Re: Accessible password managers

[Terje Strømberg]

Yeah it sad that it seems like phones and computers has worse accessability 
compatibility .strange. Should not be an issue in 2023.

Dropbox has a password manager that is called passwords. However, i only use 
the copy password function. It may not be up to the task in auto fill in 
passwords.  As a side note Drop Box is still accessible. Also the free dns 
nextdns.com and the free vpn 1 user tailscale.com

Shannon morse youtuber is absolutely not blind, but have some nice reviews of 
password manager and other stuff.

Many thanks



> 15. mar. 2023 kl. 04:10 skrev lenron brown :
> 
> I don't remember having to interact when putting in a password before,
> but this seems to be a problem in the latest os. Part of me wishes I
> could downgrade, but that would make me have to reinstall a bunch wich
> I am not willing to do.
> 
>> On 3/14/23, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Yes but its very sad that things don’t go forward.
>> It might be that they do not prioritize it.
>> /A
>> 
 14 mars 2023 kl. 21:32 skrev Herbie Allen :
>>> 
>>> From a completely VO prospective, I don’t find much change in things like
>>> web pages and apps in general. That is unfortunate they are ot working in
>>> Braille, but that has always been buggy with the mac.
>>> 
 On Mar 14, 2023, at 14:13, Anders Holmberg 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Its not only apps that has gone worse.
 Webpages has been harder to use to.
 I have to just take things quite slow now a days to understand how a page
 works.
 Especially with braille.
 And Ventura is absolutely not very good when using braille.
 /A
 
> 14 mars 2023 kl. 00:01 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
> :
> 
> I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers
> but I find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in
> the end makes me so sick.
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps
>> are becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before
>> Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to
>> sit down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send
>> as feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was
>> simpler. :)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi E.T.
>>> Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I
>>> used to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the
>>> accessibility due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see
>>> themselves implementing new features that actually put us visually
>>> impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but
>>> recently I seem to be spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted
>>> person could achieve in seconds.  This is just not good enough.
>>> Andrew
 On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
  I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many
 benefits aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 
 On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people
> find easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been
> using 1password for many years but following their continuous
> development - as is often the case - I’m finding their app more and
> more difficult to use.
> Andrew
 
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Re: Accessible password managers

[lenron brown]

I don't remember having to interact when putting in a password before,
but this seems to be a problem in the latest os. Part of me wishes I
could downgrade, but that would make me have to reinstall a bunch wich
I am not willing to do.

On 3/14/23, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> Yes but its very sad that things don’t go forward.
> It might be that they do not prioritize it.
> /A
>
>> 14 mars 2023 kl. 21:32 skrev Herbie Allen :
>>
>> From a completely VO prospective, I don’t find much change in things like
>> web pages and apps in general. That is unfortunate they are ot working in
>> Braille, but that has always been buggy with the mac.
>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2023, at 14:13, Anders Holmberg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> Its not only apps that has gone worse.
>>> Webpages has been harder to use to.
>>> I have to just take things quite slow now a days to understand how a page
>>> works.
>>> Especially with braille.
>>> And Ventura is absolutely not very good when using braille.
>>> /A
>>>
 14 mars 2023 kl. 00:01 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
 :

 I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers
 but I find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in
 the end makes me so sick.

 Andrew

> On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps
> are becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before
> Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to
> sit down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send
> as feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was
> simpler. :)
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>
> On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi E.T.
>> Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I
>> used to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the
>> accessibility due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see
>> themselves implementing new features that actually put us visually
>> impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but
>> recently I seem to be spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted
>> person could achieve in seconds.  This is just not good enough.
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many
>>> benefits aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people
 find easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been
 using 1password for many years but following their continuous
 development - as is often the case - I’m finding their app more and
 more difficult to use.
 Andrew
>>>
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Re: Accessible password managers

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes but its very sad that things don’t go forward.
It might be that they do not prioritize it.
/A

> 14 mars 2023 kl. 21:32 skrev Herbie Allen :
> 
> From a completely VO prospective, I don’t find much change in things like web 
> pages and apps in general. That is unfortunate they are ot working in 
> Braille, but that has always been buggy with the mac.
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2023, at 14:13, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Its not only apps that has gone worse.
>> Webpages has been harder to use to.
>> I have to just take things quite slow now a days to understand how a page 
>> works.
>> Especially with braille.
>> And Ventura is absolutely not very good when using braille.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 14 mars 2023 kl. 00:01 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers but 
>>> I find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in the end 
>>> makes me so sick.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
 On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Andrew,
  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps are 
 becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before 
 Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to sit 
 down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send as 
 feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was simpler. 
 :)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 
 On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi E.T.
> Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I 
> used to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the 
> accessibility due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see 
> themselves implementing new features that actually put us visually 
> impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but 
> recently I seem to be spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted 
> person could achieve in seconds.  This is just not good enough.
> Andrew
>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many benefits 
>> aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people 
>>> find easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 
>>> 1password for many years but following their continuous development - 
>>> as is often the case - I’m finding their app more and more difficult to 
>>> use.
>>> Andrew
>> 
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Re: Accessible password managers

[Herbie Allen]

>From a completely VO prospective, I don’t find much change in things like web 
>pages and apps in general. That is unfortunate they are ot working in Braille, 
>but that has always been buggy with the mac.

> On Mar 14, 2023, at 14:13, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Its not only apps that has gone worse.
> Webpages has been harder to use to.
> I have to just take things quite slow now a days to understand how a page 
> works.
> Especially with braille.
> And Ventura is absolutely not very good when using braille.
> /A
> 
>> 14 mars 2023 kl. 00:01 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers but 
>> I find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in the end 
>> makes me so sick.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>>  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps are 
>>> becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before 
>>> Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to sit 
>>> down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send as 
>>> feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was simpler. 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi E.T.
 Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I used 
 to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the accessibility 
 due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see themselves 
 implementing new features that actually put us visually impaired ppl at a 
 disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but recently I seem to be 
 spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted person could achieve in 
 seconds.  This is just not good enough.
 Andrew
> On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many benefits 
> aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> 
> On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find 
>> easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 
>> 1password for many years but following their continuous development - as 
>> is often the case - I’m finding their app more and more difficult to use.
>> Andrew
> 
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Re: Accessible password managers

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Its not only apps that has gone worse.
Webpages has been harder to use to.
I have to just take things quite slow now a days to understand how a page works.
Especially with braille.
And Ventura is absolutely not very good when using braille.
/A

> 14 mars 2023 kl. 00:01 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers but I 
> find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in the end makes 
> me so sick.
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew,
>>  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps are 
>> becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before Ventura. 
>> The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to sit down and 
>> focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send as feedback. 
>> Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was simpler. :)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi E.T.
>>> Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I used 
>>> to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the accessibility due 
>>> to the usual competition pressure & the need to see themselves implementing 
>>> new features that actually put us visually impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  
>>> I’ve been very patient I feel but recently I seem to be spending hours 
>>> trying to achieve what a sighted person could achieve in seconds.  This is 
>>> just not good enough.
>>> Andrew
 On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many benefits 
 aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 
 
 On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find 
> easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 
> 1password for many years but following their continuous development - as 
> is often the case - I’m finding their app more and more difficult to use.
> Andrew
 
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Re: Accessible password managers

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

  You are spot on, I could not sum it up so well. Take Ventura, the 
change from System Preferences to System Settings. The former was so 
easy to work in. The latter not in the least.


   I cancelled Apple TV+ because I could not put the effort into it. 
And recently I deleted a text editing app because it kept harassing me 
to subscribe. It used to be perfect for my needs. And I just cancelled 
another app because I am wasting money. Want to share notes on !Password?


   Life in the digital age. Good grief Charlie Brown. :)

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/13/2023 4:01 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers 
but I find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in 
the end makes me so sick.


Andrew

On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Andrew,
 I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps 
are becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler 
before Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I 
need to sit down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes 
then send as feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when 
life was simpler. :)


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi E.T.
Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I 
used to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the 
accessibility due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see 
themselves implementing new features that actually put us visually 
impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but 
recently I seem to be spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted 
person could achieve in seconds.  This is just not good enough.

Andrew
On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many 
benefits aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>


On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people 
find easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been 
using 1password for many years but following their continuous 
development - as is often the case - I’m finding their app more and 
more difficult to use.

Andrew


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Re: Accessible password managers

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

I sadly echo your sentiment.  I’m trying to communicate with developers but I 
find that i spend most of my time managing technology, which in the end makes 
me so sick.

Andrew

> On 13 Mar 2023, at 22:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
>  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps are 
> becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before Ventura. 
> The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to sit down and 
> focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send as feedback. 
> Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was simpler. :)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi E.T.
>> Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I used 
>> to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the accessibility due 
>> to the usual competition pressure & the need to see themselves implementing 
>> new features that actually put us visually impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  
>> I’ve been very patient I feel but recently I seem to be spending hours 
>> trying to achieve what a sighted person could achieve in seconds.  This is 
>> just not good enough.
>> Andrew
>>> On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many benefits 
>>> aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
>>> 
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>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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>>> On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find 
 easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 
 1password for many years but following their continuous development - as 
 is often the case - I’m finding their app more and more difficult to use.
 Andrew
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Re: Accessible password managers

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Andrew,
  I hear you. Its frustrating.But I am finding that more and more apps 
are becoming less easy to use. Same with macOS which was simpler before 
Ventura. The UI interface is changing and that may be why. I need to sit 
down and focus on some apps like 1Passwird and take notes then send as 
feedback. Sometimes I yearn for the "good ol' days" when life was 
simpler. :)


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On 3/13/2023 3:00 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi E.T.

Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I 
used to love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the 
accessibility due to the usual competition pressure & the need to see 
themselves implementing new features that actually put us visually 
impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  I’ve been very patient I feel but 
recently I seem to be spending hours trying to achieve what a sighted 
person could achieve in seconds.  This is just not good enough.


Andrew

On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many 
benefits aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people 
find easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been 
using 1password for many years but following their continuous 
development - as is often the case - I’m finding their app more and 
more difficult to use.

Andrew


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Re: Accessible password managers

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi E.T.

Yes, I have sent them feedback, waiting for their response.  whilst I used to 
love it, I’m beginning to worry they’re neglecting the accessibility due to the 
usual competition pressure & the need to see themselves implementing new 
features that actually put us visually impaired ppl at a disadvantage.  I’ve 
been very patient I feel but recently I seem to be spending hours trying to 
achieve what a sighted person could achieve in seconds.  This is just not good 
enough.

Andrew 

> On 13 Mar 2023, at 00:28, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many benefits aside 
> from storing passwords. Send them feedback.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find 
>> easily accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password 
>> for many years but following their continuous development - as is often the 
>> case - I’m finding their app more and more difficult to use.
>> Andrew
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Re: Accessible password managers

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I don't disagree but I think the 1Password app provides many 
benefits aside from storing passwords. Send them feedback.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 3/12/2023 2:27 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
finding their app more and more difficult to use.

Andrew



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Re: Accessible password managers

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

Apple’s own password manager is very accessible on Apple hardware. There is a 
version for Windows as well, but I haven’t experimented with it.
As far as I know, there is no Linux version.
I’ve read favorable comments elsewhere about BitWarden, but I haven’t installed 
it.

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Date: Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 17:27
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Accessible password managers
Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
finding their app more and more difficult to use.

Andrew

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Re: Accessible password managers

[Steve Matzura]

I haven't tried this on other platforms than MacOS, but Bit Warden 
 looks pretty good. I just have a fundamental 
objection to subscriptionware and storing a password container in the 
cloud. That's one of the reasons I've stuck with 1Password version 4 for 
as long as I have. I paid for it once and I can put my password vault 
anywhere ai like, on any device, and it need never see the cloud.



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I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
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Andrew



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Accessible password managers

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Hi,

I’m wondering what other password managers besides 1password people find easily 
accessible on Mac, iOS & Android/windows?  I’ve been using 1password for many 
years but following their continuous development - as is often the case - I’m 
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