Re: Correction, How to get rid of traces of software using Mac Book Air with latest OS?

[Joseph Hudson]

Sharon, first of all you might want to come down secondly, if you delete an 
app, and it's in the trash folder, go to the trash folder, and empty the trash. 
Then went to empty the trash, then you can read install it and download it 
fresh. And you're not stupid. Trust me.
> On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
> 
> Oops, I forgot to mention my mac info.  I put it in the subject line, and 
> here is the message again:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded an app, a download manager, to be specific.  For some reason I 
> decided to trash it.  Then download it again as a fresh start, but I   still 
> found traces from the first instance.  I’ve tried scrapping and downloading 
> it from the internet again and again, but I   found more and more traces and 
> stuff I can’t seem to delete.  So, how do I get rid of the whole chi bang?  
> Believe me, once I clear up this mess, I want to download it one more time 
> and give it a good chance before deciding what to do with it.  I would really 
> appreciate some help here.
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> Stupid, Frustrated Me,
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Correction, How to get rid of traces of software using Mac Book Air with latest OS?

[Sharon Hooley]

Oops, I forgot to mention my mac info.  I put it in the subject line, and here 
is the message again:

Hi,

I downloaded an app, a download manager, to be specific.  For some reason I 
decided to trash it.  Then download it again as a fresh start, but I   still 
found traces from the first instance.  I’ve tried scrapping and downloading it 
from the internet again and again, but I   found more and more traces and stuff 
I can’t seem to delete.  So, how do I get rid of the whole chi bang?  Believe 
me, once I clear up this mess, I want to download it one more time and give it 
a good chance before deciding what to do with it.  I would really appreciate 
some help here.

Thanks much,

Stupid, Frustrated Me,

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Re: to get rid of traces of apps?

[E.T.]

   For the Mac? Do you have Clean My Mac 3? It will delete everything 
that goes with an app.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 7/17/2017 6:41 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:

Hi,

I downloaded an app, a download manager, to be specific.  For some reason I 
decided to trash it.  Then download it again as a fresh start, but I   still 
found traces from the first instance.  I’ve tried scrapping and downloading it 
from the internet again and again, but I   found more and more traces and stuff 
I can’t seem to delete.  So, how do I get rid of the whole chi bang?  Believe 
me, once I clear up this mess, I want to download it one more time and give it 
a good chance before deciding what to do with it.  I would really appreciate 
some help here.

Thanks much,

Stupid, Frustrated Me,



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to get rid of traces of apps?

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi,

I downloaded an app, a download manager, to be specific.  For some reason I 
decided to trash it.  Then download it again as a fresh start, but I   still 
found traces from the first instance.  I’ve tried scrapping and downloading it 
from the internet again and again, but I   found more and more traces and stuff 
I can’t seem to delete.  So, how do I get rid of the whole chi bang?  Believe 
me, once I clear up this mess, I want to download it one more time and give it 
a good chance before deciding what to do with it.  I would really appreciate 
some help here.

Thanks much,

Stupid, Frustrated Me,

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Re: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Could be those AncientIllegal Alien spamners?

GOD for you is the Creator of the engineers that produced Apple!
C.R

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Fwd: Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

[E.T.]

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  موقع اليوتيوب الذي عرض فيديوهات جلسة استماع الكونجرس الأمريكي 
لمتابعة نشاطات غسل الأموال ونشاطات السعودي معن عبدالواحد الصانع مالك 
مستشفى  وشركة سعد  ومدارس سعد بالمنطقة الشرقية بالسعودية   ورئيس مجلس 
ادارة بنك اوال البحريني  وتعليق محطة سي ان بي سي التلفزيونية مترجم 
باللغة العربية US Congressional Hearing of  Saudi billionaire" maan  Al 
Sanea "  and Money Laundering with bank of America With Arabic Subtitles 
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Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

[saleem a]

*موقع اليوتيوب الذي عرض فيديوهات جلسة استماع الكونجرس الأمريكي *

* لمتابعة نشاطات غسل الأموال ونشاطات*



*السعودي معن عبدالواحد الصانع*

*مالك مستشفى  وشركة سعد  ومدارس سعد بالمنطقة الشرقية** بالسعودية * * ورئيس
مجلس ادارة بنك اوال البحريني*



 *وتعليق محطة سي ان بي سي التلفزيونية*



*مترجم باللغة العربية*



US Congressional Hearing of

 Saudi billionaire" maan  Al Sanea "

 and Money Laundering

with bank of America



With Arabic Subtitles





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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

[David Chittenden]

It will come to whichever countries MicroSoft is able to get access to the 
country specific product barcode databases.

