Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
- From: Anders Holmberg To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:59 AM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? Hi! I use the beta of osX so maybe this is new. But when ever i find a text field or button i don’t get any announcements. Even

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
to, or forwarding? Or, do you mean more a message you're reading? You're not providing quite enough info. Chris. - Original Message - From: Helga Schreiber To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 2:23 AM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
. - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:55 AM Subject: RE: alternative email programs on the mac? What about thunderbird? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa, gotcha. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listse...@me.com> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:47 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
cvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? > > >> how is that with voice over al pine? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
via MacVisionaries" > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? > > >> Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>> I w

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-29 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I use the beta of osX so maybe this is new. But when ever i find a text field or button i don’t get any announcements. Even if speech verbosity is set to medium. /A > On 28 Feb 2016, at 20:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Andrers wrote: > > If Voiceover

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi, this is Helga! A question, does Microsoft Outlook use shortcuts in ordr to ggo to the top of file and bottom and os on? And do you have to interact on tht app as you do in the mail app? Just owndering since I use the Mac mail for my emils!! It will be cool tif I can try something new! I

RE: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
What about thunderbird? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of syc20...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 8:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? One of the alternative mail app

RE: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeff `greene Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 8:04 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? Hi Kevin, I'll have to give that a try! The biggest problem I have with mac mail

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Apple provides a copy of Postfix with OS X configured for a pretty reasonable direct-to-MX setup, and it would be possible to modify this to work with your ISP, to support programs that rely on the command-line submission interface. Alpine would work with that, although I’d prefer to build

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
nal Message - >>> *From:* Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: alternative email programs on the mac? >>> >>> I also

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
lt; > clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > God! I've not even used Chromevox in ages! Is that bear still being >> developed? >> >> Chris. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> >> *To:* macvisionar

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread d . prater
aries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver? On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM &

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
d? > > Chris. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: alternative email programs on the mac? > > I also use C

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread d . prater
day, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver? On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
God! I've not even used Chromevox in ages! Is that bear still being developed? Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Chao To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:42 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? I also use

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
16 2:35 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? how is that with voice over al pine? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
- From: d.pra...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:15 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? Yeah, but you have to pay for it don't you? Sent from Outlook Mobile. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Sun, Feb 28, 2016

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere. Sent from my

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Nor can I recall ever seeing text fields not being announced as said before. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Chao To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 1:55 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? Canary build

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
t: Sunday, February 28, 2016 1:36 PM Subject: Re: alternative email programs on the mac? Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac. You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the packaging systems that offe

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Andrers wrote: If Voiceover would announce text fields and such in chrome it would be even better. I'm not exactly sure I follow. On my end, Voiceover tells me when I hit a text field in Chrome, so I'm not really sure where you're getting that that doesn't work. Chris. -- The following

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
I also use ChromeVox and would recommend re-installing it to solve this wrapping issue. Have you tried with VoiceOver? On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:05 AM wrote: > I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top" > sound. It keeps doing it for however long

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries
how is that with voice over al pine? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread d . prater
Yeah, but you have to pay for it don't you? Sent from Outlook Mobile. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:10 AM -0800, wrote: One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which comes with all the rest of Office

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread syc20099
One of the alternative mail app that I am aware of is Microsoft Outlook which comes with all the rest of Office sweets. It seems like Microsoft is finally focusing on accessibility. I am not quite sure about other apps elsewhere. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Kevin Chao

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread d . prater
I try Chrome a lot, but Chromevox always makes the "wrapping to top" sound. It keeps doing it for however long Chrome is open, so I can't do anything with it except force quit it. Sent from Outlook Mobile. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM -0800, "Kevin Chao"

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread jeff `greene
Hi Kevin, I'll have to give that a try! The biggest problem I have with mac mail is if I try to go back to the first email in the list, and it has a coniption fit of busies. Thanks, Jeff On 2/28/16, Kevin Chao wrote: > Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: >

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
Mac Chrome Canary can be found here: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html?platform=mac On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM Kevin Chao wrote: > Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El > Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
Canary build of Chrome fixed regressions with text fields introduced by El Capitan. I can't recall last time I've seen VoiceOver go busy in Chrome. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries < macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Anders Holmberg

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Anders Holmberg wrote: > I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac. You should be able to compile it or even install it from one of the packaging systems that offers free/open-source software for OS X. > I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! If Voiceover would announce text fields and such in chrome it would be even better. /A > On 28 Feb 2016, at 17:12, Kevin Chao wrote: > > I use gmail.com and inbox.google.com > . The keyboard shortcuts make it really

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I saw it to but never bought it. I don’t think there are much alternatives to the mail app sadly. I wonder if one could compile and use alpine on the mac. I guess its possible but the question is if voiceover will work with that. /A > On 28 Feb 2016, at 16:41, jeff `greene

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Blee Blat
Do you use chrome for everything or just mail? Safari it seems is just as busy here as the mail app is sometimes though I have found keeping mailboxes uncluttered makes it less busy. The same goes for browser history and caches. If I keep the browser history clear and clear out the browser

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
Yes, in Chrome, but all in browser On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:40 AM jeff `greene wrote: > Hi Kevin, So you do all your email on safari? Avoiding mac mail all > together? > Jeff > > On 2/28/16, Kevin Chao wrote: > > I use gmail.com and

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread jeff `greene
Hi Kevin, So you do all your email on safari? Avoiding mac mail all together? Jeff On 2/28/16, Kevin Chao wrote: > I use gmail.com and inbox.google.com. The keyboard shortcuts make it really > efficient and usable. > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 AM jeff `greene

Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread Kevin Chao
I use gmail.com and inbox.google.com. The keyboard shortcuts make it really efficient and usable. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:41 AM jeff `greene wrote: > Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer > so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the

alternative email programs on the mac?

2016-02-28 Thread jeff `greene
Hi, I've asked this question twice from my mac but never got an answer so I'm not sure if mac mail actually sent the message. Well anyway... I'm getting really tired of mail.app on the mac. I often get busy messages or messages that an email can't be sent. I'm wondering if anybody has used other