Re: Ios10 and accessibility
I just tried using a brailliant display on mail with ios10 update and it worked fine. Peggy and Dixie Marie Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: Hi, I don’t make that claim I have no idea whether braille will work well but I will try it now that you mention it. I am not normally a braille user but I do have a display to test. Maybe someone has a more informed opinion. My complaints are generally about the mail app and voice over. Not that it’s unusable but I just feel the interface now is more clumsy. I’ve spoken to a few who dislike the new mail setup from a voice over perspective. > On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Scott. How are you? I read braille, but I don't use it so much with my > Iphone, only sometimes! However, my boyfriend is a braille user to his iPhone > since he is deafblind. I really want him to get IOS 10. Why do you say it wil > not work with the mail app? H euse that a lot with his focus 14 display. I > know you are nto allow to mention it before he release, but do you have any > ideas why it may not work yet. I look forward in hearing from you soon. > Thanks and God bless! > > Helga Schreiber > Group Moderator > > for the IPad help for the blind > > ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io > > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind > Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever > believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 > Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.5 > >> On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you're a braille display user and use the Mail app heavily, I'd >> hold off on updating. More details to follow on release day. >> >> Scott >> >>> On 9/9/16, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> Not for my Bose AE 2 wireless. >>> But i think this is more a Bose problem than an Apple one. >>> I am not sure how to update the firmware on my Bose headphones. >>> /A >>>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Update with out hesitation, it’s a great release. It fixes a lot of the >>>> audio routing problems as well at least the ones I was having so well >>>> worth it in my case and I feel it will be for others as well. >>>> >>>> The mac OSX release is also very very good. Update em if you got em. >>>> >>>> For what it’s worth, this is the best software release Apple has done post >>>> Jobs in my opinion. Not necessarily for features but more for stability >>>> and just a good all around solid release with fewer bugs than previous >>>> whole number updates. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot >>>>> to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>>>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>>>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well >>>>>> as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang >>>>>> in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>> >>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re
RE: Ios10 and accessibility
Yes I agree, I beleave Jobbs words were along the lines of they’d have to provide sandpaper to people buying the larger screans to allow them to make their fingers smaller Oh well where would we be without the iPad. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 7:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Oh I don’t know Simon, the larger screens was a direct deviation from the Steve Jobs vision. As I recall he was dead set against the larger screens. I do agree though but with or with out steve, the phone was eventually destined to become an evolutionary product instead of a revolutionary product. We’re at that phase now where it gets incrementally better but the idea is still the same. Wonder what the 10 year phone next year will be. I can’t imagine it being revolutionary but we will see. On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:07 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Also, Steve jobs was the key behind the new ideas. Realistically what has changed on the iPhone since Jobbs died? There really has been nothing outstanding with its design or configuration since it origionally came out From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016 1:14 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Mary, well said and so true. We used to have no idea what was coming out until much closer to the events. Anybody remember the cell phones apple left around the bay area to create publicity? The first was a legitimate mistake where an engineer left his phone in a bar and it wasn’t out yet. The next year that happened though was faked / staged. Now you have a picture of the new phone almost as soon as the present model is released. Great point Mary. On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts now than there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware surprises were there? Not many. And that has been true for the last several presentations. Leaks are all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes some of the "wow" factor out. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: Hi! I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. It was more like a show than a presentation. /A On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. >From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com<mailto:kc5...@gmail.com><mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Bein
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gt;>> supposed to be this NDA hush-hush. But everything is all over the >>>>>> mainstream press. The only exception is access ability, because the >>>>>> mainstream doesn't care about it. And we're not supposed to talk about >>>>>> it, because some people still think there's an actual NDA in effect. It >>>>>> only affects us. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary, well said and so true. We used to have no idea what was coming >>>>>>> out until much closer to the events. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anybody remember the cell phones apple left around the bay area to >>>>>>> create publicity? The first was a legitimate mistake where an >>>>>>> engineer left his phone in a bar and it wasn’t out yet. The next year >>>>>>> that happened though was faked / staged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now you have a picture of the new phone almost as soon as the present >>>>>>> model is released. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great point Mary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big >>>>>>>> difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts >>>>>>>> now than there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware >>>>>>>> surprises were there? Not many. And that has been true for the last >>>>>>>> several presentations. Leaks are all over the place in the tech press >>>>>>>> these days. It kind of takes some of the "wow" factor out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple >>>>>>>>> presentations used to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he >>>>>>>>> was a much better showman let’s put it that way. I was listening to >>>>>>>>> a discussion on Fox Business the other day how they were lamenting >>>>>>>>> the loss of the jobs era events. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release >>>>>>>>> day. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>>> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will >>>>>>>>>> anymore. >>>>>>>>>> It was more like a show than a presentation. >>>>>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and >>>>>>>>>>> prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump >>>>>>>>>>> right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icl
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Hi, I don’t make that claim I have no idea whether braille will work well but I will try it now that you mention it. I am not normally a braille user but I do have a display to test. Maybe someone has a more informed opinion. My complaints are generally about the mail app and voice over. Not that it’s unusable but I just feel the interface now is more clumsy. I’ve spoken to a few who dislike the new mail setup from a voice over perspective. > On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Scott. How are you? I read braille, but I don't use it so much with my > Iphone, only sometimes! However, my boyfriend is a braille user to his iPhone > since he is deafblind. I really want him to get IOS 10. Why do you say it wil > not work with the mail app? H euse that a lot with his focus 14 display. I > know you are nto allow to mention it before he release, but do you have any > ideas why it may not work yet. I look forward in hearing from you soon. > Thanks and God bless! > > Helga Schreiber > Group Moderator > > for the IPad help for the blind > > ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io > <mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io> > > Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind > Students. > Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). > Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. > Phone: (561) 706-5950 > Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> > Skype: helga.schreiber26 > 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as > <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px > INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> > > "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever > believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 > Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.5 > > On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com > <mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> If you're a braille display user and use the Mail app heavily, I'd >> hold off on updating. More details to follow on release day. >> >> Scott >> >> On 9/9/16, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> Not for my Bose AE 2 wireless. >>> But i think this is more a Bose problem than an Apple one. >>> I am not sure how to update the firmware on my Bose headphones. >>> /A >>>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Update with out hesitation, it’s a great release. It fixes a lot of the >>>> audio routing problems as well at least the ones I was having so well >>>> worth it in my case and I feel it will be for others as well. >>>> >>>> The mac OSX release is also very very good. Update em if you got em. >>>> >>>> For what it’s worth, this is the best software release Apple has done post >>>> Jobs in my opinion. Not necessarily for features but more for stability >>>> and just a good all around solid release with fewer bugs than previous >>>> whole number updates. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot >>>>> to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>>>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>>>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well >>>>>> as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang >>>>>> in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>> >>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk"
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re all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes some of the "wow" factor out. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: Hi! I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. It was more like a show than a presentation. /A On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is im
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
t; in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>>>> But the truth is, >>>>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>>>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson >>>>>>>>>>> <stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>>>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big >>>>>> difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts >>>>>> now than there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware >>>>>> surprises were there? Not many. And that has been true for the last >>>>>> several presentations. Leaks are all over the place in the tech press >>>>>> these days. It kind of takes some of the "wow" factor out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple >>>>>>> presentations used to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he >>>>>>> was a much better showman let’s put it that way. I was listening to >>>>>>> a discussion on Fox Business the other day how they were lamenting >>>>>>> the loss of the jobs era events. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>>>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will >>>>>>>> anymore. >>>>>>>> It was more like a show than a presentation. >>>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and >>>>>>>>> prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump >>>>>>>>> right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat >>>>>>>>>> disappointed, and >>>>>>>>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>>>>>>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting >>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>>>>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>>>>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>>>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>>>>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>>>>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>>>>>>> But the truth is, >>>>>>>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>>>>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>>>>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Hi Scott. How are you? I read braille, but I don't use it so much with my Iphone, only sometimes! However, my boyfriend is a braille user to his iPhone since he is deafblind. I really want him to get IOS 10. Why do you say it wil not work with the mail app? H euse that a lot with his focus 14 display. I know you are nto allow to mention it before he release, but do you have any ideas why it may not work yet. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the blind ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.5 > On Sep 9, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you're a braille display user and use the Mail app heavily, I'd > hold off on updating. More details to follow on release day. > > Scott > >> On 9/9/16, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >> Hi! >> Not for my Bose AE 2 wireless. >> But i think this is more a Bose problem than an Apple one. >> I am not sure how to update the firmware on my Bose headphones. >> /A >>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>> >>> Update with out hesitation, it’s a great release. It fixes a lot of the >>> audio routing problems as well at least the ones I was having so well >>> worth it in my case and I feel it will be for others as well. >>> >>> The mac OSX release is also very very good. Update em if you got em. >>> >>> For what it’s worth, this is the best software release Apple has done post >>> Jobs in my opinion. Not necessarily for features but more for stability >>> and just a good all around solid release with fewer bugs than previous >>> whole number updates. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot >>>> to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>>> JustWonderin' >>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well >>>>> as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang >>>>> in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>> --- >>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>> >>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB d
RE: Ios10 and accessibility