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> On 18/07/2017, at 07:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Do you guys think this will come to smaller countries such as Sweden?
> Thanks.
> /A
>> 16 juli 2017 kl. 14:51 skrev Jeff Berwick :
>> 
>> I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
>> encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  
>>> I thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read. 
>>>  I blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur 
>>> to me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with 
>>> it.  There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
>>> 
 On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann  
 wrote:
 
 You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
 text.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
> walks all over KNFB.
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really 
>> am and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with 
>> grey hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years 
>> young.  It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in 
>> facial recognition.  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>  
>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
>> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe 
>> nearby people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the 
>> app enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
>> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides 
>> audio guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along 
>> with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio 
>> beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package information when 
>> available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves 
>> people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
>> age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an 
>> overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - 
>> Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from 
>> Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve 
>> more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. 
>> As the research progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit 
>> http://SeeingAI.com for more details and instructional videos.  
>> Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. 
>> Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported 
>> on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later 
>> models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ 
>> microsoft.com.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>  
>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>  
>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put 
>> in to get it.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being 
>>> married to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her 
>>> age 6 years older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. 
>>> All joking aside, the app works for people shots and does recognize 
>>> dogs as not people, I took a picture of our Husky X.  I would 

Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Do you guys think this will come to smaller countries such as Sweden?
Thanks.
/A
> 16 juli 2017 kl. 14:51 skrev Jeff Berwick :
> 
> I have to admit, Microsoft did an amazing job on this product.  It is 
> encouraging to think of the possibilities going forward.
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Larry Thacker Jr. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.  I was so blown away by the performance I didn’t explore further.  I 
>> thought I’d try it on my mail and was just amazed by how quickly it read.  I 
>> blew through the intro without paying much attention, so it didn’t occur to 
>> me there would be a mode for document scanning.  I’ll have to play with it.  
>> There may not be a reason for me to bother with KNFB going forward.  
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Mann >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
>>> text.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. >> > wrote:
>>> 
 It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
 walks all over KNFB.
 
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
> > wrote:
> 
> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really 
> am and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with 
> grey hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years 
> young.  It is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in 
> facial recognition.  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
> the description in the Canada Store.
>  
> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project 
> harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby 
> people, text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app 
> enables you to recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it 
> appears in front of the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio 
> guidance to capture a printed page, and recognizes the text, along with 
> its original formatting.  • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps 
> to guide you; hear the name, and package information when available. 
> (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People - Saves people’s faces 
> so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their age, gender, and 
> emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall description 
> of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” and 
> “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
> and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the 
> power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research 
> progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com 
>  for more details and instructional videos.  
> Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. 
> Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported 
> on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later 
> models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ 
> microsoft.com .
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
>  
> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put 
> in to get it.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being 
>> married to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her 
>> age 6 years older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All 
>> joking aside, the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as 
>> not people, I took a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and 

Re: How to click mouse in fusion, jaw 8 doesn't work

[Jonathan Cohn]

So, you re-mapped the insert key to your key and not the caps lock. Though,
I have no idea exactly what would happen if you just created a new key
marked as caps lock, my expectation is that the Mac would still not fully
transfer the key over to the VM.  In laptop layout the insert+something
else will do what the standard layout says even  if the laptop layout is
enabled. So in key mappings you might see jaws+8 and insert+8 and this is
what is hitting you. I have never reviewed the settings in the k***
keyboard layout in Jaws, so perhaps this does what you need i.e. enable all
the laptop layout but using the insert key  instead of the jaws key. You
can open the jaws .jkm files in any text editor and adjust significantly,
including adding "layer keystrokes. (insert+space followed by h) etcetera .

I wonder, would anybody like to see a "VoiceOVer" layout for the JAWS
functions? I had thought of doing a WIndowEyes layout and still might.

It would be a fun weekend project.



