Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries
Try navigating up from the bottom of the page or searching for something specific in the web page. Also try using Google Chrome rather than Safari. Marshall > On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > > > >> Could you be more specific about “navigating around the problem a

Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread Christine Grassman
This helped for about ten wonderful minutes. :) > On Aug 13, 2018, at 7:59 PM, CHUCK REICHEL > wrote: > > HI Christine, > > Heres what I do once in a while to clear sluggish VO movement & the "busy" > issue, by deleting the Caches folder. > > To empty out the Caches folder on your computer

Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread Christine Grassman
> When it happened infrequently, once a day or less, it was fine, especially > when little things like waiting a few seconds or toggling VO worked. Now it > literally happens virtually every time I use a browser to do anything of > significance. > On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:15 PM, Mike Arrigo w

Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread Mike Arrigo
I have noticed that a lot of this happens on web sites that insist on putting a bunch of frames of advertisements on them, on those sites, safari is worse than chrome, but yes, it is very annoying when it happens. > On Aug 13, 2018, at 4:49 PM, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > >

Re: Booting From Another Startup Disk

2018-08-13 Thread 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries
This is correct, but to answer the other part of the question: no, no speech here. It's too early, and the Mac has no disk from which to run any kind of speech. At least, that's how I think of it, though I'm sure Apple could fix this if they really wanted to. Don't forget you can select this in

Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-13 Thread 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries
We've all done things like that, and we all will again. I'm just glad everything is now working again. -- Alex Hall > On Aug 13, 2018, at 08:28, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Actually, Alex, you were far more helpful than you may realize. This is very > embarrassing, because I should have k

Re: How do I clear Terminal?

2018-08-13 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Sorry, this was my mistake. It’s VO-Shift-Home, or, if you’re using a MacBook keyboard with Ctrl-Option as the VO modifier, Ctrl-Option-Fn-Shift-Left-Arrow. See below for context. From: Jason White Date: Monday, August 13, 2018 at 20:28 To: Subject: Re: How do I clear Terminal? Also, VO

Re: How do I clear Terminal?

2018-08-13 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Also, VO-Home (the “go to visible beginning” command) takes you to the top of the currently visible terminal window (i.e., after the scroll-back). On a MacBook keyboard, this can be awkward to type – Ctrl-Option-FN-Left-Arrow. I suppose you could say that it adds to the argument for making Ca

Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
HI Christine, Heres what I do once in a while to clear sluggish VO movement & the "busy" issue, by deleting the Caches folder. To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up Finder first. With Voiceover on, you can press V O D, and it should default to Finder. Then

Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread Christine Grassman
> Could you be more specific about “navigating around the problem area”? > Everything freezes, and I have to wait for a few seconds up to a couple of > minutes before I hear a click and “VoiceOver on,” . . . and then if I attempt > again the task I was attempting, again, and again, and again,

Re: Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries
The only thing I can suggest is to try to navigate around the problem area. I realize this isn't of much help. The only other thing I can think of is for everyone who has this issue to call Apple Accessibility every time it happens. Unfortunately, this might have undesirable consequences in t

Absolutely at my wit's end with web browser busy nonsense

2018-08-13 Thread Christine Grassman
I have tried everything: cleaning out unnecessary files, doing a disk utility first aid check, PRAM and SMC, numerous reboots: no matter what web browser I use, no matter how close to my router I am, no matter what I do, whenever I perform searches, try to fill anything out, read through heading

Re: help with Lyft app

2018-08-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Got it. As always, thanks, Jonathan. I didn't even know a help site existed. that's handy! Cheers, Donna > On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > Donna, > > I believe XP is 6 passengers and Lyft mode is 4 passengers. Descriptions are > at: > https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/

Re: attaching files again

2018-08-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
If you were asking how to navigate with threats, that depends on whether you have conversation with you on or off in your mail application. If you have a conversation in a separate window, then by stop interacting enough times (usually twice) you can move by message using VoiceOver previous and nex

Re: How do I clear Terminal?

2018-08-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Actually, the buffer is what vo cursor keys see. There is also the shell history which stores the last N commands. The size of this history can be set in your bashrc files. If you use arrow keys without the VO modifier and you are on the [myname] prompt you can review and edit prior commands. This

Re: Booting From Another Startup Disk

2018-08-13 Thread matthew dyer
Brandon, Yes. While booting, hold the option key to bring up target disk mode. Left arrow once to select the startup disk and press enter. If all goes well it should boot. Hth. On August 13, 2018 11:05:12 AM "Brandon A. Olivares" wrote: > Is it possible to accessibly select another startup d

Re: help with Lyft app

2018-08-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Donna, I believe XP is 6 passengers and Lyft mode is 4 passengers. Descriptions are at: https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012927427-Lyft-ride-modes-overview for changing the work/home shortcuts I found an edit button one swipe after the address listed. HTH Jonathan Cohn On Sun, Aug 12

Re: How do I clear Terminal?

2018-08-13 Thread dan d.
The terminal has a buffer wich stores previous commands for reuse if desired. Using arrow up will revisit those commands in reverse order. This can be cleared by cmd+k and/or cmd+option+k. The second is more extensive. There will be a vo announcement of the outcome. When in terminal from the

Booting From Another Startup Disk

2018-08-13 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Is it possible to accessibly select another startup disk when booting? I know in some modes there's a limited version of Voiceover. Is this one of them? Brandon -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about t

Re: Comment: First impressions after nearly a month with Apple's 2018 13-inch MacBook Pro, 9 to 5 Mac

2018-08-13 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
Well, I care about sound and functionality, but you’re right otherwise. Sound quality and 3D/surround sound is a big thing for me. > On Aug 13, 2018, at 6:12 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote: > > No wonder some sighted people are so shallow. All they care about is the > damn screen! We tend to car

Re: help with Lyft app

2018-08-13 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Mike, The app is extremely accessible. I haven't yet found anything that you can't do using VO, I think the work address issue isn't an accessibility issue, I think it's just that I can't figure out how to do it. Cheers, Donna > On Aug 13, 2018, at 7:49 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Hello D

Re: help with Lyft app

2018-08-13 Thread Michael Busboom
Hello Donna, Although I cannot answer your question, IK would like to thank you for posting it. I was under the impression that Lyft was not VO friendly. Now, all I need to do is find out whether or not Lyft is available here in Austria. Thanks again for your posting, and I hope that someon

Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-13 Thread Michael Busboom
Actually, Alex, you were far more helpful than you may realize. This is very embarrassing, because I should have known better. The problem was with me, not VoiceOver or my MacBook Pro. The mistake I repeatedly made was that I had not stopped interacting with the body of the message so actual

Re: attaching files again

2018-08-13 Thread Pavel Yefetov
how to navegate in threds inmail on mac with voice over . pavlo yefetov > 31 июля 2018 г., в 22:19, Jonathan Cohn написал(а): > > I’m sorry, but once again I am not sure what you are asking. Your subject > does not appear to match your message. > >> On Jul 31, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Pavel Yefet

Re: Comment: First impressions after nearly a month with Apple's 2018 13-inch MacBook Pro, 9 to 5 Mac

2018-08-13 Thread Raymond Foret Jr
No wonder some sighted people are so shallow. All they care about is the damn screen! We tend to care about actual functionality. Is it any wonder they’re such dunderheads? Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind: Sincerely, The constantly barefooted R