Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-30 Thread Keith Watson
No, speakup is in the debian repository. I use a stock kernel and just install the modules. Works great. I haven't cooked a kernel in a few years. Keith On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Ryan Mann wrote: Did you have to recompile the kernel to install Speakup? For some reason, I thought that

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-29 Thread Jude DaShiell
Even easier, use script. First run script typescript.tmp enter. Next run your job. Next type exit enter. Next type col -bx typescript.tmp typescript enter next type rm typescript.tmp enter finally type less typescript enter and find out what happened in your job. I usually just interact

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-29 Thread Esther
Hi Josh, Dave, Karen, Scott, and Others, If you want a good place to start learning about using the terminal and types of commands that you might issue from Terminal, I'd recommend Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal by Joe Kissell:

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-29 Thread Ryan Mann
Did you have to recompile the kernel to install Speakup? For some reason, I thought that Speakup wasn't available as Debian packages. On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Actually I just googled debian vmware and appliance. I can't remember the name of the image, but that should

RE: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-28 Thread Dave Taylor
I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a good place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need it, but would certainly like to know just in case. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

RE: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
excuse my nose here, but in theory would that let you say tellnet to a site or service that itself is shell associated? sorry if I am over guessing what one might do with that sort of bash. still I would think you could run programs that way? Karen On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Dave Taylor wrote: I

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-28 Thread Scott Granados
Yes, you have telnet, ssh, ftp and all the standard clients you'd expect. I'm sure you could enable daemons to accept connections as well although consider the security implications of doing that please.:) On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: excuse my nose here, but in theory

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-28 Thread Keith Watson
All well and good to have these tools available on the MAC. The only problem is that VO access to the terminal is cumbersome at best. My solution to this is to run a Debian VM and use speakup. Much better access to it's term there, and if I need to do anything on my MAC i just ssh over and take

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Linux does have Unix origins, and the Mac shell is Unix. It's also the Bash shell, (Born Aag SHell). It's possible to do various kinds of scripting on it, but I haven't investigated that yet. Teresa On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: Hi Over the past few weeks I have been

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
Just to clerify this a little, Mac is BSD based and Linux is of course System V. So there are some pretty important differences. Anyone familiar with both flavors though would feel at home. You also have pythan and perl installed I believe with the mack. - Original Message -

Re: the unix shell and mac terminal

2010-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
, 2010 3:38 PM Subject: Re: the unix shell and mac terminal Linux does have Unix origins, and the Mac shell is Unix. It's also the Bash shell, (Born Aag SHell). It's possible to do various kinds of scripting on it, but I haven't investigated that yet. Teresa On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Josh