Re: VO Drag and Drop

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
You will then need ot make the playlists manually on the iphone if you want to do it that way. I'm really tired so can't write clearly but perhaps someone who's more awake then I can help at the moment. Sorry for beeing brisk. Take care. S Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small

Re: Response from Dropbox Support regarding my inquiry

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yeah ou actually did. actually what they told me was we're working on the issue and we know about it. thanks. that was it. and I emailed b...@getdropbox.com btw. Take care all. i'ts off to bed with me maybe. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to

Re: itunes and podcasts question

2011-02-24 Thread Denise Avant
hi thank you for this great information. you're right, i did post to the viphone list, but since i'm in digest mode, may have missed your answer. again, thanks. i will try all of these. this started because i did not find main menu, but i did not do it the way you suggested below. On Feb 23,

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Thurman
yes but when an ap WAS accessible and no longer is that should be criminal and is disghusting let's hope that they give a damn and fix it if all developers didn't care abot s we wouldn't have the mac at all and i think apple does realise that alot of us are trning to the mac for accessibility

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Colin M
Hi all! As someone else said it is not Apples place to make dev's add accessibility! But [ and I do not know how this would work] could the apps star rating be made, so it would only get 5 stars if it is accessible! Somehow only people who use accessibility could put a rating that no one else

Re: Mac and PC accessibility: more similar or more different?

2011-02-24 Thread erik burggraaf
Hum, I'm not really sure this is a relevant question. When it comes to features, mac is solid. Not every need is met at this point and there is still loads of room for improvement, but day to day I venture to say most computer users would never miss jaws. Let's take your case in point for

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi Colin: Excellent idea! Anyone can wine and complain about a product or write a nasty-gram. A well-put together constructive criticism might actually do some good. Carolyn H On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Colin M wrote: Hi all! As someone else said it is not Apples place to make dev's add

Re: demand for yet another podcast?

2011-02-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol, You got a new Mac when they are being updated today? Thats pretty bad timing. I would send it back. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, Sometime in the next few days a new macbook is

speech recognition with Voiceover

2011-02-24 Thread Adam
Hi All, I'm a completely blind voiceover user in search of the most accessible speech recognition software out there. Is there a clear cut favorite on the market? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send

Re: demand for yet another podcast?

2011-02-24 Thread erik burggraaf
I know, but it's on funding so I'm stuck. I'm not complaining though. This is going to be a pretty sweet mac. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-24, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Jim Barbour
We've had several discussions on the viphone list about this. People's opinions vary on this subject, mine is below. There is currently no bar that is well defined about what it means to be accessible using VO. We've talked about just allowing users to rate a product based on accessibility or

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Yeah, but the thing is, we're such a tiny piece of the market that our money doesn't do anything here nor there. Just think for a while, how many are blind in the world, and i mean all of the world? How many of the blind are using an Apple product? How many of those Apple product users are on

New to the list and have a few questions

2011-02-24 Thread T wood
Hey everyone, My name is Tyler. Picked myself a macbook pro 15 core i7 about 6 months ago. Have had nothing but good luck with it, and now that I finally have gotten used to the thing I have a few questions. 1. How do you use dropbox? Or actually, how can't we use it? I thought there was a

Re: testing brailledisplays for mac and iphone4

2011-02-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
I can pair my Focus 40 Blue with my IPod Touch, but the pairing becomes disabled from time to time. In that case, I go into the Voiceover Braille settings and it comes up with the pin dialog successfully. Teresa On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:48 PM, David Tanner wrote: You are not going to the right

Re: speech recognition with Voiceover

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Nelson
Native to the Mac is Speakable Items. Speakable Items is accessible to Voice Over. There are some work arounds required if you want to define a new speech command, but other than that, there is no problem with it. Basically any command that can be executed through a keyboard shortcut can

Re: Mac and PC accessibility: more similar or more different?

2011-02-24 Thread Teresa Cochran
As far as web browsing is concerned, flash doesn't work well at all with VO, whereas some Windows screen-readers have support to flash pages with built-in accessibility elements. Other than saying this, though, I kind of shy away from comparisons. If I really wanted to use Windows because I'm

Re: speech recognition with Voiceover

2011-02-24 Thread Chris Moore
You would need to purchase Nuance Dragon Dictate which is now accessible with VoiceOver. On 24 Feb 2011, at 17:31, Robert Nelson wrote: Native to the Mac is Speakable Items. Speakable Items is accessible to Voice Over. There are some work arounds required if you want to define a new

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Jim Barbour
When you say I should be able to, you really mean windows allows me to I'm afraid the mac doesn't have menu keys like windows does. It does have short cut keys for individual menu items. If you want to navigate around the menus, you need to type VO+M and then use the arrow keys and VO+space to

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
I already did a youtube vid. just go to my youtube link in my sig and click the dropbox ink. itis short but it should prove a point. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
I pointed the dropbox devs to my youtube vid but they didn't even seem to look at it. at least I don't think so based on there response. so maybe the one who got the more detailed response can point them to what I did to demonstrate and see if that helps them at all as it is a screenshot vid.

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
or down arrow or enter to open a menu. Take care. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast:

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Greg Aikens
Or after hitting VO+M to get to the menu, hit f for file, e for edit, etc. and hit down arrow to open the menu. Just start typing the one you want and it should move you there quickly. Not quite as streamline as alt+f at first, but its not a major inconvenience. Greg On Feb 24, 2011, at

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
You could probably set those keyboard shortcuts up under keyboard but that would be a major pain! lol! Take care all. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM:

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Esther
Hi Kevin, If you want to move to the File menu or the Edit menu on your menu bar, after you use VO-M to move to the menu bar, just type the first letter of the menu item (e.g., VO-M, and then press f and you will be at the File menu). This works quite generally in Mac OS X, and is independent

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Robert Nelson
Dear kevin, I am sorry . There are no standard keyboard commands to open these menus. Sincerely Yours, robert Nelson On Feb 24, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Guys, I'm still learning to move from JAWS to VO, and from Windows to Mac. What I'm looking for is the equivalent of Alt F

Re: accessible radio apps

2011-02-24 Thread Html-man
But iTunes doesn't have many international stations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
What a strange post. I have to say the same thing I did then. So what? Just because they choose to ignore you, doesn't mean you should just give up. I will draw a parallel but off course this was a much bigger deal. When African Americans marched and petitioned for civil rights, I'm sure

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread T wood
I agree with this 100 %. On 2011-02-24, at 4:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: What a strange post. I have to say the same thing I did then. So what? Just because they choose to ignore you, doesn't mean you should just give up. I will draw a parallel but off course this was a much bigger

Re: Mac and PC accessibility: more similar or more different?

2011-02-24 Thread T wood
This is why I snicker. Diehard windows fans say how good jaws works. Works? Yeah, for the $1300 Canadian we pay here, it should! Imho, instead of adding useless features, fs needs to get with the program and get rid of bugs that have been evident since, oh, 7.0. I use fusion and NVDA. Jaws has

Re: Looking for keyboard commands for file, edit, view etc.

2011-02-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Kevin, There is not such a thing. There is though the ability to type the first few letters of menus and menu options. That is, VO-m to bring focus to the menubar, -e-s to go to the Messages menu, down arrow to open the menu, then either arrow or type the first few letters of the menu

Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Kevin Chao
Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion.

Re: i works

2011-02-24 Thread Kevin Chao
For a detailed and comprehensive look at Mac OS X iWork with VOiceOver, please see VoiceOver On podcast: http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com. Kevin On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: Is i works accessi? If not, what alternatives are there? Steph -- You received this

Re: iWork Numbers Detailed Look

2011-02-24 Thread Kevin Chao
Hi Jon, Aside from TIm Kilburn, who VOiceOver On Team had do demo; you are only one who has a knowledge of how spreadsheets work and provided anything useful. I wonder if you have experience with iWOrk Pages and/or KeyNote. VoiceOver On Team had ANne RObertson on to show those two

Re: testing brailledisplays for mac and iphone4

2011-02-24 Thread Dan Roy
Ahmed: can you input from the keyboard on the focus in to your iPhone and Macbook? I have an old pacmate 40 display that only works with USB. I can get it to display braille fine, but, I can't get any of the routing buttons to work on the display, they do absolutely nothing. The Focus 40 blue

Re: 27 inch iMac Firewire chipset question

2011-02-24 Thread Justin Kauflin
Very well put Esther, and thanks so much for the info. Very handy stuff. In addition to the points you made, I use Boot Camp to run a number of audio recording programs, and when running under Windows 7, I've encountered issues with the non Texas Instruments Firewire port with a number of

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread carolyn Haas
Kevin: What are you talking about? Who wonders? How did Lion come up? I'd beta test if they need people. But, I haven't heard word one about any of this. Carolyn H On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Eric Oyen
I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Brandon Misch
i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Carolyn, lol, um, I think he wonders? Let me try to clear it up a little. Today Apple released a OSX 10.7 Lion developer preview. So Kevin was just wondering if we are being represented among the testers. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 On Feb

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Well it does not take a whole lot to be able to test... You need to have a machine that you can live with if it does not work, and you need to register as an Apple developer. I believe indivduals can become developers for $100. Check the Apple developers web site for more details. Also of

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
how can you become one? I've got a MBP15 with 4M RAM and lots of space left on my internal. Whose finger do I pull? :) • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Eric Oyen
I am unwilling to take my one working mac and install a beta OS on it. I don't want to lose what I have now. I seriously need to find a used mac mini to do this with. my old core 2 duo imac is getting a little long in the tooth for this. -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn

Re: Mac OS X Lion

2011-02-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Go to http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/mac/index.action and click on the lion link. I am not currently registered so I could not get past the sign on page. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: how can you become one? I've got a

when i launch mac scan voice over has no windows

2011-02-24 Thread trahern culver
hey all i red on this list that mac scan was accsessable but every time i launch it voice over sais voice over has no windows and just dings at me!! does any one know how to solv this problem? your help with problem would be most welcom!! kind regards trahern. -- You received this message

music notation and the mac?

2011-02-24 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, Let me ask this with care so you follow what I mean. Is there a voiceover friendly mac program for creating music notation, say for sheet music and arrangements? For example, in Linux there is a program called Lilypond, which is totally command line so speech friendly. I am not so much

Re: music notation and the mac?

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
Nope not that I'm aware of if you want something like sibaelius or how ever you spell it there is nothing that Im aware of that is accessibil for the mac as far as I'm aware. I also arange and write music so I too am interested in this Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project