Re: A Question About Using/Enabling Keychain Access on iPhone

[Scott Granados]

Hi Mark, I can’t imagine what that problem would be.  I’ve been using keychain 
since day 1 and have experienced no problems on any of my devices mobile or 
otherwise.

Thanks
Scott

> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:08 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> While I do have keychain access enabled on my Macs, I seem to recall
> reading, online, a couple of years ago, that enabling keychain access on
> iPhone could sometimes cause some unexpected, and not at all beneficial,
> side-effects when either logging into the Mac or onto web sites or
> something.  I can't exactly remember but I do know that there was something
> that users encountered after enabling keychain access in iOS.  
> 
> Question,   
> 
> Has anyone using keychain access in IOS noticed any adverse consequences?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Hotspots not working properly.

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Anne,

It's all very strange: some people can use hotspots and others don't.  My 
hotspots don't stick at all, nor can I reliably set webspots.  I may be able to 
use them within the same application but they won't work for more than a few 
times and then they stop.  And if I call up hotspots chooser menu, Voiceover 
reports that the particular hotspot is inactive.  I had reset the VoiceOver to 
its original settings as John Panarese had suggested but to no avail.  I do 
hope that they will be fixed soon as I miss them.

I also wanted to ask you whether you were experiencing problems with Safari 
holding onto the Voiceover focus and dragging it to itself when trying to 
command+tab from Safari into another application.  I think it must be Voiceover 
problem because if I unload Voiceover and load it again, the problem 
disappears..  Another way which i have tried is to position my Voiceover cursor 
onto the toolbar in Safari and then I can tab away into another application.  
It's all beyond me.  This behaviour is not consistent though but it does happen 
for me often enough to become a nuisance.  The thing is Apple accessibility are 
telling me that they can't reproduce it so they won't work on it.  And yet, 
others have experienced this problem as well.

Thank you for writing.

Andrew
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 09:41, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> I can jump to a hotspot in another application as long as I’m using the basic 
> activity, not one I’ve created myself. So, I can’t jump to a hotspot in 
> Safari from Mail, because I have a special Mail activity with low verbosity 
> and other variations from the norm. However, I can jump to a hotspot in 
> Safari from the Finder.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 26 Oct 2015, at 23:36, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> hello,
>> 
>> I've just read Anne's post carefully.  I am unfortunately having problems 
>> with hotspots.   I set a hotspot in one application, and then launch another 
>> app in which I wish to do some work.  And then wehn I want to return to the 
>> application in which I had set a hotspot - I cant do so.  In the previous OS 
>> releases  I used to be able to jump to a hotspot regardless whether I was in 
>> the app or not, now i can't do it.  Is your experience, Anne, different? 
>> Have you tried to use the hotspot from another app?  
>>> On 26 Oct 2015, at 17:15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Report and report this to apple.
>>> Hopefully we will get this fixed.
>>> /A
 On 25 Oct 2015, at 22:41, gs  wrote:
 
 Well, I have had these kinds of issues ever since I started using the Mac 
 a couple of years ago. I was all excited about how it would be really 
 great and then when it didn't work I thought it might be something I was 
 just doing incorrectly or not understanding. At this point I have given up 
 entirely upon all of it and it's really a shame that the feature(s) do(es) 
 not work as advertised.
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 I can confirm this and I've written to the list about this before.  
 Hotspots just don't stick at all.  I had reported it in the beta testing 
 and I've reported it  since upgrading to El Capitan.  Please keep on 
 reporting it to Apple Accessibility.  It's not just on hotspot 22, it's 
 any hotspot I set that won't stick.  This feature is totally unusable now, 
 and the same goes for setting webspots.
 
 Andrew
> On 25 Oct 2015, at 17:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Before i tell apple accessibility about this i think i’d ask here first.
> I tried setting a hotspot on number 2 by pressing ctrl shift option 2.
> WHen i try to go to hotspot 2 nothing happens.
> This is on the latest el capitan on a mac mini mid 2011.
> Don’t know why its not working but it doesn’t.
> Can someone replicate this?
> Its just number 2 that doesn’t work.
> /A
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Scott Granados]

As promised, here you go.  It’s the first thing that pops up in google.  There 
are hundreds if not thousands of articles on the subject ranging across the 
OS’s but here’s a pointer to the latest. 

http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/

Also covers Macs and the watch.

> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'd love to read that info if it's still available.
> But again, it doesn't say anything in the manual about calibrating the 
> battery. But I'll still stick to my practice of discharging the battery every 
> so often.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here’s the big problem, these built in celebration systems do not allow the 
>> electrons to flow in the materials in the battery.  It’s very important that 
>> you fully discharge at least monthly to allow the electrons to rearrange.
>>   I got this information originally from the apple website itself, no idea 
>> if the document is still up there but I’ll check and forward on if it is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> A few things.
>>> 
>>> 1. None of this is in the iPhone guide.
>>> 2.Infact I called Apple and was told that the device and software totally 
>>> manage battery health and that it isn't necessary to calibrate the battery.
>>> Now, after saying that, I have made it a point to occasionally discharge 
>>> the battery to shutdown and then after a while more than an hour reconnect 
>>> and charge completely.
>>> I am sure that at one time this was really necessary, but according to 
>>> apple, as of iOS 9.0, this is no longer necessary.
>>> Unfortunately, I don't know who I spoke with.
>>> Just my thoughts and comments on the subject.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 
 This tells the circuits in the battery to drop their settings and 
 recalibrate.  I’m not sure if it fully discharges or if it’s something 
 built in to the software.
 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Why is it nessesarry to wait an hour or maybe more before recharging?
> Thanks.
> /A
>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:45, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> There are different ways.  Some people apparently say one hour some say 
>> over night.  You must perform the reset while the phone is at 100 
>> percent power and it is plugged in.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Scott,
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your 
>>> recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge.  
>>> 
>>> I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before 
>>> recharging.  
>>> 
>>> Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 
>>> 100% full power.  Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power 
>>> outlet at the time of the hard reset?  
>>> 
>>> Mark  
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark, yes I mean let the phone draw until it self powers down. Then 
>>> wait an additional hour or so after this point and charge it fully with 
>>> a complete cycle.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if that’s more clear.
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Scott,
 
 I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our conversation.
 
