Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-30 Thread Christopher Jones

> On 30 May 2021, at 4:09 pm, Christoph Kukulies  wrote:
> 
> No, of course I didn’t read the port notes since I don’t know where one can 
> find them after having done a 
> port install.

You don’t have to find them. They are printed for you when you install the 
port, you just have to pay attention and read them

 > sudo port install inetutils
--->  Computing dependencies for inetutils
--->  Fetching archive for inetutils
--->  Attempting to fetch inetutils-2.0_0+client.darwin_20.x86_64.tbz2 from 
https://packages.macports.org/inetutils
--->  Attempting to fetch inetutils-2.0_0+client.darwin_20.x86_64.tbz2.rmd160 
from https://packages.macports.org/inetutils
--->  Installing inetutils @2.0_0+client
--->  Activating inetutils @2.0_0+client
--->  Cleaning inetutils
--->  Scanning binaries for linking errors
--->  No broken files found. 
--->  No broken ports found.
--->  Some of the ports you installed have notes:
  inetutils has the following notes:
All clients are now installed with the "g” prefix

> Why did they do that (prefixing the utils with a „g“). Is it now a GNU thing?

Its an explicit choice made in the port, to distinguish the GNU versions of 
these utils from the BSD one that come with the OS.

Chris

> 
> Yes, I know that it is insecure and what not, but for local connections like 
> talking to a port of a local process it’s just fine :)
> 
> And I also recalled how to quit the telnet session (on the Mac keyboard): 
> CTRL-ALT-]
> (^]) :)
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 27.05.2021 um 22:04 schrieb Christopher Jones :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I guess you didn’t read/notice the port notes when you installed inetutils ?
>> 
>> inetutils has the following notes:
>>   All clients are now installed with the "g" prefix.
>> 
>> Oberon ~/Projects/MacPorts/ports > sudo port contents inetutils | grep telnet
>> /opt/local/bin/gtelnet
>> /opt/local/share/man/man1/gtelnet.1.gz
>> 
>> Chris
>> ]
>>> On 27 May 2021, at 8:57 pm, Christoph Kukulies  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to get a telnet installed under macOS 11.3.1. Didn’t have it 
>>> installed before and some reading says it ought to be in netutils,
>>> but it ain’t.
>>> 
>>> Any clues?
>>> 
>>> —
>>> Christoph
>>> 
>> 
> 



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Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-30 Thread Christoph Kukulies
No, of course I didn’t read the port notes since I don’t know where one can 
find them after having done a 
port install.
Why did they do that (prefixing the utils with a „g“). Is it now a GNU thing?

Yes, I know that it is insecure and what not, but for local connections like 
talking to a port of a local process it’s just fine :)

And I also recalled how to quit the telnet session (on the Mac keyboard): 
CTRL-ALT-]
(^]) :)



> Am 27.05.2021 um 22:04 schrieb Christopher Jones :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I guess you didn’t read/notice the port notes when you installed inetutils ?
> 
>  inetutils has the following notes:
>All clients are now installed with the "g" prefix.
> 
> Oberon ~/Projects/MacPorts/ports > sudo port contents inetutils | grep telnet
>  /opt/local/bin/gtelnet
>  /opt/local/share/man/man1/gtelnet.1.gz
> 
> Chris
> ]
>> On 27 May 2021, at 8:57 pm, Christoph Kukulies  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m trying to get a telnet installed under macOS 11.3.1. Didn’t have it 
>> installed before and some reading says it ought to be in netutils,
>> but it ain’t.
>> 
>> Any clues?
>> 
>> —
>> Christoph
>> 
> 



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Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-27 Thread Dave Horsfall

On Fri, 28 May 2021, raf wrote:

It's also a horribly insecure protocol; I've even disabled it on my LAN 
(SSH is your friend).


telnet might still be useful for debugging other services (that have no 
authentication), although probably nothing that nc/nc6 can't do. but 
yes, port 23 should certainly be avoided like something proverbial.


Yeah, my router uses it for maintenance, but that's the only Telnet server 
here; I've even disabled the external maintenance port (the password is 
hardly a secret) so my ISP will have to ask me nicely if they need it.


-- Dave


Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-27 Thread Manfred Antar (KN6KBS)
I use telnet to connect to local cisco router.
This is a terminal server router and behind a firewall, no need to use sshd
telnet connects quick. I think is should be available to install


> On May 27, 2021, at 4:48 PM, raf  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 09:20:47AM +1000, Dave Horsfall  
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 27 May 2021, Christopher Jones wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess you didn’t read/notice the port notes when you installed
>>> inetutils ?
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> It's also a horribly insecure protocol; I've even disabled it on my LAN (SSH
>> is your friend).
>> 
>> -- Dave
> 
> telnet might still be useful for debugging other services
> (that have no authentication), although probably nothing
> that nc/nc6 can't do. but yes, port 23 should certainly be
> avoided like something proverbial.
> 
> cheers,
> raf
> 



Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-27 Thread raf
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 09:20:47AM +1000, Dave Horsfall  
wrote:

> On Thu, 27 May 2021, Christopher Jones wrote:
> 
> > I guess you didn’t read/notice the port notes when you installed
> > inetutils ?
> 
> [...]
> 
> It's also a horribly insecure protocol; I've even disabled it on my LAN (SSH
> is your friend).
> 
> -- Dave

telnet might still be useful for debugging other services
(that have no authentication), although probably nothing
that nc/nc6 can't do. but yes, port 23 should certainly be
avoided like something proverbial.

cheers,
raf



Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-27 Thread Dave Horsfall

On Thu, 27 May 2021, Christopher Jones wrote:

I guess you didn’t read/notice the port notes when you installed 
inetutils ?


[...]

It's also a horribly insecure protocol; I've even disabled it on my LAN 
(SSH is your friend).


-- Dave

Re: Telnet not in netutils

2021-05-27 Thread Christopher Jones
Hi,

I guess you didn’t read/notice the port notes when you installed inetutils ?

  inetutils has the following notes:
All clients are now installed with the "g" prefix.

Oberon ~/Projects/MacPorts/ports > sudo port contents inetutils | grep telnet
  /opt/local/bin/gtelnet
  /opt/local/share/man/man1/gtelnet.1.gz

Chris
]
> On 27 May 2021, at 8:57 pm, Christoph Kukulies  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to get a telnet installed under macOS 11.3.1. Didn’t have it 
> installed before and some reading says it ought to be in netutils,
> but it ain’t.
> 
> Any clues?
> 
> —
> Christoph
> 



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