Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

2022-04-04 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, However, it is sometimes helpful to know what the visual symbols or cues are so that if a sighted person you know asks for help you can translate things into that which they would interact with and understand. I find knowing such helpful and intriguing in that context. Take good care.

Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

2022-04-04 Thread Herbie Allen
This is why I am a believer in teaching VO separat from visuals. This way, you learn how VO interprets things and you don’t have to worry about differences. > On Apr 4, 2022, at 14:45, Steve Matzura wrote: > > My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out > something

Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

2022-04-04 Thread Jeff Berwick
When programming, coders usually have access to the accessible text for the menu items. At least, when I programmed in DotNet for Windows they did. I expect it is the same or similar on Mac. So, you would put in the text that you wish to show, select the different key combinations for any

Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

2022-04-04 Thread Steve Matzura
Thanks. Maybe that's what my wife meant by a wavy line. But wait! That's not the caret shape. On 4/4/2022 5:03 PM, Yolanda Thompson wrote: Control is like a caret On 4/4/22, Steve Matzura wrote: My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out something interesting

Re: Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

2022-04-04 Thread Yolanda Thompson
Control is like a caret On 4/4/22, Steve Matzura wrote: > My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out > something interesting today. Apparently, VO announces menu access > shortcuts in a different order than the symbols are presented on the > screen. For instance, in

Something very interesting I just learned about menus and VoiceOver

2022-04-04 Thread Steve Matzura
My wife, who uses a Mac without VoiceOver because she can, pointed out something interesting today. Apparently, VO announces menu access shortcuts in a different order than the symbols are presented on the screen. For instance, in Mail, for Forward (on the Message menu) VO says