK, the “port” command cannot install an arbitrary version unaided, only the latest version. But one can go to the repository and fetch an older version of a particular port’s Portfile and use the “port” command with that, and

Re: Unable to build XV

2022-09-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
widgets, so openmotif is also required. > On Sep 18, 2022, at 8:11 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > >> I’ve not only seen that across various macOS versions, but something >> else broke the existing xv because one of the

Re: Unable to build XV

2022-09-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I’ve not only seen that across various macOS versions, but something else broke the existing xv because one of the ports the older version depended on changed where it keeps some libraries. Specifically, the older version of xv expects /opt/local/lib/libjasper.4.dylib but the new location for

Re: libgcc9 and other ports that will never build on my system

2022-09-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
d as roughly equivalent to a parenthesized list of whatever they expand to, if that makes any sense. >> On Sep 12, 2022, at 15:16, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> You can say >> >> port upgrade outdated and not badport1 >> >> or even >&g

Re: libgcc9 and other ports that will never build on my system

2022-09-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
You can say port upgrade outdated and not badport1 or even port upgrade outdated and not \( badport1 or badport2 \) although if badport1 (badport2, etc) is depended on by something else being upgraded, it will probably get upgraded too (and fail, I suppose). You can upgrade a port without

Re: ftp client

2022-08-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
If you can’t avoid ftp, gftp in inetutils is I think the usual GNU version, which is okay. Or curl can do a single transfer or transfer matching a pattern on a single command line, which would be easier to script than traditional ftp clients - but NOT for ease of use in the usual sense.

Re: Why so many gcc updates in the last week or so?

2022-07-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
f > doing them until you see the binary tarballs are available, e.g. at > > https://packages.macports.org/gcc12/ > > Chris > > On 21/07/2022 10:12 am, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> It seems there have been updates for one version or multiple versions of gcc >> o

Why so many gcc updates in the last week or so?

2022-07-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
It seems there have been updates for one version or multiple versions of gcc or their libraries nearly every day lately. What’s up with that? If one has to recompile (some are prebuilt, thankfully), that REALLY slows down updates. With 7 systems (4 of which are VMs at different macOS versions),

coreutils and findutils +universal configure problem on Snow Leopard

2022-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
coreutils and findutils +universal now may have a problem configuring where that includes 32-bit, specifically seen on Snow Leopard (due to cranky Internet, I'm a few days behind, so that might have happened anywhere in the last week+) :info:configure configure: error: in

Re: Warning: Error parsing file...

2022-07-03 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jul 3, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Michael Newman via macports-users > wrote: > > I recently had to reformat my boot drive, reinstall MacOS and restore from a > CCC backup. After doing so I ran: > > sudo port -u upgrade outdated > > And received many warnings like this: > > ---> Scanning

Re: MacPorts bind9 dig not working correctly

2022-06-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Looking at both with Wireshark, it looks like both send the query (and the Ethernet packet in both cases appears to be multicast, as it should be) and get the response. But it seems the MacPorts one doesn’t “hear” the response. Looking at dtruss output for both, it looks like the Apple version

Re: Mixing brew and macports

2022-06-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Brew installs into /usr/local which can if it duplicates files (esp. libraries or header files) in MacPorts, cause problems, because apparently not all tools MacPorts must use for building can be persuaded to ignore /usr/local in their search for files - so they might find and use the wrong

Re: Should I expect a +quartz variant to propagate to dependencies, and overrule existing variants?

2022-06-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The x11 (and perhaps quartz) variants do not all behave similarly. ffmpeg is a command line program for conversions and filtering of audio and video; it just has an optional ability to display video, but only on x11; presumably nobody ever wrote a quartz display alternative for it. But some

Re: During Migration to Arm64 mac, should I null out archs='x86_64' from installed ports list?

2022-04-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Would use of @loader_path as in @loader_path/../lib or whatever when linking binaries (and something similar for linking between libraries within MacPorts) not be a big part of making it so the executables and libraries didn't embed where the tree lived? There would doubtless be other changes

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
MacPorts is by nature not just one thing. There's the "port" command, related commands, the structure of Portfiles; there's the servers that deliver up both pre-built executables AND whether for lack of capacity to pre-build or because certain ports need to be locally built, may also deliver

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Is there a way one can see by examining Portfiles (ideally something that could be scanned for with e.g. a perl script), or preferably, with some "port" command, which ports require command line tools vs Xcode vs neither (albeit perhaps needing something to get a compiler port installed)? > On

Re: IRC channel

2022-03-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
n Mar 6, 2022, at 06:40, Marius Schamschula wrote: > > Freenode is dead, not just for #macports. > > However, #macports irc is now at libra.chat > > I’ll ping the channel. > > Marius > -- > Marius Schamschula > > > > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 3:5

Re: IRC channel

2022-03-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The #macports channel exists (I connected to freenode using LimeChat, but that was just the app I had already and the first server I recognized); there appear to be some people on it, but no activity right now - maybe they stay connected even when they're asleep, I don't know. I don't recall

Re: C API for ACLs

2022-02-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Use the source, Luke. How "ls" does it: https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/file_cmds/tree/file_cmds-321.100.11/ls Looks like the presence of an ACL and getting a handle for it is done in ls.c, and actually retrieving and printing all the entries (ls.c retrieves the 1st entry just to

Re: openat on 10.6.8?

2022-01-30 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Pretty sure it first appeared in 10.10, that's the first one for which I see the man page in the OS source code. Implementations lag behind standards, although admittedly that's a rather substantial lag. :-) (I've downloaded quite a number of versions of the source, and for each built an

Re: Understaning rleaves, rdepof

2022-01-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
ategy <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) > Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture > <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> > Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> > >> On 29 Jan 2022, at 14:31, Richard L. Hamilton > <mailto:rlha.

Re: Warning: The macOS 12 SDK does not appear to be installed. Ports may not build correctly.

2022-01-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Have you tried https://trac.macports.org/wiki/ProblemHotlist#reinstall-clt > On Jan 29, 2022, at 07:46, Gerben Wierda via macports-users > wrote: > > On a freshly updated macOS Monterey (Xcode updated, xcode-select install has >

Re: Understaning rleaves, rdepof

2022-01-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
You're using it wrong. Try for example port installed rdepends:xorg-libx11 Note the colon (no spaces) between depends and the port name. Same for depends, depof, rdepof, and others; see the port man page for details. > On Jan 29, 2022, at 07:20, Gerben Wierda via macports-users > wrote: >

Re: What have I forgotten about specifying which Perl should be /opt/local/bin/perl?

2022-01-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 11:13, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > > On Jan 22, 2022, at 09:36, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > >> I have no idea of the difficulty of such a change, but it would be >> interesting if Portfiles contained a release date, and the database o

Re: What have I forgotten about specifying which Perl should be /opt/local/bin/perl?

2022-01-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I have no idea of the difficulty of such a change, but it would be interesting if Portfiles contained a release date, and the database of installed ports had both a copy of that for any given installed version, and perhaps the date of installation. > On Jan 22, 2022, at 10:22, Gabriel

Re: Sms for text messages in macports

2022-01-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Every cell phone provider, or at least just about every US cell phone provider, has an email to SMS gateway. It's free for someone sending email to it, not necessarily for the recipient. The problem is you have to know the provider for a given number, and AFAIK, there's no particularly easy way

Re: certificate update for old Macs

2022-01-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jan 4, 2022, at 14:37, Michael wrote: > > > On 2022-01-03, at 4:12 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > >> The only problem with that or anything similar, is that unless you go to >> quite a lot of work to just download rather than install the PEM file, and &

Re: certificate update for old Macs

2022-01-03 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The only problem with that or anything similar, is that unless you go to quite a lot of work to just download rather than install the PEM file, and convert it into something human readable WITHOUT installing it, and investigate every certificate in there, you're trusting that the site you got

Re: Xcode 13.2 from App Store problem reported

2021-12-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
of app store upload, I guess). > On Dec 15, 2021, at 23:48, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > Apparently the developer download site (NOT Mac App store) version is ok. Not > that most of us are in a rush to update, but just in case... > https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/14/xcod

Xcode 13.2 from App Store problem reported

2021-12-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Apparently the developer download site (NOT Mac App store) version is ok. Not that most of us are in a rush to update, but just in case... https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/14/xcode-13-2-bug/

pwait?

2021-12-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
macOS does not have the "pwait" command that Linux and some other Unix versions have, which allows waiting on any process (not just a child), given the PID. There would definitely be uses for that, like dealing with a process that backgrounds itself when you wish it didn't, provided you have

Re: Use of java (specifically on older macOS)

2021-12-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
BTW, in Xcode.app bundle (12.4), /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/SharedFrameworks/ContentDeliveryServices.framework/Versions/A/itms/share/OSGi-Bundles/org.apache.logging.log4j.core-2.11.2.jar I imagine that will be getting updated not long after they realize it's there. > On Dec 12, 2021, at

Any ports use log4j 2?

2021-12-11 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
CVE-2021-44228 sounds kinda scary! -- eMail: mailto:rlha...@smart.net

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I would expect that the buildbots also need to satisfy dependencies, and thus, heavily-depended on builds would tend to be done earlier, regardless of whether or not they were large and slow; and if they are large and slow, they're arguably delaying the building of even more smaller ports that

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
It is _possible_ to write reliable, secure code in C or even assembler. But for large complex software, it's darn unlikely; there's too many ways to mess up, even for capable and meticulous programmers, and most, even if bright and useful, aren't _that_ good. Rust is supposed to eliminate a

Re: Does MacPorts depend on Spotlight?

