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> You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen.
> Mary
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>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados <
blems for everyone.
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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> You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen.
> Mary
>
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You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen.
Mary
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> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrot
Oh I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a lot of hobbyistss out there who will try
to and once successful crack and publish their findings. Remember the whole
Clipper project was undone for Uncle Sam by a lowly intern at Bell Labs who was
cracking clipper while getting coffee.:)
That or the
Hi Mary.
Okay let me be more exact, if you take a picture, okay if you like me
go out to something and take maybe 40 different pictures, it is really
nice that your iPhone tries to explain to you what is on them, and it
is closer to being right on the money more often than not.
I think you are
Yes, I had one of the receivers for a few years whilst living in SF.
The iPhone becomes the receiver. The marked GPS coordinates becomes the
transmitter. The clear speech occurs when the iPhone is directly aligned, and
becomes static as the iPhone's alignment changes in relation to the
Thanks mary, for the explanation of this one.
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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public
You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen.
Mary
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> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to
> help. Plus you have the regular
I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to
help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on
signal conditions.
I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter
way finding would be nice.
> On Jun 28,
I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. The
problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to speak, is
often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go to. It might
be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from
Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I was
in school. I will definitely check out this app.
The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You
pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the
clearer the
Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called Over
There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It uses GPS
and the Google Places database.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about
>>>>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're
>>>>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important
>>>>>>> ways,
>>
ary Otten
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Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about
the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a
Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s included.
How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? I used to
like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public transit and
similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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>>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS
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>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM
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June 26, 2017 5:06 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone -
> CNET
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> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed
> about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse t
: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone -
CNET
Beware when updating to beta 12: for example the keyboards do not work
properly on the screen and the symbols keyboard is not available altogether!
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 10:13, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com&
Beware when updating to beta 12: for example the keyboards do not work
properly on the screen and the symbols keyboard is not available altogether!
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 10:13, Simon Fogarty wrote:
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> Thanks Mark,
>
> Nice low down on what's to come.
>
> Might be crazy
i just want the mac beta. hope it comes out in the next 24 hours.
> On 27 Jun 2017, at 7:13 pm, Simon Fogarty wrote:
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> Thanks Mark,
>
> Nice low down on what's to come.
>
> Might be crazy and go update my only iphone
>
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On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 1:44 PM
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Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about
accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team
Thanks Mark,
Nice low down on what's to come.
Might be crazy and go update my only iphone
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:27 AM
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about
>>>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're
>>>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important
>>>>>> ways,
>>>>>> at least for me. Why do you think I still u
ry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian <gmelconian...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary, you
>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill
>>>>> buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I
>>>>> wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility
>>>>> any more. Wahthe poin
conian...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They
>>>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill
>>>>> buy it if not then yo
2017 5:06 PM
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CNET
Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about
the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a
PDF file. Ve
o work on accessibility any more.
>>> Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long
>>> run.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just
because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to
accessibility.
I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about.
Specifically indoor navigation with support for
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Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about
the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a
PDF file. Very sad. Apple, i
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM
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>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone
>> - CNET
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>> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly,
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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> Well, if I'm understanding this correc
e 26, 2017 5:06 PM
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Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about
the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a
: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone -
CNET
Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about
the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a
PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll
Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about
the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a
PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this.
Mary
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> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM,
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