RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi,

Cmd r works but give it some time to load what it needs.

But why are you trying to boot from an external drive?

You could try using start up disk under system preferences,
Or if you have sighted assistance you could try
Holding down the option key at start up and then selecting the bootable option 
from your list shown on screen.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 11:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hi all,

While we are on the subject, I have a mac mini from 2018 and I need to get into 
the recovery partition to enable booting from external drives, but I am finding 
that using cmd+R is not working for some reason.  Anyone else having  issues 
with this?  I do not have a motor connected nore do I have one to connect if 
that matter.  If I do the cmd+R at boot, it just goes strate to the standered 
hd mac os partition.  Any ideas on this one.  I am using mac os 10.15.1.  
Thanks.

Matthew



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 3:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Interesting,

I’m using cmd r not cmd option r so it’s getting Yosemite from some where.

Either way it’s bloody slow downloading and I’ll run with it now and see what 
happens.

Cheers.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 9:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hi,

If it is trying to install Yosemite, then it is most likely using an Internet 
Recovery option instead of the local recovery partition.  I did state the 
commands incorrectly in my last post, it should be cmd-option-r for Internet 
recovery.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 13:12, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Well it turns out I’ve solved the problem and well it’s simply a timing issue.

 I used the cmd r option again and just gave it more time.

Then got voiceover up and running.

Note this is a 2015 13inch mac book pro with custom specs


I had Mojave running on it before I wiped it last week,

However when doing cmd r it turns out it’s trying to now install Yosemite hence 
the speed of the installation over internet seems to be a bit slower than 
average

Thanks for the ideas though,
They are appreciated.

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne




On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install

RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread matthew dyer 
Hi all,

While we are on the subject, I have a mac mini from 2018 and I need to get into 
the recovery partition to enable booting from external drives, but I am finding 
that using cmd+R is not working for some reason.  Anyone else having  issues 
with this?  I do not have a motor connected nore do I have one to connect if 
that matter.  If I do the cmd+R at boot, it just goes strate to the standered 
hd mac os partition.  Any ideas on this one.  I am using mac os 10.15.1.  
Thanks.

Matthew



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 3:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Interesting,

I’m using cmd r not cmd option r so it’s getting Yosemite from some where.

Either way it’s bloody slow downloading and I’ll run with it now and see what 
happens.

Cheers.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 9:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hi,

If it is trying to install Yosemite, then it is most likely using an Internet 
Recovery option instead of the local recovery partition.  I did state the 
commands incorrectly in my last post, it should be cmd-option-r for Internet 
recovery.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 13:12, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Well it turns out I’ve solved the problem and well it’s simply a timing issue.

 I used the cmd r option again and just gave it more time.

Then got voiceover up and running.

Note this is a 2015 13inch mac book pro with custom specs


I had Mojave running on it before I wiped it last week,

However when doing cmd r it turns out it’s trying to now install Yosemite hence 
the speed of the installation over internet seems to be a bit slower than 
average

Thanks for the ideas though,
They are appreciated.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne






On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Interesting,

I’m using cmd r not cmd option r so it’s getting Yosemite from some where.

Either way it’s bloody slow downloading and I’ll run with it now and see what 
happens.

Cheers.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 9:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hi,

If it is trying to install Yosemite, then it is most likely using an Internet 
Recovery option instead of the local recovery partition.  I did state the 
commands incorrectly in my last post, it should be cmd-option-r for Internet 
recovery.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 13:12, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Well it turns out I’ve solved the problem and well it’s simply a timing issue.

 I used the cmd r option again and just gave it more time.

Then got voiceover up and running.

Note this is a 2015 13inch mac book pro with custom specs


I had Mojave running on it before I wiped it last week,

However when doing cmd r it turns out it’s trying to now install Yosemite hence 
the speed of the installation over internet seems to be a bit slower than 
average

Thanks for the ideas though,
They are appreciated.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne






On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne







On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi Jonathan,

Thanks yes I looked at that

However you need to have Catalina installed to be able to run those commands to 
download the earlier versions. And you can only download 10.14 and 10.13 from 
the Catalina terminal.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 6:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

I sent out a portion of a Tidbits.com article last week. discussing how to 
download new  installers  for several versions of MACOS   using termenal. 
Perhaps this will be useful for you.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 25, 2019, at 12:59 AM, Anne Robertson 
mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi Tim,

Actually I can’t remember but I’m pretty sure I did the wipe from cmd r then 
eraised the primary volume.

I managed with time to get it up and working lastnight

Rather than Mojave though it’s installing Yosemite

So I’m going to follow through on this install and then see what happens./
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 3:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Simon,

How did you do the erase?  If you did it from the Recovery Partition, then the 
existing recovery system should be present, whereas if you did it from an 
external thing such as an installer drive or target mode, then you have totally 
wiped everything and cmd-r will not work.  You would need to use cmd-shift-r to 
access the Internet Recovery system.  The problem with the Internet Recovery 
system is that you need to be connected to WiFi, which I've found to be a 
problem for us VO folks at this point.  If you can get sighted assistance to 
connect to WiFi, then you can use Internet Recovery easily after that.  I'm 
thinking that the full erase disconnected you from WiFi and that is why you're 
not progressing to the Language Chooser or MacOS Utilities.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:43, Anne Robertson 
mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne






On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Hi,

If it is trying to install Yosemite, then it is most likely using an Internet 
Recovery option instead of the local recovery partition.  I did state the 
commands incorrectly in my last post, it should be cmd-option-r for Internet 
recovery.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 13:12, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Ann,
 
Well it turns out I’ve solved the problem and well it’s simply a timing issue.
 
 I used the cmd r option again and just gave it more time.
 
Then got voiceover up and running.
 
Note this is a 2015 13inch mac book pro with custom specs
 
 
I had Mojave running on it before I wiped it last week,
 
However when doing cmd r it turns out it’s trying to now install Yosemite hence 
the speed of the installation over internet seems to be a bit slower than 
average  
 
Thanks for the ideas though,
They are appreciated.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave
 
Hello Simon,
 
If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,
 
Anne
 
 
 


On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Hi Ann,
 
Great to know it’s happening to others,
 
But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,
 
But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up
 
Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave
 
Hello Simon,
 
My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,
 
Anne
 
 
 



On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Morning world,
 
I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have 
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,
 
  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,
 
I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.
 
I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.
 
I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.
 
Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?
 
Cheers.
 
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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi Ann,

Well it turns out I’ve solved the problem and well it’s simply a timing issue.

 I used the cmd r option again and just gave it more time.

Then got voiceover up and running.

Note this is a 2015 13inch mac book pro with custom specs


I had Mojave running on it before I wiped it last week,

However when doing cmd r it turns out it’s trying to now install Yosemite hence 
the speed of the installation over internet seems to be a bit slower than 
average

Thanks for the ideas though,
They are appreciated.

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Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
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Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne






On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
I sent out a portion of a Tidbits.com article last week. discussing how to 
download new  installers  for several versions of MACOS   using termenal. 
Perhaps this will be useful for you.  

Sent from my iPhone

>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 12:59 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
> before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for 
> the network password, you should be good to go.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Morning world,
>>  
>> I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have 
>> Which  had Mojave installed on to it,
>>  
>>   I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to 
>> install from the net
>> I’m getting all counts of nothingness,
>>  
>> I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still 
>> get nothing.
>>  
>> I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
>> the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message 
>> when I try to run them.
>>  
>> I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
>> and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before 
>> updating.
>>  
>> Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get 
>> this thing setup?
>>  
>> Cheers.
>> 
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Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Simon,

How did you do the erase?  If you did it from the Recovery Partition, then the 
existing recovery system should be present, whereas if you did it from an 
external thing such as an installer drive or target mode, then you have totally 
wiped everything and cmd-r will not work.  You would need to use cmd-shift-r to 
access the Internet Recovery system.  The problem with the Internet Recovery 
system is that you need to be connected to WiFi, which I've found to be a 
problem for us VO folks at this point.  If you can get sighted assistance to 
connect to WiFi, then you can use Internet Recovery easily after that.  I'm 
thinking that the full erase disconnected you from WiFi and that is why you're 
not progressing to the Language Chooser or MacOS Utilities.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 06:43, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
>  
> Great to know it’s happening to others,
>  
> But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long 
> time to start up or something more is happening,
>  
> But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up
>  
> Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave
>  
> Hello Simon,
>  
> My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
> before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for 
> the network password, you should be good to go.
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Morning world,
>  
> I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have 
> Which  had Mojave installed on to it,
>  
>   I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
> from the net
> I’m getting all counts of nothingness,
>  
> I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still 
> get nothing.
>  
> I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
> the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when 
> I try to run them.
>  
> I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
> and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.
>  
> Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get 
> this thing setup?
>  
> Cheers.
>  
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Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-25 Thread Anne Robertson 
Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
>  
> Great to know it’s happening to others,
>  
> But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long 
> time to start up or something more is happening,
>  
> But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up
>  
> Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave
>  
> Hello Simon,
>  
> My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
> before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for 
> the network password, you should be good to go.
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> Morning world,
>  
> I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have 
> Which  had Mojave installed on to it,
>  
>   I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
> from the net
> I’m getting all counts of nothingness,
>  
> I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still 
> get nothing.
>  
> I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
> the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when 
> I try to run them.
>  
> I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
> and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.
>  
> Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get 
> this thing setup?
>  
> Cheers.
>  
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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Hi ET,

 Well I would have thought yes,

I've tried both and get nothing,

I can't say it's not working 
But I'm not even getting the mac os utilities which I should be getting 

And normally when I get those I can't get vo working either.

I've not struck this before.

I'll keep trying and see what happens.

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Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Either of these work for you?

Cmd-Option-R or Cmd-Shift-Option-R

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On 11/24/2019 6:46 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Morning world,
> 
> I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
> 
> Which  had Mojave installed on to it,
> 
>    I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to 
> install from the net
> 
> I’m getting all counts of nothingness,
> 
> I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and 
> still get nothing.
> 
> I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have 
> killed the certs on older installers as these of mine give a 
> corruption message when I try to run them.
> 
> I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a 
> server and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that 
> before updating.
> 
> Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to 
> get this thing setup?
> 
> Cheers.
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Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-24 Thread Anne Robertson 
Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Morning world,
>  
> I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have 
> Which  had Mojave installed on to it,
>  
>   I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
> from the net
> I’m getting all counts of nothingness,
>  
> I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still 
> get nothing.
>  
> I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
> the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when 
> I try to run them.
>  
> I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
> and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.
>  
> Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get 
> this thing setup?
>  
> Cheers.
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Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-24 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 

   Either of these work for you?

Cmd-Option-R or Cmd-Shift-Option-R

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On 11/24/2019 6:46 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have

Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

   I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to 
install from the net


I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and 
still get nothing.


I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have 
killed the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption 
message when I try to run them.


I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a 
server and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that 
before updating.


Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to 
get this thing setup?


Cheers.

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downloading Mac OS Mojave

2019-11-24 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
Morning world,

I've just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I'm getting all counts of nothingness,

I've left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I've got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I'm not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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