Re: Installing Octave on Snow Leo

2018-01-22 Thread Bill Cole
problem generally on SL is the trickle of creeping C++11 dependencies that have made it essentially mandatory to do this: https://trac.macports.org/wiki/LibcxxOnOlderSystems and then hack around breakage in ports like lz4 that blindly ignore the MacPorts tweaks that can allow them to build. -- Bill

Re: can macports be less strict with aux packages download?

2018-01-20 Thread Bill Cole
wly and even many core modules are maintained independently such that updated versions can be installed on "end of life" Perl versions. This is intrinsically difficult to fit into a package management system using an orthodox conceptual model of versions and dependencies. -- Bill Cole b...@s

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Jan 2018, at 11:09, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: On Jan 19, 2018, at 09:53, db wrote: [...] But since this is MacPorts, I wonder if anyone has had problems specifically with a port not working and crashing. At a mere guess, I'd say there'd be very little of that.

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Jan 2018, at 8:44, Jan Stary wrote: On Jan 19 06:48:37, rlha...@smart.net wrote: [...] but for backwards compatibility with macOS's pre-Unix ancestors, Huh. What are those? Not technically "pre-Unix" but rather "pre-MacOS X." MacOS X (i.e. 10.0) was the first version derived from

Re: What's the push to require the latest Perl?

2018-01-09 Thread Bill Cole
On 9 Jan 2018, at 10:30, Daniel J. Luke wrote: On Jan 8, 2018, at 9:46 PM, Bill Cole <macportsusers-20171...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote: An issue with that is the fact that some amount of perl5 code in the wild (often including widely-used non-core modules) is broken with each

Re: What's the push to require the latest Perl?

2018-01-08 Thread Bill Cole
ial attention beyond a simple 'port upgrade.' The advantage of an aggregated log of such changes like the UPDATING file is that it enables a project-wide policy on what should be noticed and how far back to retain old notices, and it would keep ever-growing records of change out of Portfiles. -

Re: What's the push to require the latest Perl?

2018-01-04 Thread Bill Cole
On 4 Jan 2018, at 4:53, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Dec 30, 2017, at 20:27, Bill Cole wrote: [...] If anyone involved in making MacPorts policy can explain this coherently, I'd greatly appreciate it. What other explanation would you like? Well, I'm not entirely sure... I think I've figured

Re: What's the push to require the latest Perl?

2018-01-04 Thread Bill Cole
On 1 Jan 2018, at 14:55 (-0500), Craig Treleaven wrote: On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Bill Cole <macportsusers-20171...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote: Ah, so apparently the reason this met total silence was that it got lost/dropped somewhere so only I thought it was posted. Odd... Re

Re: Macports and launchd

2018-01-02 Thread Bill Cole
r, which was Apple's first MacOS X replacement for init) plus inetd, as well as an alternative to crond. It is what Linux systemd should have been: a unified supervisor and scheduler that doesn't rely on a bunch of shell scripts of diverse quality. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@ap

Re: no more Quartz in new MacOS 10.13.2?

2017-12-31 Thread Bill Cole
deprecation here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/quartz -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Currently Seeking Steady Work: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole

What's the push to require the latest Perl?

2017-12-31 Thread Bill Cole
Ah, so apparently the reason this met total silence was that it got lost/dropped somewhere so only I thought it was posted. Odd... Reposted message: From: Bill Cole <macportsusers-20171...@billmail.scconsult.com> To: macports-users@lists.macports.org Subject: What's the push to r

Re: What's the push to require the latest Perl?

2017-12-30 Thread Bill Cole
On 15 Dec 2017, at 18:00 (-0500), Bill Cole wrote: In regards to https://trac.macports.org/ticket/55208 : [...] Why would help2man demand the absolute latest Perl? Well, because the Portfile says it does. However, in the real world, help2man is happy with any perl since 5.8. Doing a 'port

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