2021-11-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
sh-3.2$ ls -ld@O /opt/local/var/macports drwxr-xr-x@ 13 root wheel - 416 Apr 16 2021 /opt/local/var/macports com.apple.FinderInfo 32 sh-3.2$ lsmac /opt/local/var [...] I- 11 items - macports/ [...] Mine doesn't have the BSD (Windows compatibility) hidden flag,

Re: Does MacPorts depend on Spotlight?

2021-11-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Mos Applie-supplied command line tools and C programming interfaces are in man pages, the latter only if you have Xcode and/or command line developer tools installed (and those aren't on the default search path for the man command, so finding them might be non-obvious). Some command line

Re: Does MacPorts depend on Spotlight?

2021-11-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 14:16, André-John Mas wrote: > > When looking at "System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Privacy", you can > configure exclusions by folder. > > I had a look at the mdutil command and no reference to folders or paths is > mentioned, when looking from macOS 12.0.1: > >

Re: Does MacPorts depend on Spotlight?

2021-11-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I also haven't found an intended command line way or program API to add a directory to exclude from Spotlight. (they are buried in a plist file in the Spotlight data directory for the particular mount point, and one could use command line tools to add it there, but I would NOT recommend risking

Re: Does MacPorts depend on Spotlight?

2021-11-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
you don’t plan on using it yourself to search the install prefix, you can > disable it. > >> On 16 Nov 2021, at 6:26 am, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> >> Seems it'd thrash Spotlight a lot less during "port selfupdate" or "port >> upgrade out

Does MacPorts depend on Spotlight?

2021-11-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Seems it'd thrash Spotlight a lot less during "port selfupdate" or "port upgrade outdated" to exclude /opt/local, as long as that wouldn't break anything (obviously one couldn't then use Spotlight to search /opt/local, but that's ok with me).

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-11-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
mpstats uses (by default the OS version of) libcurl (which you don't want to replace like that!) and not the executable, which is why what you tried didn't work (didn't work for me either when I'd tried earlier). As things stand, one would have to get the MacPorts source (not a port!) and

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-11-02 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I tried that too, and it didn't work for me either. Turns out from a comment on that ticket I mentioned previously that mpstats and other MacPorts commands (like "port"?) don't use /usr/bin/curl, they have a tcl binding to (by default, the system version of) libcurl. So replacing the executable

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-11-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Nov 1, 2021, at 03:12, raf wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 05:49:11AM -0700, Al Varnell via macports-users > wrote: > >> I see that I already have the latest ISRG Root X1 certificate in the >> System Roots keychain, so not sure why I would need to add it to my >> System keychain. >

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
on IMO is that mpstats should depend on the curl port and always use that version of curl and not the OS version. I added a comment to that effect. I don't know how to change the keywords to add later OS versions up through Mojave, though. > On Oct 31, 2021, at 07:59, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Years ago, creating a (then OS X, now macOS) VM under free VirtualBox was a horrid pain (which is why I'm running the relatively expensive but nicer Parallels for that and VMs other than Solaris). But apparently now it's relatively easy. You do need plenty of extra disk space and I'd say 8GB

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I think you're onto something here. (color highlighting added, not in the original output) sh-3.2$ # 10.14 sh-3.2$ /usr/bin/curl -sS https://ports.macports.org >/dev/null curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired # lines of advice in error message skipped here sh-3.2$

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
in possession (extended load) of a µVAX > workstation that I should try > to get working again. There is no such thing as a support contract for that, > and DEC does not exist any more. > > Rich > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Richard L. Hamilton"

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 12:02, Michael wrote: > > As a user who spent a week trying to figure out what was going on with more > and more sites not working, making less of the information out there > available to figure out how to solve the expired cert, it was really painful > to find out

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Subject: Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port? > > On 2021-10-29 at 07:23:38 UTC-0400 (Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:23:38 -0400) > Richard L. Hamilton > is rumored to have said: > >> You're (probably - seems plausible but I haven't verified it myself) >> right that t

Re: provide latest OS root certificates via port?

2021-10-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
You're (probably - seems plausible but I haven't verified it myself) right that that's annoying and fixable. But there's a big reason to think carefully about whether to do that. If something is old enough that it isn't receiving certificate updates, it probably isn't receiving security

Re: Is there a binary editor for MacPorts?

2021-09-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
HexFiend (installs /Applications/MacPorts/Hex Fiend.app) is a true binary editor; it shows a split view, hex on the left, characters (ASCII with anything else replaced with periods or spaces, I guess) on the right; you can edit either side. Unlike some binary editors, it can handle insertions

Re: socks proxy server for macOS?

2021-08-28 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Run it inside a tmux that you can detach from for ease of management; you can > always get back to it, but you can also detach and let it happily run in the > background. I'd also use -o serveraliveinterval=30 to make sure the > connection is kept alive. > > Good luck, &g

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