 Thank you ever so much for the tips on how to calibrate my iPhone 
 battery.  
 
 I will do exactly as you suggest.  
 
 I have already rebooted the phone and I have forced a reset via 
 simultaneously pressing both the Home and Power button until the 
 device restarted by displaying the Apple Logo.
 
 One question:
 
 When you say "completely drain the battery", do you mean let the 
 battery drain all the way down until the phone will no longer power 
 on? Past all of the warnings?
 
 Thank you again,
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 5:27 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: 

ios9 notifications

[Jean]

David:
That was it, thanks so much.
Jean

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Re: ios9 notifications

[E.T.]

   Why? The answer she received came to the list.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/28/2015 8:34 AM, george b wrote:

Lol what was it?

You need to reply with the email posted you replied to

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David:
That was it, thanks so much.
Jean



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RE: ios9 notifications

[george b]

Lol what was it?

You need to reply with the email posted you replied to 

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David:
That was it, thanks so much.
Jean

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RE: ios9 notifications

[george b]

Because I read my mail from newest to oldest and it the emails are in the same 
reply do not have to read others down the list.

That is why

How is that

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Why? The answer she received came to the list.

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On 10/28/2015 8:34 AM, george b wrote:
> Lol what was it?
>
> You need to reply with the email posted you replied to
>
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> David:
> That was it, thanks so much.
> Jean
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More on hotspots.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 2.
I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
stated?
I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
I keep you all posted if interested.
/A

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Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling

[Scott Granados]

So WiFi calling can sound as good as over the network calling if VOLTE is 
enabled and if the WiFi connection has a high bandwidth CODEC enabled.  VZW 
does as we built it that way, not sure how AT is rolled out.


> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mark,
> 
> You should be fine using WiFi calling as I am on the same AT plan as you 
> Grandfathered in to unlimited data and am now using WiFi calling. Honestly on 
> the 6S I think the call quality is better when not on WiFi calling which was 
> surprising to me. I actually had to just bump up my plan to unlimited texts 
> as I was still on the 200 text plan with unlimited data but had some idiot 
> buddies on iPhones who still had not enabled iMessaging and it caused me to 
> get to my cap and these were sighted people.
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Robin > > wrote:
>> 
>> AtLeast AT GrandFathered DataUsers are NOT being forced ToPay AnAdditional 
>> $20 PerMonth as VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are HighlyRumored ToBe In a 
>> CoupleOfWeeks Beginning ON or Near November16th
>> 
>> That would mean VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are Paying $50 AsOpposedTo $30
>> 
>> Lucky AT GrandFathered DataUsers
>> At 06:24 PM 10/26/2015, you wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> You are not missing anything.  Sometimes, it's just the price of 
>>> capitalism; that's putting it nicely.
>>> 
>>> The truth is, they really want to do away with unlimited data plans and but 
>>> for the FCC, they would have forced us out of them a long time ago.
>>> 
>>> I think the idea of being forced out of a plan that would not be impacted 
>>> by enabling a new feature is ludicrous but, logic has no place where greed 
>>> and power are concerned.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>>> Gilland
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:59 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited 
>>> Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
>>> 
>>> Why though would that effect data?  I thought wifi calling used a wifi 
>>> connection you're connected to locally?  Wifi calling doesn't eat up any of 
>>> your cellular data.  At least, it better not, as I was told it doesn't, so 
>>> why would they take away your data plan, just to give you something that 
>>> doesn't use internet data to start with?  That doesn't make any sense, 
>>> unless I'm missing something here.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tyler Thompson" >> >
>>> To: "Mac Group" >> >
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited 
>>> Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey Mark,
>>> 
>>> I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am not able to get wi-fi 
>>> calling or create a hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I think 
>>> you’re sort of out of luck. My advice would definitely be don’t give up 
>>> the deal. They may prohibit a couple of cool features but at the end of the 
>>> day it’s really nice not having to worry about data usage.
>>> > On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to
>>> > make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my
>>> > unlimited data plan.  For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to
>>> > do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited
>>> > data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others,
>>> > in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink),
>>> > cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan.
>>> >
>>> > A little paranoia on my part?  You bet!!
>>> >
>>> > All replies welcomed.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you,
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> > PS
>>> > Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received
>>> > inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it
>>> > comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past.
>>> >
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Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling

[Scott Granados]

If you’re not happy with your price point go to T-Mobile.  I have 2 unlimited 
accounts there for less than $100 and its’ real unlimited not we’ll throttle 
you after 20 - 40 megabytes unlimited like AT offers.

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> AtLeast AT GrandFathered DataUsers are NOT being forced ToPay AnAdditional 
> $20 PerMonth as VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are HighlyRumored ToBe In a 
> CoupleOfWeeks Beginning ON or Near November16th
> 
> That would mean VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are Paying $50 AsOpposedTo $30
> 
> Lucky AT GrandFathered DataUsers
> At 06:24 PM 10/26/2015, you wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> You are not missing anything.  Sometimes, it's just the price of capitalism; 
>> that's putting it nicely.
>> 
>> The truth is, they really want to do away with unlimited data plans and but 
>> for the FCC, they would have forced us out of them a long time ago.
>> 
>> I think the idea of being forced out of a plan that would not be impacted by 
>> enabling a new feature is ludicrous but, logic has no place where greed and 
>> power are concerned.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data 
>> Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
>> 
>> Why though would that effect data?  I thought wifi calling used a wifi 
>> connection you're connected to locally?  Wifi calling doesn't eat up any of 
>> your cellular data.  At least, it better not, as I was told it doesn't, so 
>> why would they take away your data plan, just to give you something that 
>> doesn't use internet data to start with?  That doesn't make any sense, 
>> unless I'm missing something here.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tyler Thompson" 
>> To: "Mac Group" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data 
>> Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Mark,
>> 
>> I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am not able to get wi-fi calling 
>> or create a hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I think you’re sort 
>> of out of luck. My advice would definitely be don’t give up the deal. They 
>> may prohibit a couple of cool features but at the end of the day it’s 
>> really nice not having to worry about data usage.
>> > On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to
>> > make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my
>> > unlimited data plan.  For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to
>> > do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited
>> > data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others,
>> > in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink),
>> > cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan.
>> >
>> > A little paranoia on my part?  You bet!!
>> >
>> > All replies welcomed.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > PS
>> > Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received
>> > inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it
>> > comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past.
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Re: More on hotspots.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Anders,