On 17 July 2017 at 13:00, Scott Granados  wrote:

> It actually says jaws script manager and jaws window manager.
>
> If I switch to Kinasis mode though I can click the mouse, which is a work
> around for now.
>
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>
> Sounds strange, I have a Windows keyboard always attached,  so I don't
> have to resort to the hack of migrating caps lock to a different key. What
> happens when you turn on keyboard help (jaws-1) does jaws-8 say left mouse
> click?
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, so I set this when I first installed Jaws.  The laptop layout is set,
> my other choices are desktop and kinasis.  (Sorry for the spelling)
>
> I just checked and confirmed, laptop set.
>
> Good suggestion though.
>
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 12:06 PM, David Griffith 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> It sounds like you are still in the default Desktop layout for Jaws.
> This  may be an obvious point but have you actually told Jaws that you
> want to use Laptop Key layout?
> Jaws is not clever enough to detect that you are using a laptop
>  automatically and will keep to default Desktop layout until this is
> manually changed.
> The easiest way to do this is probably by running the Start Up wizard from
> the Help menu in Jaws.
>
> David Griffith
> *From: *Scott Granados 
> *Sent: *13 July 2017 15:49
> *To: *MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> *Subject: *How to click mouse in fusion, jaw 8 doesn't work
>
> Hi, wonder if someone can provide some pointers here.  I’m in voice over
> running fusion as usual, JFW is installed, karabiner redefined my ` key as
> the jaws key.  Things like jaws k p and r work for example limiting the
> cursor or changing the cursor.  When I press jaws key or ` in this case and
> 8 it does not click the mouse.  What should be left click comes up with jaw
> manager and 9 which should be right click comes up with a frame manager.
> How can I make this click specifically right click?  The JFW documentation
> confirms in laptop keyboard mode the jaws 8 should work but they refer to
> caps lock which I rerouted to ` with karabiner.  Any ideas what I’m doing
> wrong?
>
> Thanks
> Scott
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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

[Jessica Moss]

I like the document feature a lot better than short text.  I can almost never 
get camera focussed properly for the short text channel.
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> You can actually save it if you use the document channel instead of short 
> text.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 8:52 PM, Larry Thacker Jr.  > wrote:
> 
>> It is awesome for quick reading.  If you don’t need to save the text, it 
>> walks all over KNFB.
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 6:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
>>> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
>>> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
>>> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
>>> recognition.  
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from 
>>> the description in the Canada Store.
>>>  
>>> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for 
>>> the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses 
>>> the power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, 
>>> text, and objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to 
>>> recognize:  •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of 
>>> the camera.  • Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a 
>>> printed page, and recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  
>>> • Products - Scans barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, 
>>> and package information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   
>>> People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an 
>>> estimate of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early 
>>> preview) - Hear an overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in 
>>> other apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe 
>>> images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help 
>>> you achieve more by leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial 
>>> intelligence. As the research progresses, more channels may be added.  
>>> Visit http://SeeingAI.com  for more details and 
>>> instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
>>> Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
>>> English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 
>>> 6S and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at 
>>> seeingai @ microsoft.com .
>>>  
>>> Later...
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>>>  
>>> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
>>> to get it.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
 On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs > wrote:
 
 I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
 to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 
 years older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking 
 aside, the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not 
 people, I took a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have 
 sent the YouTube link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
 To: Mark Taylor >; Macvisionaries 
 >
 Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk 
 Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
 
 https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8 
 
 
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Re: Downloading on an iPhone 6S

[Jonathan Cohn]

Also, if you are looking at the apples app directory, you should be able to
find the link after the text: App Store Link:
and click on that to open in iTunes.
Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 17 July 2017 at 14:40, Scott Granados  wrote:

> You don’t download like traditional computers.  Go to the App Store, put
> the app you want in the search bar and buy it or get it, buy means you pay
> money and get means it’s free to install.
>
> > On Jul 17, 2017, at 2:29 PM, George Cassell 
> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, anything.  I’m looking at some apps on AppleVis, and while I
> can find the apps on the website, I have no idea where to download the apps
> to on my phone to install it.
> >
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2017, at 11:24 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> >
> >>  First, what do you want to download?
> >>
> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
> >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
> >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> >>
> >> On 7/17/2017 11:18 AM, George Cassell wrote:
> >>> How does one download onto an iPhone?
> >>>
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Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

[Jessica Moss]

I love the way it helps you scan documents/barcodes; well, for the most part.  
I love how it helps you align the camera with the product/document, however, 
I’ve had several issues where I couldn’t get products to scan at all, or had 
trouble aligning them, so that may just be something I’ll have to play around 
with.
  I got it to scan the instruction card from a mix I was going to cook, which 
my zoomEx always has the hardest time with, and it read it almost perfectly, 
except it constantly said the recipe called for H cup of water, which it read 
that as no matter how many times I scanned it.
  I later got sighted assistance with it, and found out the “H, cup water,” was 
1/2 cup water.
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 7:44 PM, David & his pack of dogs 
>  wrote:
> 
> They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am 
> and my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey 
> hair and a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It 
> is still a good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial 
> recognition.  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
> description in the Canada Store.
>  
> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
> blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
> power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
> objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  
> •  Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
>Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
> recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
> barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
> information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   
> People - Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate 
> of their age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an 
> overall description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just 
> tap “Share” and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, 
> Photos, Twitter, and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by 
> leveraging the power of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the 
> research progresses, more channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com 
>  for more details and instructional videos.  Available 
> in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to 
> more countries.  Languages supported – English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S 
> and later; best performance with iPhone 6S and later models. Questions, 
> feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai @ microsoft.com 
> .
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:
>  
> I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in 
> to get it.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs > > wrote:
>> 
>> I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married 
>> to me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years 
>> older then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, 
>> the app works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took 
>> a picture of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube 
>> link to people in Canada and New Zealand.  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
>> To: Mark Taylor >; Macvisionaries 
>> >
>> Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk 
>> Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Downloading on an iPhone 6S

[Scott Granados]

You don’t download like traditional computers.  Go to the App Store, put the 
app you want in the search bar and buy it or get it, buy means you pay money 
and get means it’s free to install.

> On Jul 17, 2017, at 2:29 PM, George Cassell  wrote:
> 
> Actually, anything.  I’m looking at some apps on AppleVis, and while I can 
> find the apps on the website, I have no idea where to download the apps to on 
> my phone to install it.
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2017, at 11:24 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>>  First, what do you want to download?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 7/17/2017 11:18 AM, George Cassell wrote:
>>> How does one download onto an iPhone?
>>> 
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Re: Downloading on an iPhone 6S

[E.T.]

   That is a good start. On the iPhone, open the App Store, find the 
search field and type in an app. select what you think is the right one 
from the results and if its free, find the Get button to download and 
install it. If its a paid app the same button will have the price. For 
those you need an Apple ID and credit card information.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 7/17/2017 11:29 AM, George Cassell wrote:

Actually, anything.  I’m looking at some apps on AppleVis, and while I can find 
the apps on the website, I have no idea where to download the apps to on my 
phone to install it.


On Jul 17, 2017, at 11:24 AM, E.T.  wrote:


  First, what do you want to download?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 "God for you is where you sweep away all the
 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
 our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 7/17/2017 11:18 AM, George Cassell wrote:

How does one download onto an iPhone?



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Re: Downloading on an iPhone 6S

[George Cassell]

Actually, anything.  I’m looking at some apps on AppleVis, and while I can find 
the apps on the website, I have no idea where to download the apps to on my 
phone to install it.


On Jul 17, 2017, at 11:24 AM, E.T.  wrote:

>   First, what do you want to download?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
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> On 7/17/2017 11:18 AM, George Cassell wrote:
>> How does one download onto an iPhone?
>> 
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Re: Downloading on an iPhone 6S

[E.T.]

   First, what do you want to download?

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How does one download onto an iPhone?



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Downloading on an iPhone 6S

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How does one download onto an iPhone?  

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Re: Making a Network selection Default in safari

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes.  Using the "network setup" command.  Some options are listed here

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/pro-tip-manage-wi-fi-with-terminal-commands-on-os-x/
 


or just type networksetup in Terminal and check out your options.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 17, 2017, at 09:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Is there away to add / remove networks from the configuration via CLI? 

Thanks,


On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 9:23 PM Tim Kilburn > wrote:
Hi,

If you no longer want the other network at all, then do the following.   Make 
sure that you're connected first to the network you wish to remain a part of 
then continue with the below steps.

1.  To the Apple menu.
2.  Down to System Preferences.
3.  Locate the Network button in the list of preferences, and press on it.
4.  Locate the Advanced button and press on it.
5.  Navigate to the table of networks then interact with it.
6.  Navigate to the network you wish to remove, then stop interacting with the 
table.
7.  Navigate right to the "Remove Network Profile" button and press on it.

If iCloud Keychain is enabled, then you will be asked a confirmation question, 
otherwise, it should just be removed.

8.  Press on OK.
9.  Press the Apply button and close System Prefs.

The old network should no longer be connected unless you actually do it 
yourself.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 16, 2017, at 18:34, Sharon Hooley > wrote:

Hi,

There are now two internet services in my house.  My chosen one is Centurylink, 
to be specific.  The problem is that, even after I check to select it, it seems 
to wander back to the other service, at least when I try to download.  It takes 
data away from that end.  How do I make it permanent?

