Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread Dave Baldwin
On 14 Apr 2010, at 19:47, Daniel Lopes wrote: > Ops, sorry... small typo == isn't a big issue. Nobody cares for 10mb or 30mb > today. I disagree strongly. I have not downloaded apps because their size seems way out of kilter with the functionality they offer. Who wants to support gratuitous

[MacRuby-devel] building a GUI in macirb

2010-04-15 Thread Jakub Suder
Hi, is it possible to build a simple GUI (window, button, textfield, etc.) in the console (macirb), just for demonstration purposes? I tried that, but first I couldn't even construct a window (I was getting some horrible errors), I found somewhere that I need to call NSApplicationLoad() once, then

Re: [MacRuby-devel] building a GUI in macirb

2010-04-15 Thread Matt Aimonetti
You might want to look at the HotConsole project. - Matt Sent from my iPhone On Apr 15, 2010, at 2:07, Jakub Suder wrote: Hi, is it possible to build a simple GUI (window, button, textfield, etc.) in the console (macirb), just for demonstration purposes? I tried that, but first I couldn't e

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread robert gleeson
I agree, 100%, with Dave Baldwin. It would be nice to see the overall size of a MacRuby application reduced to somewhere between 5-8MB because of the reasons he listed. I don't think MacRuby can be a big player until we can distribute smaller apps. Rob On 15 Apr 2010, at 09:35, Dave Baldwin wr

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread Jakub Suder
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 16:05, robert gleeson wrote: > I agree, 100%, with Dave Baldwin. It would be nice to see the overall size > of a MacRuby application reduced to somewhere between 5-8MB because of the > reasons he listed. I don't think MacRuby can be a big player until we can > distribute sm

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread Daniel Lopes
I agree... and we also can dmg the app and probably it will be smaller than the zip version. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jakub Suder wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 16:05, robert gleeson wrote: > > I agree, 100%, with Dave Baldwin. It would be nice to see the overall > size > > of a MacRu

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread robert gleeson
Agreed, compression can help but the point is all MacRuby applications have a base-size of 30MB, while other dynamically linked Objective-C applications that do the same task are a lot smaller. Our application is 30MB before we write anything. I think thats the problem, even with compression(alt

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Folks, I think everyone needs to also put this into perspective. We have a very finite amount of engineering resources to devote to MacRuby development (as anyone who has followed the mailing list for the last year or so already knows) and we don't even run Rails yet. In the grander scheme of

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Size of the apps

2010-04-15 Thread Daniel Lopes
Can't agree more with Jordan. I just raised this question to know if I'm doing something wrong or 32mb is the right size. I already read the sources of MacRuby and I hope to help in near future (my C and ObjC isn't so good). On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Folks, I th

[MacRuby-devel] 0.6 almost there, need help!

2010-04-15 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Hi guys, 0.6 is now almost there. I need to polish a few more things and prepare a detailed blog post about what changed. A lot of things changed in fact, it's going to take some time :-) For this release, we would like to announce that MacRuby is now stable for Cocoa development. If you are w

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #649: NSNumber bridging problem

2010-04-15 Thread MacRuby
#649: NSNumber bridging problem -+-- Reporter: eloy.de.en...@… |Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker |

[MacRuby-devel] Please implement fork() ;-)

2010-04-15 Thread robert gleeson
Hello, I know it has been discussed before and I haven't really gotten a final word back on it yet. With the removal of the GIL, and Grand Central Dispatch fork() isn't really needed to achieve concurrency _but_ I have a particular use case that requires fork() and I'd love to implement my use-

Re: [MacRuby-devel] 0.6 almost there, need help!

2010-04-15 Thread robert gleeson
Laurent, Hey, awesome work! I'll check out the nightly later today/tomorrow for me. I think I've reported a few bugs so I'll check it out and report back to you :-P Thanks, Rob On 16 Apr 2010, at 03:39, Laurent Sansonetti wrote: > Hi guys, > > 0.6 is now almost there. I need to polish a few m

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #623: Overriding setRepresentedObject on NSViewController subclass doesn't seem to work

2010-04-15 Thread MacRuby
#623: Overriding setRepresentedObject on NSViewController subclass doesn't seem to work -+-- Reporter: n...@… | Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: new

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #629: Bindings not working for subclass

2010-04-15 Thread MacRuby
#629: Bindings not working for subclass -+-- Reporter: dy...@… | Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: new Priority: critical | Mil

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #637: Segmentation fault error with NSSearchPathForDirectoriesInDomains function

2010-04-15 Thread MacRuby
#637: Segmentation fault error with NSSearchPathForDirectoriesInDomains function --+- Reporter: aldar...@…| Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Please implement fork() ;-)

2010-04-15 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Hi Robert, fork() itself is easy to implement, the problem is that the program can very easily crash if CoreFoundation or the GC is called inside the child process. This is the reason why we decided to mark it as not-implemented. I do not believe these problems will go away any time soon, I'm a

Re: [MacRuby-devel] 0.6 almost there, need help!

2010-04-15 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Thank you :-) I did a quick pass and noted the following bugs already: https://www.macruby.org/trac/ticket/458 https://www.macruby.org/trac/ticket/629 https://www.macruby.org/trac/ticket/507 https://www.macruby.org/trac/ticket/628 Laurent On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:47 PM, robert gleeson wrote: > La

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #638: NSCFNUmber.to_f doesn't work correctly

2010-04-15 Thread MacRuby
#638: NSCFNUmber.to_f doesn't work correctly -+-- Reporter: jordan.breed...@…|Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker