Re: how to get vo to stop saying an anoying phrase?

2014-06-02 Thread Kliphton -------
That did the trick! Thanks bunches, cause that inbeded really anoyed me Kliphton ~iMessage,EmailFaceTime-Audio~ kliph...@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 727-266-5283 Personal blog-read at your own risk! http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On May 30,

Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

2014-06-02 Thread Christine Grassman
I want to thank all of you who are trying to assist with your suggestions. However: 1. I did have music turned off in iTunes and app store. 2. I understand how to use the grid; before going into column browser, the album grid was not going past a certain point, no matter what I did. 3. I

how to get vo to stop saying an anoying phrase?

2014-06-02 Thread Kliphton -------
Okay, every since mavericks,, when in a group or thread of messages, voice over says inbeded I have been all l threw the verbosity, settings, and announcements of voice over butcan't seem to get this to stop. It only happens when I am in a conversation, and go to the next message,

Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Nancy Badger
Hello, I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. What I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then pushed TextEdit is not working. Please help! Thank you very much!

Re: iTunes cannot import CDs

2014-06-02 Thread Kevin Shaw
hi Kristeen, Set iTunes and Finder to do nothing and try manually importing by VO-Shift-M in the track list and choosing Create AAC Version. If you're still getting 3k file names, something's up with your iTunes configuration. A little extra work, but this way you can spot any problems. Kevin

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Nancy, have you used command y to look at attachments? I usually save mine out instead of just looking at them, but I have used command y whenever Ij want to look and not save. I did this in Mountain Lion as well. Command y is a Macintosh command and not a VoiceOver command. Regards, Gigi

Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

2014-06-02 Thread Phil Halton
this may sound strange, but I had the same problem when I first got my MBA. It turned out that I was having trouble differentiating the space bar from the command key - they both are smooth and featureless keys right next to each other. I made a long strip of braille tape with letter l's

Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

2014-06-02 Thread Brent Harbolt
Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes for me it takes three or four presses. I took it to the Apple Store yesterday but of course all of their diagnostics check it out is fine. So maybe this is just a glitch in voice over Blessings, Brent Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:27

Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
As I said yesterday, vo-space is almost never required. Try using space or enter instead, and see if that doesn't help to mitigate the problem. On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Brent Harbolt harb...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes for me it takes three or four presses. I

Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

2014-06-02 Thread Barry Hadder
Sounds like you nee to go into iPhone in your iTunes library. You can find it in the sidebar, or as a popup depending on how you have iTunes set up. Then, choose the music radio button and uncheck anything you don't want sinked. This will remove the items from your iPhone. I haven't followed

Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

2014-06-02 Thread Christine Grassman
I did. It hasn't. It used to work, but is no longer working. On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you nee to go into iPhone in your iTunes library. You can find it in the sidebar, or as a popup depending on how you have iTunes set up. Then, choose

Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

2014-06-02 Thread Brent Harbolt
Ok will try that. Thanks. Brent Harbolt - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over As I said yesterday, vo-space is almost never required. Try using

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread isaac
To open a mail attachments interact with the attachment and then press vo space bar to open the menu. When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger nancybad...@icloud.com wrote: Hello, I

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I've also noticed that this method is not consistent, it should work, but doesn't always. What I've resorted to doing is pressing VO-shift-m on the attachment, then saving it to my Desktop and going from there. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:35 AM,

recalcitrant Apple keyboard

2014-06-02 Thread Jenine Stanley
I have the Apple bluetooth keyboard and though I know usually when the batteries are going, it seems to often just be recalcitrant about keystrokes or commands. Today I have to exit Mail and come back in before it would register that I was hitting the delete key or enter key. Often in my

Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

2014-06-02 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, To delete all music from your iPhone, make sure iTunes Match is turned off on the iPhone, then in iTunes on your Mac, make sure that Sync Music is not checked in the Music pane. Apply your changes and all music should be removed. Sometimes, my favourite word in computer-land creeps up

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
That's how I've always done it. No searching the message for the in-line attachment, you just use cmd-y to preview it and File Save Attachments to save. I set up a shortcut key so I can save attachments with one keystroke, making it even easier. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello! What workflow do you use to create the shortcut? Did you create an automated service? If you could share it, it would be great! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 02/06/2014, a las 18:09, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com escribió: That's how I've always done it. No searching

WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/ Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
Nothing so complex, you can set it in System Preferences Keyboard Shortcuts Application Shortcuts. I wrote a guide on this process on applevis.com, but I don't have the link at the moment. On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! What workflow do you use

Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Jessica D
Can I use the Podcasts app to view it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

2014-06-02 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hey all, where did the option to tell voiceover to speak at log on go in system prefs? I can't find it. Thanks. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2014-06-02 Thread Matt Dierckens
Just testing to make sure this works. Gmail was giving me erros. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from

Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
You can download the free WWDC app. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8 There used to be an Apple Keynotes podcast. I'm not sure if that still exists. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Jun 2,

Re: Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
It's in Users and Groups, users, groups and login options list. Interact with that and go all the way down to login options. Stop interacting and the use Voiceover checkbox is in that dialog. htH, teresa. Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Matt Dierckens

Re: Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

2014-06-02 Thread isaac
It is still in system preferences. Just go to system preferences. Go to users and groups. Next go to click the lock to make changes and type in you're password. Next after entering the password and pressing enter to unlock the options to enable auto login and to start voiceover at log on. Now

Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Jessica
i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not shown up yet though. Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: You can download the free WWDC app. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8 There used to be an Apple Keynotes

Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
Just open this link in Safari: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/ On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not shown up yet though. Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com

Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Jane
Here's the strean: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/ On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not shown up yet though. Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

2014-06-02 Thread Nancy Badger
Thanks everyone. I ended up interacting with the attachment and then using the vo shift menu. Using command why for some reason did not work for me. But the other way did so thank you very much Nancy Nancy Badger, Ph.D Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my

Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

2014-06-02 Thread Jessica D
Will it ever show up? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the strean: http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/ On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not

keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released? just fineshed watching keynote and he never said Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that effect. HtH, Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we gather in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread isaac
They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all iPad minis and iPod Touch

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
They won't. That will be made available when ready. This is usual for WWDC as it's targeted at the mainstream audience. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 02/06/2014 20:37, isaac wrote: They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all.

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
what is the public beta page? I am signed up as a public beta tester a while back when they first opened it up for maverick On 6/2/2014 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
I wasn't aware there was a public beta test for mavericks. the page is here: https://appleseed.apple.com/betaprogram/ You may only have to sign in with your Apple ID. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

Re: WWDC keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
One more note: they haven't released any software yet. The first million applicants will be accepted. I am a little worried, because I still haven't seen any system requirements. Not sure if my old machine is up to it, but I'll find out. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it

Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are

Brailliant 40 not pairing

2014-06-02 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi all. My student is trying to connect his Brailliant 40 to his mac with bluetooth, and we get a pairing request failed. Strange thing is, it doesn't bring up a pairing request dialog for him to enter anything. what should he do? The display, naturally works with USB. He's running with the

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Jessica D
This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Jessica
I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason. Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :)

Apple Mail and Gmail

2014-06-02 Thread Bill Holton
Hi. Can anyone offer suggestions how to improve the Mail performance with Gmail. As it is, i have messages trailing in up to an hour after they appear on my phone. Failing that, is there an accessible Mail replacement I should try? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks. Jessia, what is your Mac model? Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Guess it will finally be time to upgrade my poor old iPhone 4. At least I have until fall to save up. CB On 6/2/14, 3:35 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
No, but they did mention the ability to add different keyboards so that should be a boon for those who like to type different. In particular, it sounds like the Flesky folks should be able to just provide a keyboard plugin without requiring specific support to be compiled into every app. CB

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Devin Prater
Oh, so OS X 10.10 will be public beta? On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:22, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. The public beta page is swamped

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Devin Prater
I'm glad my iPod five supported. On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:35, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we gather in the fall to

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Devin Prater
And? They rarely give voice over improvement text in the what's new section of iOS updates. On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:37, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:35 PM,

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Devin Prater
Going to be amazing! Fleksy in braille and all the others will be supported. On Jun 2, 2014, at 16:40, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: No, but they did mention the ability to add different keyboards so that should be a boon for those who like to

Itunes Help needed

2014-06-02 Thread Lee Jones
Dear List, I copied an mp3 album folder into the music section of the itunes media folder, but when I select music from the pop up in itunes itself it does not show up. The only tracks that show up are those that I played with itunes from finder. Itunes shows lots of past played files

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Jessica D
Late 2013 I think Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks. Jessia, what is your Mac model? “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx On

