Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Oriol Gómez
You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the
system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht
you can download, but only if you are using lion. If you're on snow
leopard you're goign to have to either upgrade or buy voices.

Then on voice over you, once you have donwloaded the voices, control
option command right and left arrow until you find voice and then down
arrow. When you change a voice, the next time you hit ctrl option
command down you will get the last voice you used.

hth

On 9/8/11, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users.

 I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my
 mac.
 Do I just by a voice and install?
 Where do I buy that voice?
 Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what
 advantages is there to it.
 Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document
 with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go
 to preferences to change it.
 Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different
 character typing?
 Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how
 to go about installing voices.
 ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also
 complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it
 on the fly?

 Thank you in advance for any help!
 Rachel

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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Rachel magario
Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose some 
of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis. 
Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it.
RM


On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:

 You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the
 system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht
 you can download, but only if you are using lion. If you're on snow
 leopard you're goign to have to either upgrade or buy voices.
 
 Then on voice over you, once you have donwloaded the voices, control
 option command right and left arrow until you find voice and then down
 arrow. When you change a voice, the next time you hit ctrl option
 command down you will get the last voice you used.
 
 hth
 
 On 9/8/11, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users.
 
 I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my
 mac.
 Do I just by a voice and install?
 Where do I buy that voice?
 Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what
 advantages is there to it.
 Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document
 with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go
 to preferences to change it.
 Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different
 character typing?
 Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how
 to go about installing voices.
 ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also
 complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it
 on the fly?
 
 Thank you in advance for any help!
 Rachel
 
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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Rachel,

Lion has its little problems, but on the whole, it's working OK.

For multilingual users, Lion is great! It includes languages such as Chinese, 
Russian and Greek that don't use the Latin alphabet.

Upgrading to Lion is much cheaper than buying additional language packs.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose 
 some of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis. 
 Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it.
 RM

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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Rachel magario
thanks Anne,

Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being 
doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read 
in portuguese and spanish at the moment.
If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that?
thanks again.
Rachel.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Hello Rachel,
 
 Lion has its little problems, but on the whole, it's working OK.
 
 For multilingual users, Lion is great! It includes languages such as Chinese, 
 Russian and Greek that don't use the Latin alphabet.
 
 Upgrading to Lion is much cheaper than buying additional language packs.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2011, at 13:49, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose 
 some of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis. 
 Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it.
 RM
 
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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Rachel,

For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without crashing 
the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by 
Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for 
subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion where 
you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been enjoying 
being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of voices. 
Previously, I just had English and French.

I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered getting 
them had French voices been available from Apple.

I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision users. 
I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind myself. But my 
husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their liking.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote:

 thanks Anne,
 
 Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being 
 doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to 
 read in portuguese and spanish at the moment.
 If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that?
 thanks again.
 Rachel.

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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Rachel magario
Thanks Anne!
I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a 
change when I installed visiovoice.
I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very soon. 
But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac before I 
bring it on mine. If things go crazy on my computer during thesis, it would be 
horrible! But if lion behaves well, it might actually be a blessing, and things 
might run even better and somewhat more  organized.
Thanks! :)
Rachel

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Hello Rachel,
 
 For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without 
 crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by 
 Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for 
 subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion 
 where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been 
 enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of 
 voices. Previously, I just had English and French.
 
 I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered 
 getting them had French voices been available from Apple.
 
 I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision users. 
 I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind myself. But 
 my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their liking.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 thanks Anne,
 
 Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being 
 doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to 
 read in portuguese and spanish at the moment.
 If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that?
 thanks again.
 Rachel.
 
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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Just do a time machine backup before upgrading and you shouldn't have anything 
to worry about.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Rachel magario wrote:

 Thanks Anne!
 I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a 
 change when I installed visiovoice.
 I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very 
 soon. But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac 
 before I bring it on mine. If things go crazy on my computer during thesis, 
 it would be horrible! But if lion behaves well, it might actually be a 
 blessing, and things might run even better and somewhat more  organized.
 Thanks! :)
 Rachel
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Rachel,
 
 For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without 
 crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by 
 Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for 
 subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion 
 where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been 
 enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of 
 voices. Previously, I just had English and French.
 
 I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered 
 getting them had French voices been available from Apple.
 
 I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision 
 users. I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind 
 myself. But my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their 
 liking.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 thanks Anne,
 
 Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not 
 being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of 
 stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment.
 If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that?
 thanks again.
 Rachel.
 
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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Rachel magario
I did that. my question is how do I put every thing back later? 
Thanks,
Rachel.
On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Just do a time machine backup before upgrading and you shouldn't have 
 anything to worry about.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 Thanks Anne!
 I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a 
 change when I installed visiovoice.
 I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very 
 soon. But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac 
 before I bring it on mine. If things go crazy on my computer during thesis, 
 it would be horrible! But if lion behaves well, it might actually be a 
 blessing, and things might run even better and somewhat more  organized.
 Thanks! :)
 Rachel
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Rachel,
 
 For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without 
 crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by 
 Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for 
 subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion 
 where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been 
 enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of 
 voices. Previously, I just had English and French.
 
 I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered 
 getting them had French voices been available from Apple.
 
 I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision 
 users. I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind 
 myself. But my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their 
 liking.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 thanks Anne,
 
 Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not 
 being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of 
 stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment.
 If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that?
 thanks again.
 Rachel.
 
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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Rachel magario
where is the system voice pup up?
I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech.

On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:

 You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the
 system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht
 you can download, but only if you are using lion. If you're on snow
 leopard you're goign to have to either upgrade or buy voices.
 
 Then on voice over you, once you have donwloaded the voices, control
 option command right and left arrow until you find voice and then down
 arrow. When you change a voice, the next time you hit ctrl option
 command down you will get the last voice you used.
 
 hth
 
 On 9/8/11, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users.
 
 I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my
 mac.
 Do I just by a voice and install?
 Where do I buy that voice?
 Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what
 advantages is there to it.
 Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document
 with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go
 to preferences to change it.
 Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different
 character typing?
 Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how
 to go about installing voices.
 ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also
 complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it
 on the fly?
 
 Thank you in advance for any help!
 Rachel
 
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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Rachel,

I find it easier to download the voices from VoiceOver Utility, category 
Speech. Click the Default Voice menu button and go down to Customise. Press 
Return and navigate right to the search box where you can type in the language 
you want such as Spanish, and the appropriate voices will be shown in the table 
to the right. Interact with it and press VO-Space on the voice you want, then 
navigate right and click on OK. Software Update will be launched.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Sep 2011, at 19:35, Rachel magario wrote:

 where is the system voice pup up?
 I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech.

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Re: multilingual use

2011-09-08 Thread Rachel magario
great thanks, I did it! works like a charm. Thank you all who helped on this!
You definitely saved my day, and month and year... :)
Cheers,
Rachel

On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Hello Rachel,
 
 I find it easier to download the voices from VoiceOver Utility, category 
 Speech. Click the Default Voice menu button and go down to Customise. Press 
 Return and navigate right to the search box where you can type in the 
 language you want such as Spanish, and the appropriate voices will be shown 
 in the table to the right. Interact with it and press VO-Space on the voice 
 you want, then navigate right and click on OK. Software Update will be 
 launched.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2011, at 19:35, Rachel magario wrote:
 
 where is the system voice pup up?
 I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech.
 
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multilingual use

2011-09-07 Thread Rachel magario
Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users.

I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my mac.
Do I just by a voice and install?
Where do I buy that voice?
Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what 
advantages is there to it.
Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document 
with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go to 
preferences to change it.
Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different 
character typing?
Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how to 
go about installing voices.
ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also 
complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it on 
the fly?

Thank you in advance for any help!
Rachel

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