Also, Steve jobs was the key behind the new ideas. Realistically what has changed on the iPhone since Jobbs died? There really has been nothing outstanding with its design or configuration since it origionally came out From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016 1:14 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Mary, well said and so true. We used to have no idea what was coming out until much closer to the events. Anybody remember the cell phones apple left around the bay area to create publicity? The first was a legitimate mistake where an engineer left his phone in a bar and it wasn’t out yet. The next year that happened though was faked / staged. Now you have a picture of the new phone almost as soon as the present model is released. Great point Mary. On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts now than there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware surprises were there? Not many. And that has been true for the last several presentations. Leaks are all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes some of the "wow" factor out. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: Hi! I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. It was more like a show than a presentation. /A On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. >From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com<mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com<mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net<mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wr
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
gt; Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson >>>>>>>>>> <stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>>>>>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>>>>>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop re
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
n get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at:
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
gt; This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and >>>>>>> prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump >>>>>>> right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>>>>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat >>>>>>>> disappointed, and >>>>>>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>>>>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting >>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>>>>> But the truth is, >>>>>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 >>>>>>>>> when its >>>>>>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>>>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>>>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>>>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>>>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>>>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like >>>>>>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
>>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. >>>>> It was more like a show than a presentation. >>>>> /A >>>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer >>>>>> to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new >>>>>> releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>>>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >>>>>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>>>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >>>>>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>>>> But the truth is, >>>>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>>>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>>>>>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
gularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net> <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.googl
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:clgillan...@gmail.com> Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You re
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And now they are already talking about what is going to be in next years iPhone. People don't have this one in her hands yet. And already the speculation for next year has begun. This is just too much. And the same is largely true for the software side, at least for the OS. There is supposed to be this NDA hush-hush. But everything is all over the mainstream press. The only exception is access ability, because the mainstream doesn't care about it. And we're not supposed to talk about it, because some people still think there's an actual NDA in effect. It only affects us. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Mary, well said and so true. We used to have no idea what was coming out > until much closer to the events. > > Anybody remember the cell phones apple left around the bay area to create > publicity? The first was a legitimate mistake where an engineer left his > phone in a bar and it wasn’t out yet. The next year that happened though was > faked / staged. > > Now you have a picture of the new phone almost as soon as the present model > is released. > > Great point Mary. > >> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big >> difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts now than >> there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware surprises were >> there? Not many. And that has been true for the last several presentations. >> Leaks are all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes >> some of the "wow" factor out. >> >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>> >>> That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used >>> to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman >>> let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the >>> other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. >>> >>> I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. >>>> It was more like a show than a presentation. >>>> /A >>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer >>>>> to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new >>>>> releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >>>>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >>>>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>>> But the truth is, >>>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >&
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Mary, well said and so true. We used to have no idea what was coming out until much closer to the events. Anybody remember the cell phones apple left around the bay area to create publicity? The first was a legitimate mistake where an engineer left his phone in a bar and it wasn’t out yet. The next year that happened though was faked / staged. Now you have a picture of the new phone almost as soon as the present model is released. Great point Mary. > On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big difference > with regard to what we know before an event even starts now than there was > when he was around. I mean really. What hardware surprises were there? Not > many. And that has been true for the last several presentations. Leaks are > all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes some of the > "wow" factor out. > > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: > >> That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used >> to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman >> let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the >> other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. >> >> I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. >> >> >>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. >>> It was more like a show than a presentation. >>> /A >>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer >>>> to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new >>>> releases. And to read AppleVis. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>> >>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >>>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >>>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>>> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com>> >>>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>>> But the truth is, >>>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> >>>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>>> --
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I think Jobs was more of a showman. But I also think there's a big difference with regard to what we know before an event even starts now than there was when he was around. I mean really. What hardware surprises were there? Not many. And that has been true for the last several presentations. Leaks are all over the place in the tech press these days. It kind of takes some of the "wow" factor out. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used to > be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman let’s > put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the other > day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. > > I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. > > >> On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. >> It was more like a show than a presentation. >> /A >>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to >>> wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new >>> releases. And to read AppleVis. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >>>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >>>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>> But the truth is, >>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>> >>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>> ----- Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>
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That’s funny, I’ve heard the opposite criticism. Apple presentations used to be showier with Jobs. At least, I think he was a much better showman let’s put it that way. I was listening to a discussion on Fox Business the other day how they were lamenting the loss of the jobs era events. I still like it, there’s a certain excitement around apple release day. > On Sep 9, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > > Hi! > I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. > It was more like a show than a presentation. > /A >> On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to >> wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new >> releases. And to read AppleVis. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> Are We Alone in the Universe? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >>> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >>> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >>> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >>> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jenny & Marmalade >>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>> But the truth is, >>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>>> JustWonderin' >>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>> --- >>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>> >>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson >>>>>>> <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any que
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
If you're a braille display user and use the Mail app heavily, I'd hold off on updating. More details to follow on release day. Scott On 9/9/16, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > Hi! > Not for my Bose AE 2 wireless. > But i think this is more a Bose problem than an Apple one. > I am not sure how to update the firmware on my Bose headphones. > /A >> On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >> >> Update with out hesitation, it’s a great release. It fixes a lot of the >> audio routing problems as well at least the ones I was having so well >> worth it in my case and I feel it will be for others as well. >> >> The mac OSX release is also very very good. Update em if you got em. >> >> For what it’s worth, this is the best software release Apple has done post >> Jobs in my opinion. Not necessarily for features but more for stability >> and just a good all around solid release with fewer bugs than previous >> whole number updates. >> >> >>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot >>> to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>> JustWonderin' >>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well >>>> as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang >>>> in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>> --- >>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>> Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>>> <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>> >>>>> Shawn >>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Peace, >>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>> >>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>> itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >>>>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit http
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Hi! Not for my Bose AE 2 wireless. But i think this is more a Bose problem than an Apple one. I am not sure how to update the firmware on my Bose headphones. /A > On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Update with out hesitation, it’s a great release. It fixes a lot of the > audio routing problems as well at least the ones I was having so well worth > it in my case and I feel it will be for others as well. > > The mac OSX release is also very very good. Update em if you got em. > > For what it’s worth, this is the best software release Apple has done post > Jobs in my opinion. Not necessarily for features but more for stability and > just a good all around solid release with fewer bugs than previous whole > number updates. > > >> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to >> Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >> ForTotallyBlind users? >> JustWonderin' >> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >>> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >>> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >>> though guys, it won't be much longer. >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>> >>> >>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. >>>> Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>> >>>> Shawn >>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>> >>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Ma
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Hi! I actually listened to it on wednesday but i don’t think i will anymore. It was more like a show than a presentation. /A > On 8 Sep 2016, at 19:58, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to > wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new > releases. And to read AppleVis. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and >> a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in >> yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes >> in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it >> doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. >> >> -- >> >> Jenny & Marmalade >> Phone: (972 989-3894 >> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >> But the truth is, >> I could no more stop dreaming, >> Than I could make them all come true.” >> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >>> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >>> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >>> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >>> JustWonderin' >>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>> --- >>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>> Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>> >>>>> Shawn >>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson >>>>>> <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Peace, >>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>> >>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>&
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
