ipod nano

2009-09-22 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Went out for lunch and got myself a nano. This is after having heard about it through the threads in this group, so i guess will start playing around with it after work :) Is there anything i shouldn't do, or perhaps something important i should? The actual thing i wonder

nano micro-management

2009-09-22 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Just took the nano out of its box, and i'm worried for a lot of things that might happen to it. It scratches against my keys, it slips through my big hands, it flies through the room when i take the earbuds out, and a lot of other unexpecteds. Does anyone else feel like i

32 bit versus 64 bit

2009-09-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I was wondering if any of you felt any change when booting SL with 64 bit. I can feel a slight increase in performance with sl in default mode, and strangely, voice over gets better and better as i use the computer, in terms of lag after hitting a key. go figure why. I wanted

Re: Applescript Editor help

2009-09-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi James, You can go to the following for a full guide on applescripting http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/AppleScript/Conceptual/AppleScriptLangGuide/introduction/ASLR_intro.html If you want to dabble a bit on some scripting with a tutorial starting from the basics:

double speaking in syrinx

2009-09-14 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi guys, Someone has posted about double speaking in syrinx, but i didn't have snow leopard at that time and thought it was for both old and new platforms. Can someone orient me to the right paremeter to get rid of that? Thanks, and best Yuma

Re: How can I turn that frustrating trackpad of.

2009-09-14 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi, just press control and make a counter clockwise rotation with your thumb and index. if you want to turn it back on, do the opposite. best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries

trackpad commander testout and comments

2009-09-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Mackers andslackers, I just installed Snow leopard through an upgrade process, and i have to say it was quick and easy. When getting into SL, nothing was bugging in terms of old apps. or maybe all the apps i use are compatible. I do have a problem when writing mails, as in not all the

Re: Voice Over and Arabic?

2009-09-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi, There is an infovox ivox arabic language voice pack in theworks. The developer has recently asked for beta testers, but i guess youwouldn't beable to do it since, i aussme, you do not own a mac yet. Or do you Here is the link anyway to the third party voice developer. They give you a

Idea for functionality

2009-09-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Just been playing around with the gesture commander. I meant the multitrack commander. No, wait, trackpad commander :) The rotor stuff is very sensitive, as the default command rotate actions are to turn the volume down. To keep it in the audio context, anyone say track

mail and reading messages

2009-09-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, There's a few changes in Snow Leopard, and i've sort of gotten all the custom verbosity i want. Fun stuff. I wanted to know though, is the inability to automatically read new messages through the VO J command due to one unchecking the automatically read webpage when loaded

multitrackpad gesture correction

2009-09-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hey everyone, Scratch the bug about the vo going all overthe place. I found out that i inadvertently switched the quick menu on. As a matter of fact, besides reading and the web, i see less of a use with it, or less potential than all that multitrack experience i'm going through. some

leopard security update 5 out

2009-09-11 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Yep, for those still lagging behind :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications

2009-09-11 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Les, To access your applications folder, press command shift A, then go down to text edit, then open it. To place it in the dock, press VO D as in control option D, then find the open text edit icon. once there, just press the down arrow and a contextual menu will come up, from which

Re: purchased book from itunes

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Anna, I meant that i purchased an e-book from itunes. I do have the audio book list in the source table, but not the book or e-book list. Is there a path that i have to go to in my harddisk to retrieve that file? Thanks, and best Yuma

Re: purchased book from itunes

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi ester, Well it's a normal e-book which cost me around 4 euros. It's an o'reilly media book. It doesn't come with audio or anything else, and i heard the downloaded chime but can't find it anywhere. Can you tell me where the folder for all itunes downloads is located on the startup

Re: purchased book from itunes

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi ester, Thanks so much for taking your time to explain how things work, all devices included. Yes, i do have an iphone. I have checked in my applications list and i found it though i don't know how it works yet. I did think that e-books were going to be standard pdfs to be read by any

resuming a read on preview

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi ester, You seem to be the ultimate doyen of preview manipulations so i will ask this to you :) I might have asked this aready but i'm not sure, or i'm cramming too much in a little time, or even worse, my coffee is laced with some memory erasing properties. I usually switch a lot from

Re: filezilla

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi, Filezilla is very unaccesible as you have to guess work through ramifications of interactions to get from one table to the other. I don't suggest this one to anyone. Transmit is ok for now, but there are issues as regard to file management from local to remote and vice versa. And when

Re: filezilla

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi, Have you tried the click solution by routing the mouse cursor to the vo cursor? I suspect it might actually dodownload/upload but it's worth trying. Strange that it's not somewhere. maybe there's also a move to directory somewhere in which case the path has to be typed manually.

