navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Angie Giltinan
Good morning all, Angie here, I just got my new beautiful mac book air on friday, I was, and still am a JAWS user, so the mac is so different, now to my question. How in the world does one navigate tables with VO? What I want to be able to do is move from cell to cell, up down, left and right,

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Ryan Mann
Hello. You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column. You use Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move to the previous and next row. To put it another way, you use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move left or right and Control+Option+Up or Down Arrow to move up or down.

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Angie Giltinan
Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to put it in first to do this table navigation? I'm on a web site when I want to navigate these tables. Thanks! On 7/19/11, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. You use Control+Option+Left or Right Arrow to move by column.

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Kevin Mattingly
If you want to read the full row, you should be able to hit control-option-r and it should be read. This is the one area that I feel VO lacks a little in on web pages. Kev On Jul 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote: Ok, I tried that, but it didn't work, is there some kind of mode to

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi ANgie, Can you clarify a bit what is going on? What did VO say when this didn't work for you? Table navigation has always worked flawlessly for me, both on the web and in the OS in general. Best, Zack. On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote: Ok, I tried that, but it didn't

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Kevin Mattingly wrote: If you want to read the full row, you should be able to hit control-option-r and it should be read. This is the one area that I feel VO lacks a little in on web pages. There are apparently improvements to VoiceOver regarding web pages in Lion. I

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, two questions: Is there a way regardless the row in the table that I'm on, to read the column header? Say I had a table with two columns. City and state. Now, say I was on the second row in that table and was on Charlotte. Could I while on that second row hit something to see the

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, When in a table, investigate single and double presses of vo-c and vo-r. Those will read you the sorts of information you're requesting, I think. THe only really clever things I can think of involving tables are for tables in OS X in general. You can use vo-cmd-backslash to move to

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi all! Well in the vo commands help menu! Under tables! There are options to read different things! VO+c+c will read the column! VO+shift+t will read column and row numbers! And there are others, if you want to you can assign each one to one of the commanders either numpad,keyboard or even the

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Angie Giltinan
Ok, I got it to work, now here's another question, is there a way to read web pages line by line, like with JAWS in windows? sorry to keep compairing things, it's just the only way I know to explain what I want. Thanks loads! On 7/19/11, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: Hi all!

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Let me expand on your comment with Mail. Right now, it's putting my most recent messages at the bottom of my mail list table. If I want that reversed so that the most recent e-mails are at the top, then, how do I do that? Chris. On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Chris,

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, In that case, move over to the date received column and press vo-vertical bar one time. It should say sort down, Date, and you will magically find your messages sorted in reverse chronological order. Repeat this to reverse the sort. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:56

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Angie! Well that is one of things you'll have to see which way you would prefer! You can just use vo+down arrow for the next line or up for the previous! But with quick nav [ to start quicknav press the left and right arrows down at the same time! vo will say quick nav on or off ] Then all

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Correction, Vo+L reads the current line. Vo+S reaeds the current sentence. Chris. - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:16 PM Subject: Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac

2011-07-19 Thread Red.Falcon
. - Original Message - From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:16 PM Subject: Re: navigating tables on the web with my new mac Hi Angie! Well that is one of things you'll have to see which way you would prefer! You