Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[E.T.]

Simon,
   Welcome to the moderators team. (wicked smile)

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On 2/23/2017 12:00 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hey folks,

 We've been asked to kill this, and no one is being racist,

 Lets just chill



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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via 
Twitter

and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get 
enough of that in rl.

On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle 
of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly could have 
ignored the thread.




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RE: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey folks,

 We've been asked to kill this, and no one is being racist,

 Lets just chill 



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Subject: Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via 
Twitter

and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get 
enough of that in rl.
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle 
> of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly could 
> have ignored the thread.

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Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[Cara Quinn]

Scott,

Of course, and that is exactly why I wrote ‘this goes for all of us’ in my note.

I actually appreciate a good venting of the spleen so to speak but this just is 
not the place for this.

All I am saying is that if you or anyone else wants to vent about a thread or 
person etc, either write me or Mark, or just go ahead and have at it off the 
list.

That cannot possibly be too much to ask, can it? :)

And Scott, in case you are wondering why I am sending this response on the 
list, I did try writing you a while back off the list but got no response. So 
apparently we must continue this dance in public. lol!

Ya know, in all seriousness I’ve actually thought of starting a list just for 
unbridled conversation and flaming etc but it would probably turn out to be the 
most boring list ever! lol! If offered the opportunity to express one’s self 
with absolutely no restrictions, people probably just would not want to take 
part in it. -Either that or it would just degenerate into pure and utter 
stupidity. :)

So in regard to this list, can we please please please just keep this to a dull 
roar?

And yes, this goes for all of us. -And yes, I even include myself in this. I 
have been snarky from time to time myself so I do understand that none of us is 
immune. :)

Thanks and have an awesome evening!

Cheers!

Cara
On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:

I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle 
of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly could have 
ignored the thread.

It wasn’t like it was a constructive criticism or a reasoned response I’d have 
welcomed that it was just whining to have one’s self heard.  Come on Cara, you 
know the difference.;)). Of course what you and Mark says goes, it’s your list 
no argument from me what so ever I’m just saying the crap storm from the 
original respondent wasn’t needed either.


> On Feb 22, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> hey Scott,
> 
> just a friendly reminder that you also have a delete key.
> 
> So please also use it when you see a message that you do not like. K?
> 
> this goes for all of us. As much as I like a spicy conversation sometimes, 
> this is a mailing list for everyone who appreciates good information and 
> civility. So rather than firing back snarky retorts, just go ahead and delete 
> the offending message and be done with it.
> 
> Thanks very much and have a great day!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Then do us all a favor, in the upper right hand of your keyboard there is a 
> rectangularish key, it’s called a delete key.  When you highlight a message, 
> say this one for example and you press this key it goes away.  In fact, one 
> of the nice parts is you can delete this message with out reading it.  More 
> importantly, you can choose what to read with out crying and whining in 
> public on list to others who may not agree with you.  So do us all a favor, 
> use your delete key and stop spreading your special brand of crap that the 
> rest of us want no part of either.
> 
> Thank you
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:01 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I find this topic reprehensible. I did not come here for crap like this.
>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We tend to function better with our neighbors to the north.  Mexico has 
>>> been dumping it’s unemployment and crime problems on us for years hence the 
>>> need for a wall.
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Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[Scott Granados]

Nobody gave you any racist political crap, not here.  Although I can tell by 
your attitude you bring it on your self living with this victim mentality.

I most certainly made no racist statements nor would I.  I made several 
statements based on Department of Justice published crime statistics reports 
but we won’t bother letting facts get in the way.  Also some statements based 
on historical facts.
Simon was asking a legitimate question, all be it possibly on the wrong 
list:) about the structure of our phone carriers and how our states work.  Just 
like I do not know the finer points of New Zealand governmental and provincial 
structure I’m quite sure he’s probably equally unfamiliar with ours.  Being 
your so defensive and worrying about people victimizing you so much you might 
not know but New Zealand is on the other side of the globe from the United 
States.  It makes sense we don’t know about each other’s way of doing things.  
Your the one showing inflexibility, rigidity and prejudice by not allowing us 
to discuss something with out attack so we both learn more about each other.  
Nobody had any racial intent what so ever yet the victim class is trained to 
play that card along with the poor blind card, the women card, the gay card, 
liberal card, republican card, single and married card and on and on and on.  
You in the victim class need to learn that these are the ways we’re divided, 
these labels must be discussed so they can be eventually dealt with and no 
longer exist.  Granted probably not on a Mac list, Mark’s points are good ones 
and it’s his list so this is the last I will comment on this subject.  I hate 
that we’ve become a gutless politically correct thoughtless mass who hides 
behind our differences and cries wolf instead of engages.


> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:34 PM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get 
> enough of that in rl.
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the 
>> middle of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly 
>> could have ignored the thread.
> 
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Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[Scott Granados]

I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle 
of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly could have 
ignored the thread.

It wasn’t like it was a constructive criticism or a reasoned response I’d have 
welcomed that it was just whining to have one’s self heard.  Come on Cara, you 
know the difference.;)). Of course what you and Mark says goes, it’s your list 
no argument from me what so ever I’m just saying the crap storm from the 
original respondent wasn’t needed either.

 
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> hey Scott,
> 
> just a friendly reminder that you also have a delete key.
> 
> So please also use it when you see a message that you do not like. K?
> 
> this goes for all of us. As much as I like a spicy conversation sometimes, 
> this is a mailing list for everyone who appreciates good information and 
> civility. So rather than firing back snarky retorts, just go ahead and delete 
> the offending message and be done with it.
> 
> Thanks very much and have a great day!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Then do us all a favor, in the upper right hand of your keyboard there is a 
> rectangularish key, it’s called a delete key.  When you highlight a message, 
> say this one for example and you press this key it goes away.  In fact, one 
> of the nice parts is you can delete this message with out reading it.  More 
> importantly, you can choose what to read with out crying and whining in 
> public on list to others who may not agree with you.  So do us all a favor, 
> use your delete key and stop spreading your special brand of crap that the 
> rest of us want no part of either.
> 
> Thank you
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:01 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> I find this topic reprehensible. I did not come here for crap like this.
>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Scott Granados  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We tend to function better with our neighbors to the north.  Mexico has 
>>> been dumping it’s unemployment and crime problems on us for years hence the 
>>> need for a wall.
>> 
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Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[alia robinson]

and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get 
enough of that in rl.
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle 
> of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly could 
> have ignored the thread.

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Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

[Cara Quinn]

hey Scott,

just a friendly reminder that you also have a delete key.

So please also use it when you see a message that you do not like. K?

this goes for all of us. As much as I like a spicy conversation sometimes, this 
is a mailing list for everyone who appreciates good information and civility. 
So rather than firing back snarky retorts, just go ahead and delete the 
offending message and be done with it.

Thanks very much and have a great day!

Cheers!

Cara
On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:07 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Then do us all a favor, in the upper right hand of your keyboard there is a 
rectangularish key, it’s called a delete key.  When you highlight a message, 
say this one for example and you press this key it goes away.  In fact, one of 
the nice parts is you can delete this message with out reading it.  More 
importantly, you can choose what to read with out crying and whining in public 
on list to others who may not agree with you.  So do us all a favor, use your 
delete key and stop spreading your special brand of crap that the rest of us 
want no part of either.

Thank you

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:01 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> I find this topic reprehensible. I did not come here for crap like this.
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> We tend to function better with our neighbors to the north.  Mexico has been 
>> dumping it’s unemployment and crime problems on us for years hence the need 
>> for a wall.
> 
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