Re: filezilla

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Anna, I believe its vo command shift F3. There is a way to navigate though, you go to your menu bar then to go, which is a transmit menu option then you look inside where the various folders of your root are. There is a delimitor between your stuff and their stuff so each should update

filezilla

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Forget the comment about the crash. It just froze for a bit. There is a combo box from which you can also choose, but on mine there's only the path to my root folder for now. Probably populates itself as you go into the subfolders through the aforementioned way. best Yuma

Re: resuming a read on preview

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Ester, I tried CTRL and a number from zero to nine, but it doesn't do anything best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Correction on how to set hotspots [was Re: resuming a read on preview]

2009-09-10 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Yay! Thanks ester for the correction :) Gonna catch up with some serious reading best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

returning to the last read sentence in preview

2009-09-09 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all, I was wondering why when i switch applications from preview and back the page i was reading starts from the beginning. Instead of hotspots, is there a way to leave the mouse cursor on the ast word which was read in preview and then when back to reading, get the mouse cursor to

itunes 9 available

2009-09-09 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Just downloading it now, after an update of the quicktime player. Can't wait to see if the app order application is accessible :) best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To

purchased book from itunes

2009-09-09 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I can't find the book i purchasedfrom itunes in the sources table. And there is no checkbox in the prefs. Even on the new itunes i can't find it. I really like the new menu on the itunes store though :) Oh, before i digressed: does anyone know where i can find book files?

mobile me account

2009-09-09 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all, I've been trying to register for the free trial to mobile me, and went to fill in my billing info, but when i press on the unlabelled button, i keep getting back to the same page. I've noticed thatthere is no radio button or anything to say that i agree to terms of service,

Re: voice over menu script

2009-09-09 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi John, I thought voiceover utility couldn't be openend directly from the tell command as it wasn't in the suites in the library...lol Well, that does clear it up, got much more to read :) Best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because

testing my applescript

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Unfortunate the man, but fortunate is the artist torn by desire. -- Charles Baudelaire --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

testing my applescript

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Unfortunate the man, but fortunate is the artist torn by desire. -- Charles Baudelaire --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

dictionary in applescript

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi guys, I've made my first applescript which has taken me a while to do for the simple fact that there is a structure to be obeyed down to the new line command, but i think i got the gist :) Now i want to delve into the automatic language switcher. But i looked into the script

voice over menu script

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, After reading quite a few things and testing out for myself, i've gotten to understand certain basics. I wrote this little piece of code to open up the voice over utility tell application Finder open application VoiceOver Utility end tell the script returns no error, the

project halted

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Just realized that i can't continue with my endeavor as i need SL to get the appropriate library suite for voice over. I was getting fired up though, such a shame. Hopefully tomorrow i will get the news that SL is in stock over at my random apple shop :) best Yuma

ordering messages

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Everyone Can someone tell me how i can reverse the order of messages? i have the sort by date received but i want the last received message to be at the top of the list instead of the bottom. another nubie question i guess...shame on me best Yuma

Re: ordering messages

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Jonathan, and CHristina I had hidden the date received column. Perhaps that had something to do with it. But it works now. Thanks you veily much best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: ordering messages

2009-09-08 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi, I've also got a macbook. Right under the backspace is the | key but it just goes ping, as in you're going nowhere :) VO shift | right? best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries

Re: Skype and Voice Over.

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I'm adding in to this thread as it is related. I have previously asked about this issue but haven't resolved it yet. When it comes to conversing (chatting) with someone on skype, i know how to go to the mainframe, interact with it, and look at the conversation. Adding text is

Re: mail

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
I have a folder called macvisionaries where the rule is that all mails from macvisionaries@googlegroups.com go into. So i don't get why william's and william's only mails end up in my general mailbox. No one else's ends up there best Yuma

snow leopard and box set

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I am considering the purchase of the macbox set with ilife and iwork, as well as getting some more ram for my macbook pro. So ilife includes garage band, ichat and some other apps, but are they all VO compatible? It's still a 180 dollar investment so i wanted to make sure that

Re: mail

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Jonathan, The rule is set to contains macvisionaries@googlegroups.com I have doublechecked to see if there were any other rules that might have been hapazadardously included, but none. I also saw that the last mail from william hasn't ended up in my main mailbox but only in the mac

Fwd: media event

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Ok, so it has happened again. i really don't get it. Begin forwarded message: From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com Date: September 7, 2009 10:53:37 PM GMT+07:00 To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind disc...@macvisionaries.com

Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Scripts are usually an extension to a given program, those of whom want to customize their own experience further. It's part of the tools that people use to make their lives easier, and more efficient when encountering redundancy or other such issues. I think that Apple is well aware of

applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I was just hacing a milkshake and thought of a possible script to help polyglotts in this list? I believe this should be possible, bbut since i am not acquainted enough with applescript, please those of you who know some or are veterans, give me some pointers :) Basically, i

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Anne, I tried it and it only gives me rate, intonation, pitch and volume. control option command and left or right arrow, right? Hmm, i had my apple script editor up and took a shower to delve into this. Thought it would be a good idea for a first apple script :) Thanks though, if i can

Re: applescript idea

2009-09-07 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi John, Thanks for some insight on this :) I've decided to start with something a bit simpler and work from there. i want to start something like this: variable=language Language=voice type in voice over menu variable=french french=margaux infovox ivox hq tell voice over open tab voices if

boycott from the WWF

2009-09-06 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, It's been a week since i was supposed to get snow leopard, but a lot of sighted people have gone ahead of me, and emptied the stcoks of the OS from practically all the shops in my city. They do have the macbox set but i'll have to wait again for the next stock of standalone

Re: dropbox again

2009-09-05 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hey William, It seems as though all of your messages from the list actually end up in my personal inbox insted of the macvisionaries group i've creat.ed. Can you check to make sure you're not directly sending mesgs to me? Thanks. and enjoy your sunday Yuma

Re: itunes and past podcast downloading

2009-09-05 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi Anna, I guess i had to interact more within a podcast to get the contextual menu up. All credits to you, thanks! :) Best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to

programing lists

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Ok, i know this is not really relevant to this list, vut i know some of you are way more apt to answer this than the searches i've made. I've been looking into programming for a fair bit now, getting all the pertinent documents, and i do have quite some knowledge and logic about syntaxes

opening new safari window

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Is there a way to open a new window browser by clicking on a link? like a context menu? THanks, and best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group,

Re: opening new safari window

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Thanks, i'll try that. to route the mouse cursor to the vo cursor it's VO command F5 right? Thanks Best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: opening new safari window

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi guys, So shift acts a bit like a secondary command list. That's good to know :) I have looked at a list of keyboard shortcuts, but they vary from context to context, or so it tends to make me believe. Thanks a lot for the info though, one more for the mac bbest Yuma

Re: opening new safari window

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi guys, That works like a charm Thanks a lot! best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe

Re: opening new safari window

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi ester, I do think opening new windows might be better. Perhaps with snow leopard it's fixed as i think they have the individual threads for each tabs, but i'm still on leopard right now. Soon though :) Also, it might be easier to just command accent for jumping from window to window,

itunes and past podcast downloading

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I've been downloading some podcasts through itunes, and though i am able to get the latest or current podcasts, i would also like to get some of the older ones. The thing is, once i've downloaded the podcast, there is a grid view of the podcast and when entering it gives me a

Re: itunes and past podcast downloading

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
OK, so this means that the context menu is rather important, as it is more options available after checking the menu bar. That's really good to know :) Thanks a lot best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: itunes and past podcast downloading

2009-09-03 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
uhm.. I've gone to the title i want downloaded, and pressed vo shift m but i get a pong tune, no context menu. When you say set focus on the song, does it mean i have to place the mouse on it? My voice over settings is so that the mouse cursor follows the vo cursor and vice versa. Doesn't

Re: Another List? was: Re: apple script and vo

2009-09-02 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
THank you so much for this amazing piece of informative excerpts. I'm trying to collect it all and put it in a to keep folder. It's growing fast, but so are my reflexes when doing things with my mac:) Love this os --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

multi-track pad, blowout

2009-09-01 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone stumbled upon someone somewhere on the cloud who might present a multi-track pad the size of a monitor? I'm saying, because those of us who have a recent macbook can enjoy the track miulti feature with sl, but it sort of cringes in size and real

tactile iphone

2009-09-01 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Yes, but it comes with a hefty price tag. What i'm talking about is convergence, and we're certainly heading that way. Various groups are vying for such technologies, from the military to private laboratories, and the release of more of these devices will bring manufacturing costs down,

just dropping this for good measure

2009-09-01 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all, Here is the page to the new jaws 11 public beta: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-public-beta.asp#Features I find it to have a lot of quote unquote features which tell you that such and such command has change to another set of commands, equally complicated. A

Re: eBay to sell skype to private investors

2009-09-01 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Skype has engrossed over 500 million this year as compared to the 7 million 3 years ago. That's a huge indicator of the company's health and there is no reason it would shut down. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

toolbar button?