Thanks,

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Re: How to click mouse in fusion, jaw 8 doesn't work

[Scott Granados]

It actually says jaws script manager and jaws window manager.

If I switch to Kinasis mode though I can click the mouse, which is a work 
around for now.

> On Jul 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Sounds strange, I have a Windows keyboard always attached,  so I don't have 
> to resort to the hack of migrating caps lock to a different key. What happens 
> when you turn on keyboard help (jaws-1) does jaws-8 say left mouse click?
> 
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, so I set this when I first installed Jaws.  The laptop layout is set, my 
>> other choices are desktop and kinasis.  (Sorry for the spelling)
>> 
>> I just checked and confirmed, laptop set.
>> 
>> Good suggestion though.
>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 12:06 PM, David Griffith >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> It sounds like you are still in the default Desktop layout for Jaws.
>>> This  may be an obvious point but have you actually told Jaws that you want 
>>> to use Laptop Key layout? 
>>> Jaws is not clever enough to detect that you are using a laptop  
>>> automatically and will keep to default Desktop layout until this is 
>>> manually changed.
>>> The easiest way to do this is probably by running the Start Up wizard from 
>>> the Help menu in Jaws.
>>>  
>>> David Griffith
>>> From: Scott Granados 
>>> Sent: 13 July 2017 15:49
>>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
>>> 
>>> Subject: How to click mouse in fusion, jaw 8 doesn't work
>>>  
>>> Hi, wonder if someone can provide some pointers here.  I’m in voice over 
>>> running fusion as usual, JFW is installed, karabiner redefined my ` key as 
>>> the jaws key.  Things like jaws k p and r work for example limiting the 
>>> cursor or changing the cursor.  When I press jaws key or ` in this case and 
>>> 8 it does not click the mouse.  What should be left click comes up with jaw 
>>> manager and 9 which should be right click comes up with a frame manager.  
>>> How can I make this click specifically right click?  The JFW documentation 
>>> confirms in laptop keyboard mode the jaws 8 should work but they refer to 
>>> caps lock which I rerouted to ` with karabiner.  Any ideas what I’m doing 
>>> wrong?
>>>  
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
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3D Audio podcast tutorial 2: Basic controls

[Yuma Decaux]

Hey all,

Here's another podcast, this time talking about basic controls and smaller 
structures to keep what you need to move around the 3D space.

https://www.oseyeris.com/post/3d-game-podcast-2-getting-your-basic-game-controls
 


As usual, the example project is available for download to change and customise.


Have a great day







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Re: Making a Network selection Default in safari

[Jonathan Cohn]

Is there away to add / remove networks from the configuration via CLI?

Thanks,


On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 9:23 PM Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you no longer want the other network at all, then do the following.
>  Make sure that you're connected first to the network you wish to remain a
> part of then continue with the below steps.
>
> 1.  To the Apple menu.
> 2.  Down to System Preferences.
> 3.  Locate the Network button in the list of preferences, and press on it.
> 4.  Locate the Advanced button and press on it.
> 5.  Navigate to the table of networks then interact with it.
> 6.  Navigate to the network you wish to remove, then stop interacting with
> the table.
> 7.  Navigate right to the "Remove Network Profile" button and press on it.
>
> If iCloud Keychain is enabled, then you will be asked a confirmation
> question, otherwise, it should just be removed.
>
> 8.  Press on OK.
> 9.  Press the Apply button and close System Prefs.
>
> The old network should no longer be connected unless you actually do it
> yourself.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Jul 16, 2017, at 18:34, Sharon Hooley  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There are now two internet services in my house.  My chosen one is
> Centurylink, to be specific.  The problem is that, even after I check to
> select it, it seems to wander back to the other service, at least when I
> try to download.  It takes data away from that end.  How do I make it
> permanent?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Which virtual machine software is accessible?

[Scott Granados]

+1 on VM fusion.  I hear parallels has recently become accessible but no idea 
first hand.  VM Fusion does everything I need and I’m a heavy user of 
parallelization software.

