Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-29 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Steve, That would be my experience and usage pattern as well. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-28 Thread Steve Holmes
In general, I have had good results with Quick Nav. I have only used it with HTML areas. It doesn't make much sense to use it elsewhere particularly when arrow keys are pressed in a list or table like the message list in Mail or a twitter timeline, etc. I have also discovered Quick Nav turning

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-21 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
yes, Quick Nav has physically disabled when I have entered certain edit fields when using Safari. I know this as when I press the right arrow to jump to the next item nothing happens. I press left and right together and Voice Over says, Quick Nav On… The thing was, Quick Nav was on in the

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-20 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Brian, I use Quick nav extensively myself, I have had no such issues at all with ML and Quick Nav. The only thing I have noticed is that Quick Nav seems to auto disable when you enter certain edit fields on web-sites. But, not all of them. which is a little confusing. Certainly though it

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-20 Thread Brian Fischler
You are lucky that quick nav works fine for you as I use it all the time as it is nice not to have to use two hands all the time and press the VO keys, and considering that quick nav worked just fine in Lion it is quite frustrating that quick nav has a mind of its own in Lion. Like I said I got

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-20 Thread Jürgen Fleger
What you discribed happens with VoiceOver in iOS but never in Mountain Lion on a Mac. At least not on my two Macs with Mac OS X 10.8.2. Quick Nav doesn't disable itself in a text edit field on a Mac. Were you really talking about VO on your Mac? Am 20.12.2012 um 12:43 schrieb Neil Barnfather -

Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-19 Thread Brian Fischler
This is a problem I have had for quite awhile and I had held off on mentioning it, as I had hoped for a fix from Apple, but seeing that Apple rarely makes any improvements to accessibility with their updates, I wanted to mention it to the group and see if anyone else came up with a solution. I

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-19 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Same issues here and others more. Sometimes I'm not able to switch off Quick Nav at all. As always: please report your observations to accessibil...@apple.com and let's hope Apple will increase the efforts for VoiceOver on the Mac. For me personally Mountain Lion was a step forward because of

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-19 Thread Brian Fischler
I couldn't agree with you more. While I do enjoy the Facebook integration in Mountain Lion, I feel there have been several steps backwards with Voiceover performance. I do not need dictation on my mac as I type so much faster than I dictate and dictation gets so much more wrong than my typing.

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-19 Thread Harry Hogue
Brian and others, I find that in many cases QuickNav is less helpful than it is helpful. It is convenient on websites, but other than that I do not use it. In Pages it is best not to use it, for expanding and collapsing message threads in Mail it is better if you don't use it, etc. It is

Re: Quick Nav problems with Mountain Lion

2012-12-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I agree. for me, quick nav is just used in Safari, for 1 letter navigation. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote: Brian and others, I find that in many cases