2009-08-30 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, a flurry of noob questions for productivity: -whenever i stumble on a toolbar button, i don't seem to be able to do anything to it. Is it normal, or is there a command to individually open the toolbar button instead of vo space? Thanks again, and again...

Re: quickly junping from page to page in preview

2009-08-30 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Thanks James, It is one of these obvious ones again, gotta get the hang of it :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: toolbar button?

2009-08-30 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Cool, thanks for the pointer :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

Re: Preview navigation and Adobe Reader with VoiceOver [was Re: quickly junping from page to page in preview]

2009-08-30 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
That was a mouthful esther, :) Thanks a whole lot, now i think there will be no more questioning this issue Best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send

Re: Preview navigation and Adobe Reader with VoiceOver [was Re: quickly junping from page to page in preview]

2009-08-30 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
it's native to the mac OS. And actually much better than acrobat reader. Best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

the kitty is about to pounce

2009-08-28 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I haven't been able to preorder snow leopard and receive it in time as i live in asia, but from what the closest apple store told me, it will arrive next wednesday. I'mm pretty excited after having read the maccessibility review, and really look forward to getting it. I just

accessible download manager.accelerator

2009-08-27 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I have been looking for some download managers but so far got some inaccessible ones to place in the trash though i'm sure they are good for sighted people. Can anyone tell me of one which is easy to use and streamlined with the browser downloads if be? best

tactile iphone

2009-08-27 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Here's an interesting read, and how lots of other applications can have a touchy feely twist to them. All the better for the visually impaired. Until the eye comes out that is http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-08/iphones-blind best

iphone sdk documentation

2009-08-25 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I've taken the plunge into the sdk to attempt creating a first minute app, then as i get more acquainted with the framework, look into deeper features. I was wondering if anyone in this group has also been looking into this? I would be glad to exchange information with you

infovox and breathing

2009-08-25 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
As i justpurcgased the infovox ivox french voices, and from the past threads on this, i was wondering if the new ivox 2.0 will have breathing patterns like alex does in english. I don't know how hard it would be to standardize this but i find it much more comfortable to read through long

acrobat reader accessible on mac?

2009-08-24 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all, Is the acrobat reader accessible for reading pdfs? Or do i have to revert to preview for those documents? Thanks, and best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to

skype and the chat frame

2009-08-24 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I've been using skype on the mac for about a month now, and everything is accessible, or the key paths have been memorized. I have a problem though while chatting. The chat frame doesn't refresh, and i have to close the chat window and reopen it again from the contact list to

purchased the infovox ivox

2009-08-20 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I have purchased the french voice pack from acapella. 4 voices including the us heather voice. Thanks everyone for the suggestions and opinions about this product. It helped motivate my purchase. Couldn't continue jacking my neck around to try to understand written mails in

acrobat reader

2009-08-17 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I'm having a bit of trouble opening a pdf file with acrobat reader. I used to open the documents in preview but since my apple shop installed acrobat on my system, i decided to use it and put it as the default reader for pdf documents. Now that i vo into it i only get a

application installation and uninstallations

2009-08-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I've been digging a bit more into managing my files on the mac, and i've stumbled across a couple of mysteries regarding file management. First, i wanted to know what the procedure is when downloading an application dmg such as skype, where it goes, how to make it appear in

google chromium

2009-08-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, received a tweet about the chrome beta for release 4 is out for some sandboxing. I tried chrome on pc and it was totally inaccessible, but i was wondering if anyone has tinkered with it on the mac, and if some conclusive results were realized? It's always good to have two

Re: application installation and uninstallations

2009-08-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi there, Thanks a zill for this piece of info. You just gave me another nifty trick to increase customizability of my mac :) Thanks again best --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries

Re: snowleopard?

2009-08-15 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi, Thanks for that tidbit. I wonder if we have to pay extra as i am still on the trial version. That guy seemed very short and concise or cold and offhandish, but the news is on. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

some mail question from n00b who wants to be prolific

2009-08-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, I've still been having my mac for only a month. yes, the switch is most welcome and agreeable to my needs. And i have a question about the mail app which has been probably answered a thousand times but since the googlegroups mails aren't retroactive (oh my, how it would

google mail synching

2009-08-12 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi everyone, Sorry for perhaps digging up archive questions, i'm trying to follow all thethreads and learn on them but sometimes i do loose the thread, pun intended. I have a question about synching the mail app with google so that when i delete messages from mail it also does so in the

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