> On Jul 17, 2017, at 2:33 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi  
> 
> The most accessible VM software is vm Fusion but there is a price for it.
> 
> If you are only going to use the windows machine only once an a while then 
> I'd recommend eiter Virtual box which is free but not as VO friendly as 
> fusion,
> 
> Or install the windows OS into bootcamp and switch between them when you need 
> to access windows.
> 
> The only problem with bootcamp is that you can only use one os at a time,
> 
> With fusion or virtual box you can run the mac os all the time and open the 
> windows vm when you need it just like an application.
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Which virtual machine software is accessible?
> 
> Hi all
> I want to put Windows 10 on my MBP for very occasional use and because I have 
> a quad core i7 with 16 GB RAM, I think it will be fine if I run a virtual 
> machine rather than Bootcamp.
> 
> Which virtual machine software is most accessible for use with Voiceover and 
> easiest to use?
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RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

[David & his pack of dogs]

I suppose it depends on which side of the fence one is on.  Some women marry 
their financial plan and men marry to get a maid. Maybe we should ask SIRI her 
opinion?  LOL.   

 

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On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: July 16, 2017 11:46 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

is this possibly 18 years worth of stress from being married?

 

You said your wife had aged 6 years from being married to you?

 

This works both ways!

 

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2017 11:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.  

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

 

Hi,

 

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

 

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details and 
instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S 
and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai 
@ microsoft.com  .

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada 

 

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu  > wrote:

 

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.

On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs  > wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.  

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Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mark Taylor  >; Macvisionaries 
 >
Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk  
Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8


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RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

[Simon Fogarty]

is this possibly 18 years worth of stress from being married?

You said your wife had aged 6 years from being married to you?

This works both ways!



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2017 11:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

They must work on its accuracy.  It had me 18 years older then I really am and 
my wife 6 years older.  I am listed as a 76 years young man with grey hair and 
a beard.  I’m greying at the temples but, only 58 years young.  It is still a 
good app, though.  Just question its accuracy in facial recognition.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: July 15, 2017 1:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

Hi,

I don't believe that it's available in the UK yet.  Below is pasted from the 
description in the Canada Store.

Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed for the 
blind and low vision community, this ongoing research project harnesses the 
power of AI to open up the visual world and describe nearby people, text, and 
objects. Optimized for use with VoiceOver, the app enables you to recognize:  • 
 Short Text - Speaks text as soon as it appears in front of the camera.  •  
   Documents - Provides audio guidance to capture a printed page, and 
recognizes the text, along with its original formatting.  • Products - Scans 
barcodes, using audio beeps to guide you; hear the name, and package 
information when available. (works with iPhone 6 and later) •   People 
- Saves people’s faces so you can recognize them, and get an estimate of their 
age, gender, and emotions.  •   Scenes (early preview) - Hear an overall 
description of the scene captured.  •  Images in other apps - Just tap “Share” 
and “Recognize with Seeing AI” to describe images from Mail, Photos, Twitter, 
and more.  Seeing AI is built to help you achieve more by leveraging the power 
of the cloud and artificial intelligence. As the research progresses, more 
channels may be added.  Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details and 
instructional videos.  Available in the U.S., Canada, India, Hong Kong, New 
Zealand, Singapore. Coming soon to more countries.  Languages supported – 
English  Supported on iPhone 5C, 5S and later; best performance with iPhone 6S 
and later models. Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at seeingai 
@ microsoft.com.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 15, 2017, at 14:22, Kawal Gucukoglu 
> wrote:

I can't find it in the App store in the UK.  Please tell me what you put in to 
get it.

Kawal.
On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:55, David & his pack of dogs 
> wrote:

I loaded the app on my IPhone and took a picture of my wife. Being married to 
me has aged her by 6 years, according to the app. It had her age 6 years older 
then she really is.  Well, it is good for a laugh. All joking aside, the app 
works for people shots and does recognize dogs as not people, I took a picture 
of our Husky X.  I would recommend it, and have sent the YouTube link to people 
in Canada and New Zealand.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: July 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mark Taylor >; Macvisionaries 
>
Cc: guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk
Subject: Seeing AI app from Microsoft

https://youtu.be/bqeQByqf_f8


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RE: Which virtual machine software is accessible?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi  

The most accessible VM software is vm Fusion but there is a price for it.

 If you are only going to use the windows machine only once an a while then I'd 
recommend eiter Virtual box which is free but not as VO friendly as fusion,

Or install the windows OS into bootcamp and switch between them when you need 
to access windows.

 The only problem with bootcamp is that you can only use one os at a time,

 With fusion or virtual box you can run the mac os all the time and open the 
windows vm when you need it just like an application.
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Sent: Sunday, 16 July 2017 4:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Which virtual machine software is accessible?

Hi all
I want to put Windows 10 on my MBP for very occasional use and because I have a 
quad core i7 with 16 GB RAM, I think it will be fine if I run a virtual machine 
rather than Bootcamp.

Which virtual machine software is most accessible for use with Voiceover and 
easiest to use?

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