I didn’t like it the first day but now I do and that’s the feature to unlock and open the home screen separately. There’s an extra push but at least you don’t unlock and lose your notifications on the lock screen which I like to scroll through myself. Siri as a lot more punch now which is cool. I agree though it feels more like a lot of bug fixes, which is not a bad thing. Audio routing for example is pretty damn rock solid now which it hasn’t been for a long time. > On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:08 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote: > > Yeah. The betas have been pretty good. Just as good as a regular release, > like 9.3 or so. That being said, I haven't seen that many noteworthy > innovations though, just things taken from the Mac. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:51 AM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com > <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> +1. Each beta just got better and better. >>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 20:02, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I don’t think this is breaking any rules. But IOS10 has been ready for >>> primetime since beta 2/ This round of betas has been smooth and snappy >>> ever since. I updated to the beta back in july, and haven’t looked back >>> since. >>> Checkout my groups >>> >>> Come be sole out for Christ! >>> >>> https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life >>> <https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life> >>> >>> Come learn and teach about apple products! >>> >>> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple <https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple> >>> >>> Come chat about any and everything >>> >>> https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic <https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a >>>> little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s >>>> keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in >>>> accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t >>>> even get so much as a mention these days. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jenny & Marmalade >>>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >>>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>>> But the truth is, >>>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>>>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot >>>>> to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>>>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>>>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>>>> JustWonderin' >>>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>>>>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well >>>>>> as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang >>>>>> in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>> >>>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility &g
RE: Ios10 and accessibility
Hi, Yeah I've been running the beta for a couple of months I think now and it's great, I ould hope the prod release is as stable and things will rock on. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 5:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: > Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, > and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in > yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes > in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it > doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. > > -- > > Jenny & Marmalade > Phone: (972 989-3894 > Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> > Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI > “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in > trouble too. > But the truth is, > I could no more stop dreaming, > Than I could make them all come true.” > — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock > > > > > >> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as >> WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its >> Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime >> MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? >> JustWonderin' >> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. >>> Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as >>> well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while >>> longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" >>> <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>> >>> >>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like >>>> everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>> >>>> Shawn >>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson >>>>> <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>> >>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>> the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>> is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To p
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Yeah. The betas have been pretty good. Just as good as a regular release, like 9.3 or so. That being said, I haven't seen that many noteworthy innovations though, just things taken from the Mac. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:51 AM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> > wrote: > > +1. Each beta just got better and better. >> On 8 Sep 2016, at 20:02, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I don’t think this is breaking any rules. But IOS10 has been ready for >> primetime since beta 2/ This round of betas has been smooth and snappy ever >> since. I updated to the beta back in july, and haven’t looked back since. >> Checkout my groups >> >> Come be sole out for Christ! >> >> https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life >> >> Come learn and teach about apple products! >> >> https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple >> >> Come chat about any and everything >> >> https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a >>> little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s >>> keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility >>> fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much >>> as a mention these days. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jenny & Marmalade >>> Phone: (972 989-3894 >>> Email: kc5...@gmail.com >>> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >>> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >>> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >>> But the truth is, >>> I could no more stop dreaming, >>> Than I could make them all come true.” >>> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot >>>> to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>>> JustWonderin' >>>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >>>>> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as >>>>> public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in >>>>> there though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>>> --- >>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>> >>>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peace, >>>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>&g
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
+1. Each beta just got better and better. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 20:02, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I don’t think this is breaking any rules. But IOS10 has been ready for > primetime since beta 2/ This round of betas has been smooth and snappy ever > since. I updated to the beta back in july, and haven’t looked back since. > Checkout my groups > > Come be sole out for Christ! > > https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life > > Come learn and teach about apple products! > > https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple > > Come chat about any and everything > > https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic > > > > >> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a >> little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s >> keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility >> fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much >> as a mention these days. >> >> -- >> >> Jenny & Marmalade >> Phone: (972 989-3894 >> Email: kc5...@gmail.com >> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >> But the truth is, >> I could no more stop dreaming, >> Than I could make them all come true.” >> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to >>> Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>> JustWonderin' >>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >>>> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >>>> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >>>> though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>> --- >>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>> Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>> >>>>> Shawn >>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Peace, >>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>> >>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >>>>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> --- You received this message bec
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
No, 9.3.5 is the current release. What I said was that information about iOS 10 can be found on AppleVis. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/8/2016 6:28 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: That’s out now? I’m still getting reminders out about 9..something or other, which I still haven’t installed yet. On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:19 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Applevis? They usually provide this information rather quickly. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/8/2016 7:19 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. <>
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
That’s out now? I’m still getting reminders out about 9..something or other, which I still haven’t installed yet. > On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:19 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Applevis? They usually provide this information rather quickly. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 9/8/2016 7:19 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features >> in IOS10? >> >> Peace, >> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >> >> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Go to AppleVis www.applevis.com and read some of their blog posts. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Sep 2016, at 00:19, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features > in IOS10? > > Peace, > Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. > > mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Update with out hesitation, it’s a great release. It fixes a lot of the audio routing problems as well at least the ones I was having so well worth it in my case and I feel it will be for others as well. The mac OSX release is also very very good. Update em if you got em. For what it’s worth, this is the best software release Apple has done post Jobs in my opinion. Not necessarily for features but more for stability and just a good all around solid release with fewer bugs than previous whole number updates. > On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to > Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON > Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically > ForTotallyBlind users? > JustWonderin' > At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >> though guys, it won't be much longer. >> --- >> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instructor. >> >> clgillan...@gmail.com >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >> >> >>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. >>> Alex Hall can confirm this. >>> >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>> features in IOS10? >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>> >>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@go
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Definite +1 on the beta. I switched over at about the same time and since they fixed the filevault and installation problems it’s been rock solid. I agree I think it was about beta 2 or 3 that things really fell in to place. > On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I don’t think this is breaking any rules. But IOS10 has been ready for > primetime since beta 2/ This round of betas has been smooth and snappy ever > since. I updated to the beta back in july, and haven’t looked back since. > Checkout my groups > > Come be sole out for Christ! > > https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life > Come learn and teach about apple products! > > https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple > Come chat about any and everything > > https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic > > > >> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com >> <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a >> little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s >> keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility >> fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much >> as a mention these days. >> >> -- >> >> Jenny & Marmalade >> Phone: (972 989-3894 >> Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> >> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI >> “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, >> Sometimes gets me in trouble too. >> But the truth is, >> I could no more stop dreaming, >> Than I could make them all come true.” >> — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >>> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to >>> Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >>> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >>> ForTotallyBlind users? >>> JustWonderin' >>> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >>>> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >>>> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >>>> though guys, it won't be much longer. >>>> --- >>>> Christopher Gilland >>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>> Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone >>>>> else. Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>>> >>>>> Shawn >>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>>> <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>>> >>>>>> Peace, >>>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>>> >>>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inapprop
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
I don’t think this is breaking any rules. But IOS10 has been ready for primetime since beta 2/ This round of betas has been smooth and snappy ever since. I updated to the beta back in july, and haven’t looked back since. Checkout my groups Come be sole out for Christ! https://groups.io/g/committed-christian-life Come learn and teach about apple products! https://groups.io/g/peel-the-apple Come chat about any and everything https://groups.io/g/PTA-open-topic > On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Jenny Wood <kc5...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a > little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s > keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility > fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much > as a mention these days. > > -- > > Jenny & Marmalade > Phone: (972 989-3894 > Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> > Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI > “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, > Sometimes gets me in trouble too. > But the truth is, > I could no more stop dreaming, > Than I could make them all come true.” > — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock > > > > > >> On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net >> <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to >> Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >> ForTotallyBlind users? >> JustWonderin' >> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >>> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >>> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >>> though guys, it won't be much longer. >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>> >>> >>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. >>>> Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>> >>>> Shawn >>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>> >>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisiona
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
I concur with you as well. Just hang in there guys, it will be well worth the wait. Trust us guys. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 18:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the > official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public > testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there > though guys, it won't be much longer. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility > > >> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. >> Alex Hall can confirm this. >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White MacBook >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >> >>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>> >>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features >>> in IOS10? >>> >>> Peace, >>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>> >>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Christopher, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I’ve been running the betas from the very very beginning too, and just concur with your thoughts. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 18:59, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > OK, I cannot give any specifics, but I will at least bend enough to tell you > yes, absolutely, I would suggest everyone update on Tuesday. I've been > running the betas since the very very day they were released at WWDC and let > me just say this: I'm blown away! I dare say, this has by far probably been > the most rock solid beta cycle I yet have seen! To be honest with you, iOS > 10 now feels so rock solid to me, and so bug-free, I'm running it not just on > my production phone, but I'm even going so far as to run it on my business > mobile phone, and frankly, I tell ya: I can't even tell I'm running a beta! > It's literally that! smooth! I freaking love it! > > So, in conclusion, yes, ab, suh, lootly! I'd update on Wednesday, if you're > asking for my opinion. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - From: "Robin" <robin-mel...@comcast.net> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility > > >> Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to >> Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON >> Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically >> ForTotallyBlind users? >> JustWonderin' >> At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >>> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >>> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >>> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >>> though guys, it won't be much longer. >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >>> >>> >>>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. >>>> Alex Hall can confirm this. >>>> >>>> Shawn >>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>>> features in IOS10? >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>>> >>>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit http
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
It's very much worth it, yes. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Jenny Wood To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you hav
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
This is why I do not listen to these events. I am in no hurry and prefer to wait to read the real life experiences of those who jump right on new releases. And to read AppleVis. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/8/2016 10:47 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com <mailto:kc5...@gmail.com> Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searc
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
OK, I cannot give any specifics, but I will at least bend enough to tell you yes, absolutely, I would suggest everyone update on Tuesday. I've been running the betas since the very very day they were released at WWDC and let me just say this: I'm blown away! I dare say, this has by far probably been the most rock solid beta cycle I yet have seen! To be honest with you, iOS 10 now feels so rock solid to me, and so bug-free, I'm running it not just on my production phone, but I'm even going so far as to run it on my business mobile phone, and frankly, I tell ya: I can't even tell I'm running a beta! It's literally that! smooth! I freaking love it! So, in conclusion, yes, ab, suh, lootly! I'd update on Wednesday, if you're asking for my opinion. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Robin" <robin-mel...@comcast.net> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for th
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Was kind of curious about this myself. I was somewhat disappointed, and a little concerned, that accessibility wasn’t even mentioned in yesterday’s keynote. I seem to recall Steve Jobs highlighting changes in accessibility fairly regularly at his events, and am sad that it doesn’t even get so much as a mention these days. -- Jenny & Marmalade Phone: (972 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter: KC5GNI “I’m the kid who has this habit of dreaming, Sometimes gets me in trouble too. But the truth is, I could no more stop dreaming, Than I could make them all come true.” — “The Kid” Buddy Mondlock > On Sep 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to > Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON > Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically > ForTotallyBlind users? > JustWonderin' > At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: >> With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being >> the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public >> testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there >> though guys, it won't be much longer. >> --- >> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instructor. >> >> clgillan...@gmail.com >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM >> Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility >> >> >>> Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the >>> accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. >>> Alex Hall can confirm this. >>> >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White MacBook >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility >>>> features in IOS10? >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. >>>> >>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvi
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Can You AsA Developer-BetaTester Give YourRecommendation as WhetherOrNot to Update Your Apple iDevice-iOSDevice TO iOS10 when its Launched ON Tuesday,September13th? Is iOS10 Ready4PrimeTime MoreSpecifically ForTotallyBlind users? JustWonderin' At 10:26 AM 9/8/2016, you wrote: With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received th
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
With me also being a dev, I along with Alex can concur with Shawn. Being the official release date isn't until next week, we devs as well as public testers are still on NDA for just a little while longer. Hang in there though guys, it won't be much longer. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Ios10 and accessibility Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Yes, but they wait until the official release date to tell you the accessibility features because they're still under NDA like everyone else. Alex Hall can confirm this. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features > in IOS10? > > Peace, > Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. > > mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Ios10 and accessibility
Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Ios10 and accessibility
Applevis? They usually provide this information rather quickly. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/8/2016 7:19 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: Can someone tell me where I can go to read about the accessibility features in IOS10? Peace, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. <>
