Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-07-02 Thread Kevin Chao
acvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the > > iPhone - CNET > > &

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
aries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the > iPhone - CNET > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados <

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-30 Thread Scott Granados
blems for everyone. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 p

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2017-06-30 Thread Michael Marshall
s.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > Mary >

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2017-06-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrot

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2017-06-29 Thread Scott Granados
Oh I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a lot of hobbyistss out there who will try to and once successful crack and publish their findings. Remember the whole Clipper project was undone for Uncle Sam by a lowly intern at Bell Labs who was cracking clipper while getting coffee.:) That or the

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-29 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
Hi Mary. Okay let me be more exact, if you take a picture, okay if you like me go out to something and take maybe 40 different pictures, it is really nice that your iPhone tries to explain to you what is on them, and it is closer to being right on the money more often than not. I think you are

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-28 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, I had one of the receivers for a few years whilst living in SF. The iPhone becomes the receiver. The marked GPS coordinates becomes the transmitter. The clear speech occurs when the iPhone is directly aligned, and becomes static as the iPhone's alignment changes in relation to the

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-28 Thread gary-melconian
Thanks mary, for the explanation of this one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-28 Thread Mary Otten
You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to > help. Plus you have the regular

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2017-06-28 Thread Scott Granados
I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on signal conditions. I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter way finding would be nice. > On Jun 28,

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-28 Thread Mary Otten
I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-28 Thread Scott Granados
Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the clearer the

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread David Chittenden
Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It uses GPS and the Google Places database. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >>>>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're >>>>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important >>>>>>> ways, >>

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread E.T.
ary Otten Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a

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2017-06-27 Thread Scott Granados
Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Scott Granados
; -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Scott Granados
>> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Scott Granados
June 26, 2017 5:06 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed > about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse t

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Beware when updating to beta 12: for example the keyboards do not work properly on the screen and the symbols keyboard is not available altogether! > On 27 Jun 2017, at 10:13, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com&

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2017-06-27 Thread Harry Bell
Beware when updating to beta 12: for example the keyboards do not work properly on the screen and the symbols keyboard is not available altogether! > On 27 Jun 2017, at 10:13, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > Nice low down on what's to come. > > Might be crazy

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Michael Marshall
i just want the mac beta. hope it comes out in the next 24 hours. > On 27 Jun 2017, at 7:13 pm, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > Nice low down on what's to come. > > Might be crazy and go update my only iphone > > -Original Message- > From:

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 1:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks Mark, Nice low down on what's to come. Might be crazy and go update my only iphone -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-27 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
about >>>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're >>>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important >>>>>> ways, >>>>>> at least for me. Why do you think I still u

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Oriol Gómez
ry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian <gmelconian...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary, you

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread David Chittenden
>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill >>>>> buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I >>>>> wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility >>>>> any more. Wahthe poin

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Oriol Gómez
conian...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They >>>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill >>>>> buy it if not then yo

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Ve

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
o work on accessibility any more. >>> Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long >>> run. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to accessibility. I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. Specifically indoor navigation with support for

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, i

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread lenron brown
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone >> - CNET >> >> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly,

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
groups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > Well, if I'm understanding this correc

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
e 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread gary-melconian
: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM,