Re: From Mark to the List, Just a General Apple Accessibility Gravity Check-in

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi there,
this is a fine post, but I have to point out, based on my current 
situation,  that speaking personally starting as a brand new user seems 
less  effortless than I anticipated.
To be sure, I ended up with the machine just above the machine I actually 
wanted for this new adventure.

Not having a cd drive alone can make me crazy.
I had no idea that the off line user guides I anticipated would not exist, 
at all, for Catalina, leaving me wondering how, and I admit why separate 
guides are gone.
Feels rather like saying, we are going to teach you to swim by dropping 
you in the middle of the pool...good luck.
I am sure, i will eventually reach my desired effortlessness, but, I 
shutter to think how individuals, most to be sure, who are not going to 
locate lists at all feel empowered by the prospect of taking on  all the 
wonderful  options available when getting down the basics in a learn as 
you go without the risk of changing something by mistake  is so  real.

just my thoughts,
kare



On Sun, 7 Aug 2022, M. Taylor wrote:


Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to check in with everyone and wish you all a happy Apple
accessibility summer.  I cannot believe that August 2022 is already
underway.

You know, it's kind of funny, I use my Apple devices more and more and yet I
have less and less to say about them as they continue to get better and
better.  (smile)

A few things that I have been intending to post but have not:

1.
In addition to my wired EarPods, I now use both AirPods, third gen, and
Airpods Pro, on a regular basis.  While I would have to say that my Airpods
Pro offer better sound quality, I like the Airpods third gen, because they
offer an easier / lighter listening experience.  I know that sounds crazy
but, for me, it is true.

2.
My poor old 8 Plus is truly on its last legs.  The lightening port can no
longer hold a cable, unassisted.  This is to say, in order for me to keep a
cable inserted, the phone must be on a horizontal plain or the cable will
fall out.  I do use a wireless charger with it but .  I am going to try to
make it last until the next iPhone release which, hopefully, will offer some
form of touch ID.  However, If touch ID is not included in the next release
I will either purchase the biggest best new phone or I will get an S E.  One
way or another, my beloved 8 Plus is on its way out (smile.)

3.
My iPad 10.5 2017 is going strong; it runs like a champ. However, I am
definitely going to get a new MacBook Pro after I purchase my next iPhone.
I have a MacBook Air, M1, in the house but I really don't like the fact that
it automatically powers on at the touch of any key. This is quite annoying.

4.
As for software?  I find that I am using fewer and fewer apps.  I am not
sure why.

All of the apps that allow me to easily manage my finances continue to be my
favorite apps, of course.  However the Amazon apps continue to be at the top
of my must have list.  I noticed some kind of a glitch between VoiceOver and
Alexa on an iPhone 11, the other day.  Interesting as this glitch does not
occur on my beloved 8 Plus.  My solution?  Delete and then reinstall the
Alexa app.

Pill Reminder, My Chart, CA Lottery, and Yelp also head-up my favorite apps
list, these days.  Of course, I am omitting all of the native Apple apps as
their significance to my accessible life is unparalleled

While I continue to be a big fan of Twitter, for some reason, the app, and
the service itself, for that matter, feel less streamline and unencumbered,
these days.  Just my opinion, of course.

Uber, Lift, and Insta Cart are amazing, as always.

And of course, all of the book reading apps remain dear to my heart.

While I would love to list some games that I enjoy on either iOS or iPad OS,
alas, I cannot.  I do not know of any onboard (not requiring an internet
connection) VoiceOver accessible card games and / or board games; a sad
reality, to be sure.

All replies to this post are welcome and, in fact, greatly appreciated.

I hope this finds you all happy and well.

Mark


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Re: change language on a mac

[mattias]

i allready have 2 languages. swedish and english. swedish are primary

Den 2022-08-17 kl. 02:14, skrev Jonathan Cohn:

Hello,
 The below process should work:
1. Open System Preferences
2. Open the Language and Region page
3. Press VO-command-T to move to the table of selected languages.
4. Press VO-downArrow you should now land on "Add a preferred language 
button".


Press this button and there will be a search field to find a language. 
Once you select add to add a selected language you will get prompts 
for if you want that language as your primary and perhaps a prompt 
asking you to select a input method for the language you just selected.


You  can also find the "Add a preferred language button" button by 
using VO-Left, but first you have to review all the number and 
currency settings.

 "

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




On Aug 16, 2022, at 7:36 PM, mattias  wrote:

system language

Den 2022-08-17 kl. 00:20, skrev Jonathan Cohn:

Hello,
Not sure which language area you are talking about. Output or Input 
System or VoiceOver.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




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why are this not possible for a blind user?

you can see the language list but not change the list

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Re: putting music in an iPhone

[Herbie Allen]

A camera adapter where you can plug in a flash drive would be one way. It works 
through the Files app.

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putting music in an iPhone

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Is there any way to put music or podcasts into an iPhone without going through 
iTunes?

I heard about a little device you can buy to put an sd card in to connect it to 
an iPhone. if I did this would it work without an app?

thanks.
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Re: change language on a mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
 The below process should work:
1. Open System Preferences 
2. Open the Language and Region page 
3. Press VO-command-T to move to the table of selected languages.
4. Press VO-downArrow you should now land on "Add a preferred language button".

Press this button and there will be a search field to find a language. Once you 
select add to add a selected language you will get prompts for if you want that 
language as your primary and perhaps a prompt asking you to select a input 
method for the language you just selected.

You  can also find the "Add a preferred language button" button by using 
VO-Left, but first you have to review all the number and currency settings.
 "
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 16, 2022, at 7:36 PM, mattias  wrote:
> 
> system language
> 
> Den 2022-08-17 kl. 00:20, skrev Jonathan Cohn:
>> Hello,
>> Not sure which language area you are talking about. Output or Input System 
>> or VoiceOver.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2022, at 13:29, mattias >> > wrote:
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Re: change language on a mac

[mattias]

system language

Den 2022-08-17 kl. 00:20, skrev Jonathan Cohn:

Hello,
Not sure which language area you are talking about. Output or Input 
System or VoiceOver.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




On Aug 16, 2022, at 13:29, mattias  wrote:

why are this not possible for a blind user?

you can see the language list but not change the list

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Re: mac vps

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>From a quick google it sounds like your "Mac VPS" is some kind of Macintosh in 
>the cloud implementation. Generally, you should be able to get VoiceOver 
>running o remote device, but sound would need to be transmitted over the 
>virtual channel and also generally the command-F5 will be intercepted by your 
>local Mac, and I don't know if the bypass key "tab" will work. Of course there 
>are other ways to turn on VoiceOver like system preferences Accessibility. 
 
Best wishes,

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> i resend this because i dont know if the message actually come fro
> 
> if i have an maac vps
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> can i use voiceover on that vps?
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Re: change language on a mac

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
Not sure which language area you are talking about. Output or Input System or 
VoiceOver.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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Re: Upcoming Iphones

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On 14/8/22 15:18, Brad Snyder wrote:

Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.


I agree. I am very satisfied with my iPhone XS, so I'll probably wait at 
least another year or two before upgrading.


I'm sure 5G would be better, and it's available where I live, but I'm 
not outside using mobile data enough to notice.


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Re: iPhone apple music playlist name

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Hello,

Seems you have to navigate by touch for this one. 
Double tap the play list.
Find the "more" button in the top right of the screen, and tap it.
Find the Edit button in the list that comes up.
Below the Picture you should find two text areas both of these are editable one 
says the name of the play list followed by the word text. If you double tap on 
this you should be able to edit the playlist name.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Hi,
> In creating a new playlist using the iPhone, by default the first track 
> chosen becomes the name of the playlist. I cannot figure out how to 
> manipulate this edit field to choose the name I want.
> Can this be done, or naming is only by way of the mac?
> Thanks.
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Re: Braille and apple products.

[Jonathan Cohn]

There is a verbosity area of Macintosh voiceover that includes a braille tab. 
Setting this verbosity to low prevents headers from being brailled and probably 
does a few other things also. 
My complaint with braille is that often when I use a braille display and try 
and go back in and correct a misspelling, the editor ends up duplicating the 
word with the misspelling in it.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> Hi!
> I am a bit intrested in this regarding braillee and Ios.
> I am tired  of the way things are presented sometimes.
> Why can’t apple stop printing out things on the braille display that’s not 
> needed or shorten things down.
> THey’re printing out all the things that the speech say.
> This is not the case in any Windows screenReader or not even in orca.
> Its more  of a drag to use braille on the Mac than on the linux or or windows.
> I am not saying I  dislike or like any operating system and I don’t want to 
> start a battle between operating systems.
> I am just saying that I am very tired when it comes to braille in both Mac 
> and iOS.
> It works of corse and it can be used but its more of a struggle than on lets 
> say windows or linux.
> My problem is that I can’t really explain what I really want in English.
> SO 9i am not sure on how to bring feedback on this.
> 
>> 14 aug. 2022 kl. 23:32 skrev Jack Zimmerman :
>> 
>> Well since Android braille has improved so much I'm going to be trying that 
>> again. Tried it with a kendle and a chromebook was NOT at all imrressed with 
>> either but I do understand things have got much better since then. Tired of 
>> IOS. Braille. It's fine  for reading but editing is a true CHORE!! 
>> 
>> Jack and BECKY  :-)  
>> sent  from  our  iPhingers 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>>    Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by 
>>> surprise. I suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read 
>>> what users say about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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>>> 
 On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
 The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
 iPhone.
 Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
 iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current 
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 - Brad -
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 read anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being 
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 If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for 
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iPhone apple music playlist name

[Patrick Ford]

Hi,
In creating a new playlist using the iPhone, by default the first track chosen 
becomes the name of the playlist. I cannot figure out how to manipulate this 
edit field to choose the name I want.
Can this be done, or naming is only by way of the mac?
Thanks.
Patrick 

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Re: mac vps

[joseph hudson]

I know nothing about that one of the other guys would have to help you with 
that.

> On Aug 16, 2022, at 12:42 PM, mattias  wrote:
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> yes i know that
> 
> seems you can access the vps via something called apple remote desktop
> 
> Den 2022-08-16 kl. 19:33, skrev joseph hudson:
>> All Max have voiceover on them. The command to turn it on is command at five
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2022, at 12:32 PM, mattias  wrote:
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>>> i resend this because i dont know if the message actually come fro
>>> 
>>> if i have an maac vps
>>> 
>>> can i use voiceover on that vps?
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Re: mac vps

[mattias]

yes i know that

seems you can access the vps via something called apple remote desktop

Den 2022-08-16 kl. 19:33, skrev joseph hudson:

All Max have voiceover on them. The command to turn it on is command at five


On Aug 16, 2022, at 12:32 PM, mattias  wrote:

i resend this because i dont know if the message actually come fro

if i have an maac vps

can i use voiceover on that vps?

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Re: mac vps

[joseph hudson]

All Max have voiceover on them. The command to turn it on is command at five

> On Aug 16, 2022, at 12:32 PM, mattias  wrote:
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mac vps

[mattias]

i resend this because i dont know if the message actually come fro

if i have an maac vps

can i use voiceover on that vps?

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change language on a mac

[mattias]

why are this not possible for a blind user?

you can see the language list but not change the list

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Re: Kobo books app for iphone accessibility

[Karen Lewellen]

regardless of the solution, this error should be reported to kobo customer 
service.




On Tue, 16 Aug 2022, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

I have again tried the Kobo books app for iphone and although I can open a book 
previously purchased, I don’t know how to move from page to page.  Is there a 
voiceover passthrough gesture that would allow me to perform a swipe to change 
pages as the app suggests a sighted user might do to advance through the pages? 
 Otherwise, I can’t seem to be able to read using Kobo books app.  There’s no 
continual reading ability either.

Any tips?

Andrew

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Kobo books app for iphone accessibility

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I have again tried the Kobo books app for iphone and although I can open a book 
previously purchased, I don’t know how to move from page to page.  Is there a 
voiceover passthrough gesture that would allow me to perform a swipe to change 
pages as the app suggests a sighted user might do to advance through the pages? 
 Otherwise, I can’t seem to be able to read using Kobo books app.  There’s no 
continual reading ability either.

Any tips?

Andrew 

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