What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, the 
French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have numbers on 
the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, is not supported 
with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still work. In that case, 
hotspots are a nightmare.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 2.
> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
> stated?
> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
> I keep you all posted if interested.
> /A

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Re: Hotspots not working properly.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

I can’t remember whether you’ve answered this already, but did you do a clean 
install of El Capitán? I’m seeing a lot of anomalies where people have simply 
updated rather than doing a clean install. Apple makes it all too easy to do 
that which is unfortunate for new Mac users, several of whom we’ve had to 
rescue in recent weeks.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:26, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Dear Anne,
> 
> It's all very strange: some people can use hotspots and others don't.  My 
> hotspots don't stick at all, nor can I reliably set webspots.  I may be able 
> to use them within the same application but they won't work for more than a 
> few times and then they stop.  And if I call up hotspots chooser menu, 
> Voiceover reports that the particular hotspot is inactive.  I had reset the 
> VoiceOver to its original settings as John Panarese had suggested but to no 
> avail.  I do hope that they will be fixed soon as I miss them.
> 
> I also wanted to ask you whether you were experiencing problems with Safari 
> holding onto the Voiceover focus and dragging it to itself when trying to 
> command+tab from Safari into another application.  I think it must be 
> Voiceover problem because if I unload Voiceover and load it again, the 
> problem disappears..  Another way which i have tried is to position my 
> Voiceover cursor onto the toolbar in Safari and then I can tab away into 
> another application.  It's all beyond me.  This behaviour is not consistent 
> though but it does happen for me often enough to become a nuisance.  The 
> thing is Apple accessibility are telling me that they can't reproduce it so 
> they won't work on it.  And yet, others have experienced this problem as well.
> 
> Thank you for writing.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 09:41, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> I can jump to a hotspot in another application as long as I’m using the 
>> basic activity, not one I’ve created myself. So, I can’t jump to a hotspot 
>> in Safari from Mail, because I have a special Mail activity with low 
>> verbosity and other variations from the norm. However, I can jump to a 
>> hotspot in Safari from the Finder.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26 Oct 2015, at 23:36, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello,
>>> 
>>> I've just read Anne's post carefully.  I am unfortunately having problems 
>>> with hotspots.   I set a hotspot in one application, and then launch 
>>> another app in which I wish to do some work.  And then wehn I want to 
>>> return to the application in which I had set a hotspot - I cant do so.  In 
>>> the previous OS releases  I used to be able to jump to a hotspot regardless 
>>> whether I was in the app or not, now i can't do it.  Is your experience, 
>>> Anne, different? Have you tried to use the hotspot from another app?  
 On 26 Oct 2015, at 17:15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Report and report this to apple.
 Hopefully we will get this fixed.
 /A
> On 25 Oct 2015, at 22:41, gs  wrote:
> 
> Well, I have had these kinds of issues ever since I started using the Mac 
> a couple of years ago. I was all excited about how it would be really 
> great and then when it didn't work I thought it might be something I was 
> just doing incorrectly or not understanding. At this point I have given 
> up entirely upon all of it and it's really a shame that the feature(s) 
> do(es) not work as advertised.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> I can confirm this and I've written to the list about this before.  
> Hotspots just don't stick at all.  I had reported it in the beta testing 
> and I've reported it  since upgrading to El Capitan.  Please keep on 
> reporting it to Apple Accessibility.  It's not just on hotspot 22, it's 
> any hotspot I set that won't stick.  This feature is totally unusable 
> now, and the same goes for setting webspots.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 25 Oct 2015, at 17:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Before i tell apple accessibility about this i think i’d ask here first.
>> I tried setting a hotspot on number 2 by pressing ctrl shift option 2.
>> WHen i try to go to hotspot 2 nothing happens.
>> This is on the latest el capitan on a mac mini mid 2011.
>> Don’t know why its not working but it doesn’t.
>> Can someone replicate this?
>> Its just number 2 that doesn’t work.
>> /A
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RE: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling

[Robin]

AtLeast AT GrandFathered DataUsers are NOT 
being forced ToPay AnAdditional $20 PerMonth as 
VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are HighlyRumored 
ToBe In a CoupleOfWeeks Beginning ON or Near November16th


That would mean VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are Paying $50 AsOpposedTo $30

Lucky AT GrandFathered DataUsers
At 06:24 PM 10/26/2015, you wrote:

Chris,

You are not missing anything.  Sometimes, it's 
just the price of capitalism; that's putting it nicely.


The truth is, they really want to do away with 
unlimited data plans and but for the FCC, they 
would have forced us out of them a long time ago.


I think the idea of being forced out of a plan 
that would not be impacted by enabling a new 
feature is ludicrous but, logic has no place 
where greed and power are concerned.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless 
Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling


Why though would that effect data?  I thought 
wifi calling used a wifi connection you're 
connected to locally?  Wifi calling doesn't eat 
up any of your cellular data.  At least, it 
better not, as I was told it doesn't, so why 
would they take away your data plan, just to 
give you something that doesn't use internet 
data to start with?  That doesn't make any 
sense, unless I'm missing something here.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: "Tyler Thompson" 
To: "Mac Group" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless 
Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling



Hey Mark,

I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am 
not able to get wi-fi calling or create a 
hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I 
think you’re sort of out of luck. My advice 
would definitely be don’t give up the deal. 
They may prohibit a couple of cool features but 
at the end of the day it’s really nice not having to worry about data usage.

> On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to
> make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my
> unlimited data plan.  For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to
> do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited
> data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others,
> in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink),
> cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan.
>
> A little paranoia on my part?  You bet!!
>
> All replies welcomed.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mark
> PS
> Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received
> inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it
> comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past.
>
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Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Mark,

You should be fine using WiFi calling as I am on the same AT plan as you 
Grandfathered in to unlimited data and am now using WiFi calling. Honestly on 
the 6S I think the call quality is better when not on WiFi calling which was 
surprising to me. I actually had to just bump up my plan to unlimited texts as 
I was still on the 200 text plan with unlimited data but had some idiot buddies 
on iPhones who still had not enabled iMessaging and it caused me to get to my 
cap and these were sighted people.
> On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> AtLeast AT GrandFathered DataUsers are NOT being forced ToPay AnAdditional 
> $20 PerMonth as VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are HighlyRumored ToBe In a 
> CoupleOfWeeks Beginning ON or Near November16th
> 
> That would mean VZW GrandFathered DataUsers are Paying $50 AsOpposedTo $30
> 
> Lucky AT GrandFathered DataUsers
> At 06:24 PM 10/26/2015, you wrote:
>> Chris,
>> 
>> You are not missing anything.  Sometimes, it's just the price of capitalism; 
>> that's putting it nicely.
>> 
>> The truth is, they really want to do away with unlimited data plans and but 
>> for the FCC, they would have forced us out of them a long time ago.
>> 
>> I think the idea of being forced out of a plan that would not be impacted by 
>> enabling a new feature is ludicrous but, logic has no place where greed and 
>> power are concerned.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
>> Gilland
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data 
>> Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
>> 
>> Why though would that effect data?  I thought wifi calling used a wifi 
>> connection you're connected to locally?  Wifi calling doesn't eat up any of 
>> your cellular data.  At least, it better not, as I was told it doesn't, so 
>> why would they take away your data plan, just to give you something that 
>> doesn't use internet data to start with?  That doesn't make any sense, 
>> unless I'm missing something here.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tyler Thompson" 
>> To: "Mac Group" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: A Question to A T & T Wireless Customers with an Unlimited Data 
>> Plan, Regarding WiFi Calling
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Mark,
>> 
>> I’m grandfathered in to the same deal and am not able to get wi-fi calling 
>> or create a hotspot without losing my unlimited data. I think you’re sort 
>> of out of luck. My advice would definitely be don’t give up the deal. They 
>> may prohibit a couple of cool features but at the end of the day it’s 
>> really nice not having to worry about data usage.
>> > On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:46, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Before I enable the new WiFi calling feature in iOS 9.1, I want to
>> > make certain that doing so will not automatically kick me off of my
>> > unlimited data plan.  For years, A T & T Wireless has been trying to
>> > do anything that will cause one to lose their grandfathered unlimited
>> > data; I don't want them to trick me as they have done so many others,
>> > in the past, by offering other options, which coincidentally, (wink),
>> > cause the revocation of the unlimited data plan.
>> >
>> > A little paranoia on my part?  You bet!!
>> >
>> > All replies welcomed.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > PS
>> > Yes, I know I could call them but, to be honest, I have received
>> > inaccurate information from their call centers, especially when it
>> > comes to the unlimited data plan, in the past.
>> >
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Re: More on hotspots.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I use swedish keyboard here.
Maybe this is the case here to.
I wonder why?
/A
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 19:12, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anders,
> 
> What keyboard layout are you using? I ask because with French keyboards, the 
> French Numeric layout, which allows you to use the caps lock to have numbers 
> on the top row instead of upper case accented letters and so on, is not 
> supported with VoiceOver, although any commands using letters still work. In 
> that case, hotspots are a nightmare.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 18:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, so i did a reset of my vo settings and still no go for hotspot number 2.
>> I tested this on my mac mini mid 2011 and my new macbook air.
>> So how in the world can this be device specific as the accessibility team 
>> stated?
>> I have got back to them so i hope i will get any advice.
>> I keep you all posted if interested.
>> /A
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Re: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[joseph hudson]

George, she's in Stockton California
> On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:09 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> We need to know what area
>  
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> Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California
>  
> Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live 
> in California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. 
> She knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others 
> that I can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, 
> and she already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

If you are not familiar with terminal and you are using VO. Once you open 
terminal interact with it. VO, shift + down arrow.

HTH

Gena
> On 29 Oct 2015, at 01:03, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> when I copy the below text and paste it into terminal where do I enter a 
> password?
> As per step  11.
> Max.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2015, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
>> 
>> I hope you find the following information useful.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
>> 
>> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the download
>> has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather than actually
>> going through the process of upgrading over the top of your existing OS X
>> installation. Make sure that the installer that downloads the El Capitan
>> file is located in the /Applications folder under the name 'Install OS X El
>> Capitan.app'.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need to
>> format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can accept the
>> payload for the installation of El Capitan.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Launch the Disk Utility application.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Click the Partition tab.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and set
>> the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>> 
>> 7.
>> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the popup
>> window then click the OK button.
>> 
>> 8.
>> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to confirm
>> click the Partition button.
>> 
>> 9.
>> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
>> 
>> 10.
>> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make sure you
>> do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the one we just
>> created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command in the Terminal
>> window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
>> 
>> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\
>> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled
>> --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app
>> --nointeraction
>> 
>> 11.
>> Enter your Administrative account password.
>> 
>> 12.
>> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for OS X
>> El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly created El
>> Capitan Installer key.
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi

It does. As soon as you paste the command, it will display the word "password" 
but use the VoiceOver cursor to verify, although it shouldn't be necessary. You 
can just enter it and press return, then wait. It will take some time. You will 
see a line of text showing computer name and current path when done.

Nicolai

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Oct 2015, at 21:24, Daniel Chavez  wrote:
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> The password prompt must occur before it copies files I believe.
> I, too, tried to make a bootable disk of 10.11, but it never worked.
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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Scott.

Thanks for the article.  The article didn’t mention what you said, hold the 
home and power button together and boot your phone etc to calibrate the 
battery.  Does that mean that you don’t need to do that anymore?

Kawal.
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:12, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> As promised, here you go.  It’s the first thing that pops up in google.  
> There are hundreds if not thousands of articles on the subject ranging across 
> the OS’s but here’s a pointer to the latest. 
> 
> http://www.apple.com/batteries/maximizing-performance/
> 
> Also covers Macs and the watch.
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Dan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I'd love to read that info if it's still available.
>> But again, it doesn't say anything in the manual about calibrating the 
>> battery. But I'll still stick to my practice of discharging the battery 
>> every so often.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here’s the big problem, these built in celebration systems do not allow the 
>>> electrons to flow in the materials in the battery.  It’s very important 
>>> that you fully discharge at least monthly to allow the electrons to 
>>> rearrange.
>>>  I got this information originally from the apple website itself, no idea 
>>> if the document is still up there but I’ll check and forward on if it is.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dan  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 A few things.
 
 1. None of this is in the iPhone guide.
 2.Infact I called Apple and was told that the device and software totally 
 manage battery health and that it isn't necessary to calibrate the battery.
 Now, after saying that, I have made it a point to occasionally discharge 
 the battery to shutdown and then after a while more than an hour reconnect 
 and charge completely.
 I am sure that at one time this was really necessary, but according to 
 apple, as of iOS 9.0, this is no longer necessary.
 Unfortunately, I don't know who I spoke with.
 Just my thoughts and comments on the subject.
 
 
 Dan
 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Scott Granados  
> wrote:
> 
> This tells the circuits in the battery to drop their settings and 
> recalibrate.  I’m not sure if it fully discharges or if it’s something 
> built in to the software.
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Why is it nessesarry to wait an hour or maybe more before recharging?
>> Thanks.
>> /A
>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 14:45, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> There are different ways.  Some people apparently say one hour some say 
>>> over night.  You must perform the reset while the phone is at 100 
>>> percent power and it is plugged in.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 6:44 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Scott,
 
 Thank you.
 
 I did let the phone run all the way down but did not wait your 
 recommended 1 hour before beginning the recharge.  
 
 I will let it run down, again, and then wait the one hour before 
 recharging.  
 
 Should I perform the hard reset when the phone is at 0% power? or at 
 100% full power.  Does it matter if the phone is connected to a power 
 outlet at the time of the hard reset?  
 
 Mark  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:47 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery
 
 Hi Mark, yes I mean let the phone draw until it self powers down. Then 
 wait an additional hour or so after this point and charge it fully 
 with a complete cycle.
 
 Let me know if that’s more clear.
 
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Scott,
> 
> I changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our 
> conversation.
> 
> Thank you ever so much for the tips on how to calibrate my iPhone 
> battery.  
> 
> I will do exactly as you suggest.  
> 
> I have already rebooted the phone and I have forced a reset via 
> simultaneously pressing both the Home and Power button until the 
> device restarted by displaying the Apple Logo.
> 
> One question:
> 
> When you say "completely drain the battery", do you mean let the 
> 

Re: looking for files in finder

[Marie Lyons]

It’s more like looking for something in windows explorer, only when you scroll 
through your screen reader won’t read them.  If I open “All my files”  it will 
only show recent ones so v/o reads them.  

Marie
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 10:06 PM, percygarrett  wrote:
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Marie Lyons" 
> To:  interacting with the document on the screen by pressing VO/shift/down arrow 
> will place us in the document text. Pressing VO/shift/down arrow a second 
> time enable us to interact with the text by letter, word, line and etc.
>  Percy garrettmacvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:58 PM
> Subject: looking for files in finder
> 
> 
> Last night I ran into something very strange.  I was looking for a document 
> but couldn’t see it using v/o.  A sighted person could see the document on 
> the screen and with their help I was able to find the document in question. I 
> am still using yosemite.  Does anyone know why this would happen and how to 
> fix it?
> 
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Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Chris G.

I really liked your recording.  I wish I could use something to record my music 
etc but don’t know how to use things like Garage Band etc.

Thanks.

Kawal. 
> On 27 Oct 2015, at 23:56, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I use it on the mac, and it works just fine.
>  
> I'm more of a ProTools guy, but I definitely have used it on the mac.  Here's 
> a recording I through together.  All me singing and all me playing.  And 
> before Mark kills me, yes!  I definitely have sought the copy right holder's 
> permission to post this here, and she said it was totally OK for me to do so.
>  
> Again, this is a song I covered and totally arranged/recorded in my studio.  
> All me singing, and all the instruments are me as well.  All done in Reaper 
> on the mac.
>  
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/Chris%20Gilland%20-%20You%27re%20Not%20Alone.wav
>  
> 
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chris Moore 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?
>> 
>> I made a valiant attempt but cam up well short.  I think it would require 
>> some major sighted assistance to get it configured for your needs.  Portions 
>> of the Mac app talk including menus.  Wish I had better news, but IMHO it’s 
>> a no go for now.
>> Chris
>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Michael Babcock >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was not on the website you gave me; and i have not installed that file 
>>> the reaaccess yet; that’s only for windows and haven’t batted into win to 
>>> install reaper yet.
>>> looks like reaaccess isn’t in development anymore;
>>> but thanks for the mailing list to google; i’ll figure it out then.
>>> 
>>> Michael Babcock
>>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>>> http://yourownpay.com/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 > wrote:
 
 Did you not find the info I told you to search for, for the Reapers with 
 Peepers Mailing list?  I can't recall the subscription info.
 
 I wanna say:
 
 reapers-with-peepers-requ...@bluegrasspals.com 
 
 
 Put Subscribe in the body of the message.
 
 I could have this wrong though.  I'd suggest Googling.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Michael Babcock" 
 >
 To: >
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:43 PM
 Subject: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?
 
 
>> I was just wondering if anyone had any quick start guides, tips, or 
>> tricks for using this software with voiceover?
>> best.
>> 
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay.com/  > >
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Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?

[joseph hudson]

Hey Chris, what a good recording that even sounded really good. Now I'll just 
go I can tell you I think that you should make a point to go to Nashville and 
perform for them because as good as you are with technology you are good at 
singing to so if you are looking for new job I suggest becoming a country 
singer.
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I use it on the mac, and it works just fine.
>  
> I'm more of a ProTools guy, but I definitely have used it on the mac.  Here's 
> a recording I through together.  All me singing and all me playing.  And 
> before Mark kills me, yes!  I definitely have sought the copy right holder's 
> permission to post this here, and she said it was totally OK for me to do so.
>  
> Again, this is a song I covered and totally arranged/recorded in my studio.  
> All me singing, and all the instruments are me as well.  All done in Reaper 
> on the mac.
>  
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/Chris%20Gilland%20-%20You%27re%20Not%20Alone.wav
>  
> 
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chris Moore 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?
>> 
>> I made a valiant attempt but cam up well short.  I think it would require 
>> some major sighted assistance to get it configured for your needs.  Portions 
>> of the Mac app talk including menus.  Wish I had better news, but IMHO it’s 
>> a no go for now.
>> Chris
>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Michael Babcock >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was not on the website you gave me; and i have not installed that file 
>>> the reaaccess yet; that’s only for windows and haven’t batted into win to 
>>> install reaper yet.
>>> looks like reaaccess isn’t in development anymore;
>>> but thanks for the mailing list to google; i’ll figure it out then.
>>> 
>>> Michael Babcock
>>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>>> http://yourownpay.com/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 > wrote:
 
 Did you not find the info I told you to search for, for the Reapers with 
 Peepers Mailing list?  I can't recall the subscription info.
 
 I wanna say:
 
 reapers-with-peepers-requ...@bluegrasspals.com 
 
 
 Put Subscribe in the body of the message.
 
 I could have this wrong though.  I'd suggest Googling.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Michael Babcock" 
 >
 To: >
 Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:43 PM
 Subject: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?
 
 
>> I was just wondering if anyone had any quick start guides, tips, or 
>> tricks for using this software with voiceover?
>> best.
>> 
>> Michael Babcock
>> Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
>> @payown on periscope and twitter.
>> http://yourownpay.com/  > >
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Re: clean my mac on El Capitan

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

How does a battery get swollen?
> On 28 Oct 2015, at 02:22, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> right now, I am not even running with a battery. I am using only the power 
> supply to run this thing. the battery is swollen to the point of not even 
> being able to fit the case. Also, I don't have the funds to go and get it 
> replaced. so, I do what I can with what I got.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> I wonder whether your battery is causing overheating.  I had this issue on 
>> my old Macbook pro similar age as yours, and at that time a search on the 
>> internet revealed that the likely cause was the age of the battery.  I had 
>> to change it and things had improved.  Just a suggestion.
>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:23, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 
>>> vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 other 
>>> issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random crashes 
>>> of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). Also, 
>>> lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have nothing 
>>> going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't revealed the 
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> any ideas?
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 
 MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation to 
 the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of it, 
 since it is vastly different and only included with other products and 
 neither company has given credit to each other.
 
 With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, although 
 it's for various reasons.
 
 sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
 
 runs  all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they have 
 run by typing
 
 ls -al /var/log/*.out
 
 Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't 
 actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can 
 have support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved 
 states. The maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least from 
 what I can tell when looking at them including log files. The leftovers 
 are really where I gain some space back. I used to look for these manually.
 
 Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" 
 that isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with most 
 applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated files 
 around. You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob to look 
 for them, either based on a schedule or when the maintenance scripts last 
 ran. Of course, looking for those paths is easy enough to do, so it's not 
 as big of a deal, but it's still time you could spend on doing something 
 else. That's been my own experiences ever since I first started running OS 
 X, in particular with apps not from the Mac App Store. Looking through 
 /library/Application Support, it's easy to tell which apps require a bit 
 more work before all of it is gone. Of course, bottom line is that you 
 don't actually need to shell out any money for apps at all, since you can 
 do it yourself. CleanMyMac and Cocktail just make it easier. Oddly enough, 
 the article only mentions caching and logging, but not the application 
 deletion misconception. I always hear "just drag it to the trash and it's 
 gone" which just glancing at folders shows that isn't always correct. 
 Dragging .app to the trash doesn't clear associated files elsewhere. Of 
 course, with apps from the Mac App Store this shouldn't be an issue.
 
 Food for thought. CleanMyMac already does all of that, so it's fairly 
 useful if for no other reason than it automatically warns you if any 
 leftovers are still around when deleting applications. It's easy enough to 
 forget about.
 
 Nicolai
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  
> wrote:
> 
> In this case it’s actually legit and the name is merely unfortunately 
> similar to the dubious Windows program.
> 
> I still wouldn’t use it, though.  Here’s as good an explanation as any of 
> why Macs really, really don’t and shouldn’t need “cleaning”:
> http://www.thesafemac.com/the-myth-of-the-dirty-mac/
> 
> A Mac that is on 24/7 has a slight advantage here over that which is on 
> only occasionally, but not by much.  Use “sudo periodic interval” 
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Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I actually do! perform professionally locally here in Charlotte NC and 
surrounding area.  One of the things I do for a living is audio production 
work/training.  I actually have a full certification in audio engineering.

If you'd like to hear more, get with me off list, and I'd be happy to discuss 
things with you further privately.

clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: joseph hudson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?


  Hey Chris, what a good recording that even sounded really good. Now I'll just 
go I can tell you I think that you should make a point to go to Nashville and 
perform for them because as good as you are with technology you are good at 
singing to so if you are looking for new job I suggest becoming a country 
singer.

On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Actually, I use it on the mac, and it works just fine.

I'm more of a ProTools guy, but I definitely have used it on the mac.  
Here's a recording I through together.  All me singing and all me playing.  And 
before Mark kills me, yes!  I definitely have sought the copy right holder's 
permission to post this here, and she said it was totally OK for me to do so.

Again, this is a song I covered and totally arranged/recorded in my studio. 
 All me singing, and all the instruments are me as well.  All done in Reaper on 
the mac.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/Chris%20Gilland%20-%20You%27re%20Not%20Alone.wav

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Moore 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:45 PM
  Subject: Re: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?


  I made a valiant attempt but cam up well short.  I think it would require 
some major sighted assistance to get it configured for your needs.  Portions of 
the Mac app talk including menus.  Wish I had better news, but IMHO it’s a no 
go for now. 
  Chris

On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Michael Babcock  
wrote:


It was not on the website you gave me; and i have not installed that 
file the reaaccess yet; that’s only for windows and haven’t batted into win to 
install reaper yet. 
looks like reaaccess isn’t in development anymore;
but thanks for the mailing list to google; i’ll figure it out then.


Michael Babcock
Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
@payown on periscope and twitter.
http://yourownpay.com/






  On Oct 26, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Did you not find the info I told you to search for, for the Reapers 
with Peepers Mailing list?  I can't recall the subscription info.

  I wanna say:

  reapers-with-peepers-requ...@bluegrasspals.com

  Put Subscribe in the body of the message.

  I could have this wrong though.  I'd suggest Googling.

  Chris.

  - Original Message - From: "Michael Babcock" 

  To: 
  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:43 PM
  Subject: has anyone used REAPER on OS X?



  I was just wondering if anyone had any quick start guides, tips, 
or tricks for using this software with voiceover?
  best.

  Michael Babcock
  Your Blind Digital Marketing Partner.
  @payown on periscope and twitter.
  http://yourownpay.com/ 


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Looking for grocery store apps in California

[joseph hudson]

Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?
Joseph Hudson
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Skype
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Re: yosemity and the find command.

[Chris Gilland]

I can confirm that in both Yosemite, and in El Capitan both, the find command, 
VO+F works flawlessly.  I’m totally unsure why it wouldn’t be.

Chris.

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 6:59 PM, gs  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. Works fine for me but I am using El Capitan.
> 
> On Oct 28, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> When using the latest version of yosemity latest version of safari, i am 
> having trouble using the find command.
> on any pages i visit that i try doing control option f and finding a word on 
> the page i am on after i press enter nothing moves me to the desired text i 
> searched for.
> No matter if i shut off voiceover and turn it back on or even go out of 
> safari and go back in nothing corrects this for me, and no i do not have 
> quick nav enabled either can anyone help me figure this out?
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Re: yosemity and the find command.

[gs]

Hmm. Works fine for me but I am using El Capitan.

On Oct 28, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Singing Sparrow  wrote:

When using the latest version of yosemity latest version of safari, i am having 
trouble using the find command.
on any pages i visit that i try doing control option f and finding a word on 
the page i am on after i press enter nothing moves me to the desired text i 
searched for.
No matter if i shut off voiceover and turn it back on or even go out of safari 
and go back in nothing corrects this for me, and no i do not have quick nav 
enabled either can anyone help me figure this out?

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RE: Looking for grocery store apps in California

[george b]

We need to know what area

 

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On Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 15:08
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for grocery store apps in California

 

Evening folks, I trust that everyone is doing well. For the folks that live in 
California, I am looking for accessible grocery store apps for a friend. She 
knows of the Safeway app and I'm just wondering if there are any others that I 
can point her in the direction to. I told her about the Walmart app, and she 
already knew about the Walgreens app. So are there any others?

Joseph Hudson

Email

jhud7...@gmail.com  

I device support

Telephone

2543007667

Skype

joseph.hudson89 facebook

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

Twitter

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Re: Hotspots not working properly.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

I can jump to a hotspot in another application as long as I’m using the basic 
activity, not one I’ve created myself. So, I can’t jump to a hotspot in Safari 
from Mail, because I have a special Mail activity with low verbosity and other 
variations from the norm. However, I can jump to a hotspot in Safari from the 
Finder.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 26 Oct 2015, at 23:36, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> I've just read Anne's post carefully.  I am unfortunately having problems 
> with hotspots.   I set a hotspot in one application, and then launch another 
> app in which I wish to do some work.  And then wehn I want to return to the 
> application in which I had set a hotspot - I cant do so.  In the previous OS 
> releases  I used to be able to jump to a hotspot regardless whether I was in 
> the app or not, now i can't do it.  Is your experience, Anne, different? Have 
> you tried to use the hotspot from another app?  
>> On 26 Oct 2015, at 17:15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Report and report this to apple.
>> Hopefully we will get this fixed.
>> /A
>>> On 25 Oct 2015, at 22:41, gs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I have had these kinds of issues ever since I started using the Mac a 
>>> couple of years ago. I was all excited about how it would be really great 
>>> and then when it didn't work I thought it might be something I was just 
>>> doing incorrectly or not understanding. At this point I have given up 
>>> entirely upon all of it and it's really a shame that the feature(s) do(es) 
>>> not work as advertised.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can confirm this and I've written to the list about this before.  
>>> Hotspots just don't stick at all.  I had reported it in the beta testing 
>>> and I've reported it  since upgrading to El Capitan.  Please keep on 
>>> reporting it to Apple Accessibility.  It's not just on hotspot 22, it's any 
>>> hotspot I set that won't stick.  This feature is totally unusable now, and 
>>> the same goes for setting webspots.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 25 Oct 2015, at 17:38, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Before i tell apple accessibility about this i think i’d ask here first.
 I tried setting a hotspot on number 2 by pressing ctrl shift option 2.
 WHen i try to go to hotspot 2 nothing happens.
 This is on the latest el capitan on a mac mini mid 2011.
 Don’t know why its not working but it doesn’t.
 Can someone replicate this?
 Its just number 2 that doesn’t work.
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Re: Pages: Table of Contents now working properly

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jürgen,

> On 27 Oct 2015, at 11:10, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
> Did you come across the folowing issues:
> 
> • VO + j doesn’t always work reliably, especially from the formatter group 
> back to the document.
AR. Mostly, it works fine. It’s just with footnotes that it’s peculiar.

> • Normally if I’m in a certain object like table or text, VO + j jumps to the 
> formatter group where I can finde the format options for this certain type of 
> object. That doesn’t seem to work reliablly as well. I’m in a table and the 
> formatter group contains options for text formatting.

> AR. To get the Table formatting options, I have to stop interacting with the 
> table but still be focused on it. It can be a bit fiddly.


> • Just on my MacBook Air I experienced VO telling me „Pages has no window“ if 
> I jump from Pages to another app like Textedit using CMD + Tab and back to 
> Pages. Obviously Pages has open windows because if I use VO + arrow keys VO 
> reads the content followed by the sentence „Pages has no window“. If I use 
> the arrow keys on their own all I can hear is the typical error sounds of Mac 
> OS. Sound wiered I know but it happens.
> 
AR. I haven’t seen this.
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Re: clean my mac on El Capitan

[Eric Oyen]

basically, it aged. most Lithium Ion batteries start to swell a little with 
age. It also doesn't help if its left on recharge all the time. The battery for 
this white book was the original issue and started swelling about 2 years ago. 
It got to the point where it was causing random keyboard key presses. Li-ion 
batteries are known for this type of issue. They are also massively unstable 
under the right conditions (its like having a hand grenade waiting to go off).

-eric

On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> How does a battery get swollen?
>> On 28 Oct 2015, at 02:22, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> right now, I am not even running with a battery. I am using only the power 
>> supply to run this thing. the battery is swollen to the point of not even 
>> being able to fit the case. Also, I don't have the funds to go and get it 
>> replaced. so, I do what I can with what I got.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder whether your battery is causing overheating.  I had this issue on 
>>> my old Macbook pro similar age as yours, and at that time a search on the 
>>> internet revealed that the likely cause was the age of the battery.  I had 
>>> to change it and things had improved.  Just a suggestion.
 On 27 Oct 2015, at 20:23, Eric Oyen  wrote:
 
 ok. well, I haven't installed El Capitan here as yet (not sure my 2007 
 vintage whitebook would even allow it to install). THere are one or 2 
 other issues I have been having on this white book of mine (some random 
 crashes of voiceover, generally due to web page code viewed via safari). 
 Also, lately, the fan has been running all the time, even when I have 
 nothing going on the desktop. so far, looking through the logs hasn't 
 revealed the issue.
 
 any ideas?
 
 -eric
 
 On Oct 27, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
> Hi!
> 
> MacPaw actually has an offering called CleanMyPC, which has no relation 
> to the tuneup utility BitDefender provides. If it has, I'm not aware of 
> it, since it is vastly different and only included with other products 
> and neither company has given credit to each other.
> 
> With that out of the way, you can trust CleanMyMac. I own a copy, 
> although it's for various reasons.
> 
> sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
> 
> runs  all maintenance scripts at the same time. You can verify they have 
> run by typing
> 
> ls -al /var/log/*.out
> 
> Saying that, beyond doing what the maintenance scripts do, they don't 
> actually clean up application leftovers. Depending on the app, you can 
> have support files, caches, plugins, libraries, preferences, and saved 
> states. The maintenance scripts primarily deal with logging, at least 
> from what I can tell when looking at them including log files. The 
> leftovers are really where I gain some space back. I used to look for 
> these manually.
> 
> Despite that "dragging an application to the trash deletes everything" 
> that isn't true with everything. I've found that to be the case with most 
> applications I have, but I still see some that leave associated files 
> around. You aren't going to get those unless you set up a cronjob to look 
> for them, either based on a schedule or when the maintenance scripts last 
> ran. Of course, looking for those paths is easy enough to do, so it's not 
> as big of a deal, but it's still time you could spend on doing something 
> else. That's been my own experiences ever since I first started running 
> OS X, in particular with apps not from the Mac App Store. Looking through 
> /library/Application Support, it's easy to tell which apps require a bit 
> more work before all of it is gone. Of course, bottom line is that you 
> don't actually need to shell out any money for apps at all, since you can 
> do it yourself. CleanMyMac and Cocktail just make it easier. Oddly 
> enough, the article only mentions caching and logging, but not the 
> application deletion misconception. I always hear "just drag it to the 
> trash and it's gone" which just glancing at folders shows that isn't 
> always correct. Dragging .app to the trash doesn't clear associated files 
> elsewhere. Of course, with apps from the Mac App Store this shouldn't be 
> an issue.
> 
> Food for thought. CleanMyMac already does all of that, so it's fairly 
> useful if for no other reason than it automatically warns you if any 
> leftovers are still around when deleting applications. It's easy enough 
> to forget about.
> 
> Nicolai
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> In this case it’s actually legit and the name is merely unfortunately 
>> 

Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Agent086b]

Hi,
when I copy the below text and paste it into terminal where do I enter a 
password?
As per step  11.
Max.


> On 3 Oct 2015, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Well, it's that time of year, again.  
> 
> I hope you find the following information useful.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key
> 
> These are instructions on how to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key.
> 
> 1.
> Download OS X El Capitan 10.11 from the Mac App Store.  When the download
> has finished, make sure that you quit the installer rather than actually
> going through the process of upgrading over the top of your existing OS X
> installation. Make sure that the installer that downloads the El Capitan
> file is located in the /Applications folder under the name 'Install OS X El
> Capitan.app'.
> 
> 2.
> Connect a 8GB or larger USB key to your computer.  We're going to need to
> format the USB flash drive to get it into a state where it can accept the
> payload for the installation of El Capitan.
> 
> 3.
> Launch the Disk Utility application.
> 
> 4.
> Select the USB flash drive in the left sidebar.
> 
> 5.
> Click the Partition tab.
> 
> 6.
> Set the Partition Layout to 1 Partition, set the Name to Untitled, and set
> the Format to Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
> 
> 7.
> Click the Options button then choose GUID Partition Table from the popup
> window then click the OK button.
> 
> 8.
> Next click the Apply button to save your changes. When asked to confirm
> click the Partition button.
> 
> 9.
> Launch Terminal from the Applications:Utilities folder.
> 
> 10.
> Make sure your empty USB key is still inserted. Additionally, make sure you
> do not have any other volumes named Untitled except for the one we just
> created in Step eight.  Now, execute the following command in the Terminal
> window to create your OS X El Capitan Install key:
> 
> sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\
> Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled
> --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app
> --nointeraction
> 
> 11.
> Enter your Administrative account password.
> 
> 12.
> After about 15 to 30 minutes the creation of your USB Install Key for OS X
> El Capitan will be complete and you may safely remove your newly created El
> Capitan Installer key.
> 
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Re: How to make a bootable OS X El Capitan USB key

[Daniel Chavez]

The password prompt must occur before it copies files I believe.
I, too, tried to make a bootable disk of 10.11, but it never worked.

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