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Looking at some web pages on Cocotron
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have HotCocoa provide high-level
abstractions for Cocoa (etc) functionality, cute ways to lay out
windows programmatically, etc. My only real concern is that it
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to speculate about desirable behavior (:-).
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One specific suggestion is that there should be a set of guidelines for
framework creation. That is, how do I tell if I'm creating my framework
in a manner that will be usable by other developers, similar in style,
etc? Some of this can be gleaned from perusa
o be that HC doesn't store as much information as we'd like
to have in the docs. No problem; add a few more methods (etc) to let
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* the ancestry of core Ruby classes (eg, String)
* the methods available to core Ruby classes
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can be
defined by the OSX framework (etc) that the mapping uses. However,
I could also imagine a need for mappings that cross OSX boundaries.
If we had a convenient way of "tagging" the mappings (eg, in terms
of the OSX methods they wrap), we could help developers locate the
mappings whic
when they use View
Source and Firebug to see what CSS/HTML/JS/... the browser is
trying to interpret. Could HC generate an intermediate format
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sort of thing in HotCocoa.
Dunno anything about how hard that would be, but I thought it might
be worth bringing up the idea. See http://limelight.8thlight.com/
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However, these will have to suffice for the moment, as Laurent
has had to cancel his talk at the SF Ruby Meetup:
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user- or site-specific "libraries" stored in initialization files.
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As long as I can type microgem (or better, ugem), I don't care
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improve upon these pages by:
* adding links to other projects
* adding details to existing pages
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t problem;
that is, discarding characters outside of the specified range.
Also, do we want to map newlines, etc? Anyway, irb sez:
>> a = "abc\x0adef"
=> "abc\ndef"
>> a.gsub(/[^\x20-\x7e]/, ' ')
=> "abc def"
>> a.gsub(/[^\x00-\x7e]/,
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to follow
along behind Laurent and produce the occasional PowerPC build. Any takers?
Meanwhile, I updated http://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/InstallingMacRuby to
reflect the new reality. The blog does not allow comments, so I was unable
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> with this challenge.
Please try to ensure that the solution works across multiple
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code base exists for a processor and OS, I'm happy to use it.
Nor, indeed, am I asking any particular developer to target
a given processor. I simply want any packaging standard we
adopt to be flexible enough to handle multiple processors.
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test failed
rake aborted!
Command failed with status (1): [./miniruby rubytest.rb...]
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(See full trace by running task with --trace)
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the Intel-specific code such that it doesn't even TRY to run
unless an Intel processor is being used. This could allow
PPC users to play with new MacPerl releases, albeit in a less
optimized manner.
Is this is a possibility?
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tate of rapid change, might cause Laurent and company
to lose time and/or focus.
So, I'll leave this as a request: if there are things that the
core team easily can do to keep the PPC code running in some
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I added some code to remove "moldy oldies" (output trees before
the most recent half-dozen). If anyone wants me to retain more
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ect:'
> 0:in `each'
> 136:in `protect:'
> 0:in `each'
> 185:in `process'
> 37:in `describe:'
> 12:in `describe:'
> 76:in `protect:'
> 0:in `each'
> 58:in `files'
> 43:in `process'
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At 09:51 -0700 4/10/09, Rich Morin wrote:
> My PowerPC build of MacRuby broke this morning:
>
>> E
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In case anyone here is interested, Allison Randal will be talking
about Parrot at BALUG on the 21st - http://www.balug.org
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Dataflow: Erlang-Style Thread Safety in Ruby
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The folks on Rubycocoa-talk are talking about a MacRuby
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Laurent informed me that I needed to update my copy of LLVM, as
discussed in the MacRuby README file. In order to do this on a
PowerPC, I had to modify the commands slightly:
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Thanks to all for the responses. I'm happy to hear that this
is a plausible notion and that appropriate folks are thinking
about it. :)
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No big deal, but it has been a week since I posted this and there
has been no visible response. Is there a better way to get this
on the RADAR?
At 00:33 -0700 7/7/09, Rich Morin wrote:
> On http://www.macruby.org/documentation.html, all of the entries
> (under Screencasts, Tutorials, Talk
At 11:41 -0700 7/15/09, Matt Aimonetti wrote:
> Mike is right, if you would send me a patch, I could get it
> fixed faster.
See https://www.macruby.org/trac/ticket/296
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http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=724882
Aside from that, I think you'll have to ask Google and/or
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page which then is redirected to open the original page.
Although this IS an effective way to keep the bug counts
down, it may not be the best overall strategy... Could
someone please take a look at this?
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At 21:17 -0700 7/30/09, William Siegrist wrote:
> Should be fixed now.
It seems to be, thanks. FYI, I had to clear my cache in order
for it to work.
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22 05:06:18.612 miniruby[9828:613]
*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'LoadError', reason:
'no such file to load -- etc'
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Yehuda is wicked smart and tends to reach for fundamental and
well-considered solutions, so I expect this to be quite solid.
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I recently bought "Cocoa Design Patterns" by Buck and
Yachtman. It occurs to me that it might be useful and
interesting to re-implement the patterns in MacRuby.
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... executable, but only run upon #require calls.
... will ran upon #require calls.
run
ruby(1) irb(1) ruby_deploy(1)
ruby(1), irb(1), ruby_deploy(1)
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of this, I gave up.
I realize that there may be something wonky with my configuration,
but I still think that it should be possible to build and install
MacRuby without going on a snipe hunt. Suggestions, anyone?
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I suspect that no Apple employee will be able to comment on
this, but I _really_ hope MacRuby will be among the blessed
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offer a forum in which MacRuby aficionados can discuss their
aspirations, fears, hopes, and opinions.
Of course, if Apple wants to close down this sort of discussion
on macosforge, it certainly can. Then again, I'm sure other venues
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I folded some information from Dan and Gary into a wiki page:
https://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoaResources
and tweaked the main page a bit:
https://www.macruby.org/trac/wiki/HotCocoa
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Would anyone here like to play "advance programmer" and
gain the glory and fame thereof? If so, give me a shout
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Xcode has some scripting capability. Might you be able to
hack up some scripts to automate away some of the hassle?
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iving such a talk and will be in
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At 7:54 AM -0700 8/8/10, Matthew Ratzloff wrote:
> We could just as easily have two lists, and those who are interested
> in bug reports could subscribe to both.
+1
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I really hope that he (or someone :) picks it back up, dusts it off,
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specific problem with the stdlib implementation. You should report this
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An app should NOT be able to destabilize the OS enough to
cause it to crash. That is a serious OS-level bug. It
should be reported (with details) to bugreport.apple.com.
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id, here are some man pages:
% man nice
...
nice -- execute a utility with an altered scheduling priority
...
% man renice
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renice -- alter priority of running processes
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I'd like to know a bit more about the activities (and
required skills) for the Bug smash days. For example,
my C/C++/Objective-C skills are rather rusty and in any
case, I have no knowledge about MacRuby internals...
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uby app organization? I'd assume that these would start
with the organizations used by Xcode and the packaging tool,
but I could also imagine slots for documentation, tests, etc.
Can anyone give me pointers and/or a rundown on the current
situation?
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y than Objective-C.
Even if HC isn't covered, per se, I'd like to see some
coverage of these sorts of style issues.
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At 6:57 PM -0200 2/4/11, Caio Chassot wrote:
> On 2011-02-04, at 01:26 , Rich Morin wrote:
> I'm sure the situation in JRuby land is worse, but
> generally, using Cocoa stuff from MacRuby feels
> enough like ruby, save for the HorridCamelCase,
> but I've gotten used to th
he fact that
MacRuby is an Open Source project...
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ing and can move on.
The next step, for someone with the time and energy, is
to pick a working MacRuby example and transliterate the
code to use this hack. That will allow folks to assess
both the performance and the appearance of the hack.
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o MacRuby needs to be
considered at all:
MacRuby.hack if code.nicer? and code.slow?
When and if that happens, we can talk about sanitary ways
to hack variant behavior into MacRuby's code base, etc.
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o sub-directory.
- Copy a file from the "Foo" sub-directory tree
to SketchUp's "plugins" directory.
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the event; let
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ent language and it can also be used for general
scripting.
I don't see either language going away any time soon, but Ruby
is a more portable job skill: there are lots of companies who
who hire Ruby programmers; there are far fewer companies who
hire ObjC programmers.
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June 6-9. So, I'm not in a good position
to suggest a date. Would some folks that are attending
please let me know which evenings/times to avoid?
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the regular BOF.
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Last night, he gave a shortened version of it to SFRuby.
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onday night (6/6), but that seems like a possibility.
Are there any objections or counter-proposals?
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At 12:15 PM -0700 4/14/11, Christian Niles wrote:
> Why Monday instead of Wednesday, out of curiosity?
no strong reason; just the fact that Mondays tend to
be light on Meetups, so we'd avoid some clashes there
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It sounds to me like there is a need for a detailed HowTo
on this topic. Might someone be willing to propose one?
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at really needs to be
> addressed in the Amalgalite gem itself ...
And gaining knowledge of how to handle this sort of issue is
also necessary to the development, deployment, and maintenance
of MacRuby.
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