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
You should be ok, as you have a later model. There are models listed from 2008. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: Late 2013 I think Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
will a 2012 mac mini model support this new os when it comes out? On 6/2/2014 2:58 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: You should be ok, as you have a later model. There are models listed from 2008. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com Facebook

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Matt Dierckens
Guys, if it says model name and newer, I'm assuming that yes, it will be supported. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: will

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On

Re: keynote question

2014-06-02 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
they mentioned it in the keynote, there going to be providing several public beta's threw out the summer Hank On 6/2/2014 2:46 PM, Devin Prater wrote: Oh, so OS X 10.10 will be public beta? On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:22, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Well, the way I figure it, when using an off-the-shelf product, you take your chances with accessibility. I signed up for the public beta. if it doesn't work out, I know from trial and error how to erase my drive and revert to an earlier OS. It should be a piece of cake compared to some of the

Re: iTunes cannot import CDs

2014-06-02 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Thanks Kevin, I will try that. Kristeen On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote: hi Kristeen, Set iTunes and Finder to do nothing and try manually importing by VO-Shift-M in the track list and choosing Create AAC Version. If you're still getting 3k file names,

Having problems with re-joining the list

2014-06-02 Thread Agent086b
Hi, I am trying to find out if I have re-joined the list. No need to reply as I should see this message. I have not received any mail today. Sorry for having to do this. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from

Google help please

2014-06-02 Thread Agent086b
Hi all, I am hoping somebody has a good knowledge of Google Groups. I am subscribed to this list but I am not receiving messages to this address. My messages are going to my gMail account instead. Where in Google Groups can I change the address where my messages go to? Thanks for any help I am

Re: iTunes cannot import CDs

2014-06-02 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Kevin and anyone else, When I do this manually, it creates an .m4a file that is 94K in size. I did this for the whole album. It created 12 songs and they were all 94K and will not play. Any other advice? What could be wrong with the configuration? Is it helpful to delete the plst file? Thanks.

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new

escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

2014-06-02 Thread Scott Erichsen
Hi all, I have a really strange problem with a macbook air running Mavericks. The escape key is working under VMWare fusion on Windows 7 64bit, but will not work on OSX at all. I can't get out of menues, or use the escape key in any way. It's as if it's broken and just does nothing.

Re: Google help please

2014-06-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
hi, max, Go to this urL: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries and make sure you're signed into your account. VO-space on My Settings. Press the down-arrow key to go through the menu and find 'my membership and email settings for this group and press return. If the address you want to

Re: Google help please

2014-06-02 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Max, First make sure that you've logged into Google on the Net with your BigPond.com account, either in Safari or Chrome. Next, go to the link http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries which is also located at the bottom of messages posted to this list on the Visit this Group line.

Re: Google help please

2014-06-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I checked and your account was added to the mailing list at 6PM EST with your bigpond email address and is set to receive all emails. Does gmail do some kind of funky email forwarding? Everything seems correct from this end. CB On 6/2/14, 10:21 PM, Agent086b wrote: Hi all, I am hoping

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which

Re: Google help please

2014-06-02 Thread Agent086b
Thanks Chris for all your help Thanks also to the others for pointers how to change where GoogleGroups sends my messages. All is working well now. Max On 3 Jun 2014, at 1:53 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: I checked and your account was added to

Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all

How to go for a holiday and stop mail

2014-06-02 Thread Agent086b
Hello, I am going away in July August for a mother holiday. So I don't have the same problems re-joining the 2 google lists I am a member of. How do I set a vacation mode? Groups that use the Mailman program there is an easy way to go nomail. Sorry for all this traffic. Max -- You received

Re: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

2014-06-02 Thread CJ Daniel
Scott, Under Mavericks, the escape key's functionality changed. You can press Option-Escape key to actuate a standard escape key function. Also, VO has a general escape key, when VO-Escape key is pressed. However, the VO sequence doesn't always work for me, while the Option-Escape key,

RE: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

2014-06-02 Thread Scott Erichsen
Unfortunately that makes no sense and One air works fine while the other doesn't. Is there any settings I can try without reinstalling? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ Daniel Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 2:23 PM To:

solved! RE: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

2014-06-02 Thread Scott Erichsen
Hi all, This problem is now solved. Just for info, The mac that had the problems wasn't mine but someone had enabled speakable items and that made the escape key useless. If you set the speakable items to off/disabled, the escape key works as expected. Thanks. Scott From: