Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
I sold my /19 for a nice chunk of change. > On Jun 30, 2017, at 7:30 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Too bad. By the way, IPv4 addresses in North America are exhausted. > There are none to be had, and haven't been any for a couple years now,

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
I had a bunch of very cool Sparcs when I ran my ISP. Sparc 20 hardware was pretty exciting at the time. I had it loaded up with Ross processors and memory chugging away on NNTP. The coolest hardware I ever worked with from Sun was the E10K. It was so cool changing processors while the

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread afik Suffir
Command, VO key, plus shift, plus right, down, up, or left arrow. Its very annoying for me, because I use just one hand, I have a motorical problem with the other. בברכה, אפיק סופיר חבר ומייסד קבוצת ק.מ.ח - כי דברים שרואים משם לא רואים מכאן 050-5782208 afik.so...@gmail.com

Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
Button is still there in IOS 11 public beta 1. Touch to return to call is also similarly placed. > On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in > ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread afik Suffir
Hi Daniel, you have to add theshift key. For example, command+shift+vo key+down arrow/right/left arrows. בברכה, אפיק סופיר חבר ומייסד קבוצת ק.מ.ח - כי דברים שרואים משם לא רואים מכאן 050-5782208 afik.so...@gmail.com www.facebook.com/afik.sofir > ‫ב-1 ביולי 2017, בשעה 7:45, ‏‏⁨Daniel

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Caitlyn Furness
I couldn’t imagine them taking away a vital way of fiddling with your vo options! and, alas, my own mac, a mid 2010 model, will probably soon not be able to handle upcoming OS’s.. guess I better start putting money into the piggy bank.. Cait > On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:37 AM, Ray Foret jr

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
At least so far as I am aware, you are not losing your mind. Bear in mind, however, that since this here mid 2009 Mac book pro cannot handle any form of Sera, I had to wing it. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Kliphton Miller
You have to add the shift key now This will give you the options you are looking for. > On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Daniel Chavez wrote: > > Good day list, > I was wondering why, on the new High Sierra for Mac, did they take away VO > plus right arrow, so that you can

Re: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
The codes do time out depending on how long you took. I just start the process over if I’m having issues. Also make sure you line up with the first edit field. Hit OK after you enter the code and it’s successful, not before. > On Jun 30, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Harry Bell

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
+1 Ray is right on the money I think. > On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:01 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > > thanks ray, I thought maybe I was losing my mind! lol > > Cait > >> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Ray Foret jr >

Cmd-option- left arrow become crazy on iTunes some times

2017-06-30 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all: i’m now trying to use iTunes to play my music in all my daily tasks, but some times and don’t know why, when i press cmd-option- left arrow, the song keeps rewinding till it reaches the start of the track, what did i do to make this happen? and how can i stop it? and again, the

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Caitlyn Furness
thanks ray, I thought maybe I was losing my mind! lol Cait > On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > You sure you weren’t using VO+CMD+arrow keys? That’s the way you actually do > it. > > > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Um, I thought it was vo command and the arrow keys to change options like speech rate, etc? when I do vo right arrow alone, it just advances the vo cursor through wherever I happen to be.. HTH, Cait > On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Daniel Chavez wrote: > > Good day list,

Re: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Terje Strømberg
It may work starting the process from the start again i.e. find the object again and click on buy button. If memory serves, when in the first number field, you need to swipe to the right. Normally one character is swiping down. Most likely starting the process from the start will work for me in

Re: Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
You sure you weren’t using VO+CMD+arrow keys? That’s the way you actually do it. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+

Re: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
Just thought of a suggestion you might want to try. Since the code is time sensitive, you might try handling it like this. 1. Cause the code to generate and be sent to a text message to your phone. 2. Open the message. 3. Now, Make sure you are focused on where the beginning of the code

Mac OS High Sierra Voiceover Changes

2017-06-30 Thread Daniel Chavez
Good day list, I was wondering why, on the new High Sierra for Mac, did they take away VO plus right arrow, so that you can quickly change things (e.g., speech rate, volume, etc?) I don't seem to be able to use VO plus right arrow any longer to adjust those values, and was wondering how else

Re: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Harry Bell
I too tried repeatedly to enter the verification code displayed on screen but it only worked when I clicked on the link saying no access to trusted devices and then got a verification code sent to mobile phone - and it just worked! Very frustrating, I agree! Harry > On 1 Jul 2017, at 03:18,

Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten
Yes, and the dock has a whole lot more capabilities than it used to. So maybe they figure with this new fancy dock, the other thing is it so important. Admittedly, it won't work on older phones because they don't have 3D Touch. But there are more that do now than than before. I guess the iPad

Re: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Kliphton Miller
Your doing nothing wrong. The same thing happened to me. I would enter the code right after it was sent, and it locked me out of signing in to the beta site for 8 hours. I finally gave up and had sited help, went on the first try. > On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Anders Holmberg

RE: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi mary, Thanks for this. Does anyone else think this is bloody stupid considering multitasking is one of the features apple was pushing for the newer devices and os’s But I do see that the app switcher using the double tapping of the home button is still there. From:

RE: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Also Remember that the code your phone probably needs before the start of download of the profile is your phones pin code that you use when you unlock it I know that’s what mine asked for as a proof of id when installing updates. Have you tried that as a code? From:

IOS 11 Beta Earpod

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
So I thought I'd have a look at these new Earpod media instructions that have come out with IOS 11 Beta. Yes I can see great things with this except for the fact that you can only give one media instruction or feature to each of the pods, If you pick siri for the right and next track for the

RE: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread gary-melconian
I bbeg to differ with you mary on the competition not having x or y. you have not have time to play with the android o preview on the competition latform so I wonder how you can come to your conclusions on whathe completion has or does not have in their products .i don’t jump to conclusions

Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten
The impression I got from the article was that this button goes away in ios11. 11. Maybe I misunderstood what I read. I hope I did, because I use that a lot. And I'm aware of the app switcher. I'm also aware that the home button is apparently going away completely in terms of a physical

Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Chris Moore
Mary, When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in the top left corner. As far as returning to a previous app is concerned, we have an app switcher for that. Chris -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you

Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten
Well multitasking was never on the phone, right? And they're really improving it on the iPad. I guess they figure the iPad is big enough to really do it effectively. But switching apps seems like a good thing. The competition doesn't have a good way to do it either except if you Sent from my

Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Jenine Stanley
H, the 3D touch gesture where you press on the left edge of the screen to bring up app switcher still works. what doesn’t work is the 4-finger swipe to move between apps. This makes me extremely sad as I love that gesture and used it all the time. I’d be curious to know the reasoning

Help with iTunes and podcasts.

2017-06-30 Thread Stacey Robinson
I have subscribed to one podcast so far on my phone with the podcasts app from apple. How do I go into itunes on my mac and find epesodes of that podcast? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following

Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

2017-06-30 Thread Mary Otten
Well, this is from a public source. So hopefully it's OK to post here. Bummer. This and the loss of the ability to return to the previous app you were in from another app or unfortunate. I use that last feature a lot to go back to mail when I've gone to a website. I wonder why they're doing

Re: Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
IF you hav another device, you might send the code to that device and type it out on the actual phone you want to enter it in to. Remember, those verification codes are rather time sensitive so it really helps if you can send that code to another device. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Too bad. By the way, IPv4 addresses in North America are exhausted. There are none to be had, and haven't been any for a couple years now, except that someone gives up some they have. https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_countdown.html Simon Fogarty writes: > The university I work at

RE: iOS 11 adds music playback controls to Apple's AirPods - CNET

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks Mark, Might have to have a play with this laterr and see what it's like -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, 30 June 2017 12:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: iOS

RE: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
The university I work at isnt' even looking at ipv6, We've just started immplimenting a new network inferstructure and IP V 6 was demed to out of scope for this prject. -Original Message- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday,

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah it's not like they could miss the towers off in the distance. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 4:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full

Frustrating verification code issue.

2017-06-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! No matter what i do the Verification code i get when i sign in to the apple beta software seems to be wrong. I don’t know what’s up but to me it seems i am following the right steps to sign in. I have my Iphone at hand and when i sign in with my Password i get the icloud message if i would

RE: Pages book

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Ann, When will you if possible this is be putting out a manual for numbers? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 1:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pages book Hello

RE: Getting Internet Explorer Favorites in to Safari

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Brian, As a windows user I can tell you that moving favourites from IE on one machine to another can be done by going into c: then users and under the profile username and copying the favourites folder to a USB flash drive and then pasting that folder in to the same location on the other

Re: Disk Warrior

2017-06-30 Thread Marshall Scott
Hi, Folks Thanks for the information. I called Alsoft and talking to someone who didn't know anything of use, decided to take the computer to a local repair shop that deals with Apple products. Hopefully they will be able to recover much of the information on the disk. Thanks, Marshall > On

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Pete Nalda
There are only a few additions ip v6 has. Learn IPv4 and you're 75% there! ;) Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Jun 30, 2017, at 12:40 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
A simple dash may work as well. I don't know. Man, I miss Sun hardware! Can't say I miss Sun OS particularly, but they built some fun hardware in their day. Scott Granados writes: > I started using the dash flag back in the Solaris / SunOS days and have stuck > with it. I will have to try your

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Scott, the problem is that MIT has ignored 6 until very recently. I work via MIT hosted machines, a good number of which are not reachable by 6, e.g. irc.w3.org Scott Granados writes: > Wow, parts of 18.0.0.0/8 up for grabs. There’s a very simple and convincing > argument to that complainers

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
That's funny about MIT. What's actually happening is that they're finally moving to IPv6. They're among the last to adopt 6, in part because they early on acquired so much 4 space. So, this complainant is behind the times. Innovating for 4 is no longer forward thinking, imo. Janina Jonathan

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I believe we have Heinlein to thank for "grok." And, indeed, Wikipedia confirms it was "Stranger in a Strange Land." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok Gopher is gopher because it was developed at the University of Minnesota, where all the sports teams are "Gophers." And, it made a great pun

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I've never used ex or ed, but they're both related to vi, now usually vim (as in improved). Deleting files with a particular word in the filename is trivial with the rm command. And, I believe you can grep the contents of nonbinary files for a particular expresion and pipe the output to rm. I

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
Wow, parts of 18.0.0.0/8 up for grabs. There’s a very simple and convincing argument to that complainers issues with giving IP space. It’s IP v6.:) Something tells me that MIT has dual stack running very very well. Give the guy a /48 and tell him to pipe down. haha > On Jun 30, 2017, at

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Ah yes finger… I believe I used that on systems other than Unix. Certainly there is a finger protocol in addition to the who protocol on the network. So, in college I would finger users on Columbia and MIT well known public servers and then start chat sessions with them. On a slightly

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
Simon, the terrorists don’t need or care about GPS. When you’re a terrorist you’re not going for the super high tech high end solution. You’re going for the biggest bang for the smallest buck. They didn’t need GPS for 9-11, just about 20 bucks worth of box cutters. This relates back to

Re: Skype for business

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
I’m running it on the Mac and it’s working pretty well. Luckily, where I work they grant the engineers administrative access to their own laptops. Of course most of our company works with virtual desktops so I’m glad to have a real machine at all, let alone a Mac with root.:) > On Jun 30,

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
I love the grep command. I used to have a port for windows way back in the day. It’s funny some of the terms and commands, grep, grock, gopher, lynx and so on. We’ll leave finger out of it for now.;) > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:16 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
I started using the dash flag back in the Solaris / SunOS days and have stuck with it. I will have to try your method. > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Well, according to Wikipedia, it seems we're all correct: >

Podcasts on itunes

2017-06-30 Thread Stacey Robinson
Hi, I am running El Capitan with the latest version of iTunes. How do I search for podcasts? I don’t see a podcasts button. Thanks, Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all

Re: Pages book

2017-06-30 Thread Harry Bell
Ah, thank you! Regards Harry > On 30 Jun 2017, at 14:27, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Harry, > > If you look at Appendix 5, you’ll find how to get Home, End, etc on a laptop. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > >> On 30 Jun 2017, at 14:42, Harry Bell

Re: Getting Internet Explorer Favorites in to Safari

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Could Firefox or Chrome on your Macintosh import them? Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Brian Hansen wrote: > > So far, all of my Google searches have come up empty on an alternative way of > getting the favorites in to

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Actually this is a good hint at how to do advanced commands in VI. g/outahere/d will globally find every line with outta here in it and delete that line. Perhaps we need a gred command to delete all files with a word in them :-) Actually makes me remember when I was only able to see two or

Re: Getting Internet Explorer Favorites in to Safari

2017-06-30 Thread John Panarese
As far as I know and as far as I've done it for myself and other people is to export the favorites from IE and import the file. I've been told by a friend who is an IT person that you can copy the favorites folder from the Windows side and then choose the import option from Safari and select

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread -dan d.
Grep is a text search utility. If one has a person's name for example in a text file it can spot it, the result appears just above the command line. So for example: grep williams file This would return any line with "williams in the file. It is very powerful and can do much more then simple

Skype for business

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Ah, thanks for this Scott, my Windows environment has Skype for Business but my Macintosh environment is still running with Lync and I get errors on the Macintosh side overtime time I try to change the list of contacts. It appears I need to get IT to upgrade my Lync. Though they are still

Re: Pages book

2017-06-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Harry, If you look at Appendix 5, you’ll find how to get Home, End, etc on a laptop. Cheers, Anne > On 30 Jun 2017, at 14:42, Harry Bell wrote: > > Hello, Anne! > I've started reading your book and I have come across instructions to tap > VO-Home and also

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread -dan d.
It can be greatly improved by a few changes. In vo utility make all cursors follow each other. Interact with text at all times, this allows thee vo line and paragraph and speech from cursor etc. to work on the screen content. One can then also move freely on the screen with the vo arrow

Re: Pages book

2017-06-30 Thread Harry Bell
Hello, Anne! I've started reading your book and I have come across instructions to tap VO-Home and also reference to a Page Down or Page Up Key. On my MacBook 2009 I have large print stickers and no number pad: how can I find these Home, Page Down, Page Up keys? Thanks Harry > On 29 Jun 2017,

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
In what context d & o? Are we talking about a directory listing, e.g. ls -l Simon Fogarty writes: > Super user is a linux / unix boss like user, I never really understood what > the D & O are for! > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >

Re: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
My advice is to be careful. Yes, there's lots of power available in the command line tools and, yes, Apple engineers use them. The careful part is that VO is a pretty clunky screen reader for the terminal, so you're not really gaining the accessibility edge that you might reasonably expect from

Warning: Don't update the Hive App

2017-06-30 Thread Adrienne Chalmers
Hi Anyone using the British Gas Hive heating controller don’t update the app with the update released yesterday. Accessibility has been totally compromised for the second time this year. I have reported it and would encourage others to do so. Last time they took three weeks to fix it. Best

Re: IMovie with voiceover

2017-06-30 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello! Yes, yes, you can do that as well. If you establish In and out to mark the part you want to trim, you just cut it with CMD+x and it is gone. The program also has the possibility to export to different video and audio formats and keeps of course the original files. If you want help in

RE: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Super user is a linux / unix boss like user, I never really understood what the D & O are for! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, 30 June 2017 3:23 AM To:

RE: How to use terminal?

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah I don't know about anyone else but I'm starting to think I need to use terminal to carry out multiple partitioning on devices like Flash Drives and external drives, So I'm thinking the terminal command line version of disk utilities Might be the best option to do what I need to do.

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-30 Thread Michael Marshall
i love that when you dicktate on IOS 11 the keybord goes away so you don't knock letters. there is a key button on the right that you tap to go through all of them. love the new missspelled words option in the VO roter witch is also on the mac beta. > On 30 Jun 2017, at 1:42 pm, Simon Fogarty

RE: Upgrading to IOS Public beta 11

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Morning macsters, Can someone tell me how the heck to delete an app from my iPhone runnin the IOS 11 beta? I've tried the double tap and the go into edit mode but I have not been able to find the delete option or even get it to work with the current delete app function. Anyone know how you

RE: Go to meeting?

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Scott, Yeah Skype for business is now a Microsoft product formaly known as Link 2013, It ties in to the Outlook calendar and normally relies on having a skype for business server to connect to for your mmeetings / phone system to work through. I’ve been thinking of setting up my own skype

RE: file volt weirdness

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi David, Thanks for this, It would make sense as my mba is mid 2013 and the mini is 2010 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: file