Re: multilingual use
You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht you can download, but only if you are using lion. If you're on snow leopard you're goign to have to either upgrade or buy voices. Then on voice over you, once you have donwloaded the voices, control option command right and left arrow until you find voice and then down arrow. When you change a voice, the next time you hit ctrl option command down you will get the last voice you used. hth On 9/8/11, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users. I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my mac. Do I just by a voice and install? Where do I buy that voice? Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what advantages is there to it. Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go to preferences to change it. Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different character typing? Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how to go about installing voices. ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it on the fly? Thank you in advance for any help! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose some of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis. Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it. RM On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote: You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht you can download, but only if you are using lion. If you're on snow leopard you're goign to have to either upgrade or buy voices. Then on voice over you, once you have donwloaded the voices, control option command right and left arrow until you find voice and then down arrow. When you change a voice, the next time you hit ctrl option command down you will get the last voice you used. hth On 9/8/11, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users. I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my mac. Do I just by a voice and install? Where do I buy that voice? Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what advantages is there to it. Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go to preferences to change it. Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different character typing? Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how to go about installing voices. ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it on the fly? Thank you in advance for any help! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
Hello Rachel, Lion has its little problems, but on the whole, it's working OK. For multilingual users, Lion is great! It includes languages such as Chinese, Russian and Greek that don't use the Latin alphabet. Upgrading to Lion is much cheaper than buying additional language packs. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 13:49, Rachel magario wrote: Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose some of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis. Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it. RM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
thanks Anne, Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment. If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that? thanks again. Rachel. On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, Lion has its little problems, but on the whole, it's working OK. For multilingual users, Lion is great! It includes languages such as Chinese, Russian and Greek that don't use the Latin alphabet. Upgrading to Lion is much cheaper than buying additional language packs. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 13:49, Rachel magario wrote: Hmm, is lion working pretty well so far? I was afraid to up grade and lose some of my productivity since I am right in the tornado of my thesis. Thanks for the info! Much appreciate it. RM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
Hello Rachel, For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of voices. Previously, I just had English and French. I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered getting them had French voices been available from Apple. I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision users. I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind myself. But my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their liking. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote: thanks Anne, Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment. If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that? thanks again. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
Thanks Anne! I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a change when I installed visiovoice. I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very soon. But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac before I bring it on mine. If things go crazy on my computer during thesis, it would be horrible! But if lion behaves well, it might actually be a blessing, and things might run even better and somewhat more organized. Thanks! :) Rachel On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of voices. Previously, I just had English and French. I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered getting them had French voices been available from Apple. I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision users. I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind myself. But my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their liking. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote: thanks Anne, Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment. If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that? thanks again. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
Hi, Just do a time machine backup before upgrading and you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Thanks Anne! I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a change when I installed visiovoice. I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very soon. But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac before I bring it on mine. If things go crazy on my computer during thesis, it would be horrible! But if lion behaves well, it might actually be a blessing, and things might run even better and somewhat more organized. Thanks! :) Rachel On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of voices. Previously, I just had English and French. I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered getting them had French voices been available from Apple. I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision users. I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind myself. But my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their liking. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote: thanks Anne, Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment. If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that? thanks again. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
I did that. my question is how do I put every thing back later? Thanks, Rachel. On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Just do a time machine backup before upgrading and you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Rachel magario wrote: Thanks Anne! I am totally blind my self too, maybe this is why I did not see much of a change when I installed visiovoice. I am thinking I will have to be courageous and up grade to lion here very soon. But, I'll see if my awesome mother let me test drive lion on her mac before I bring it on mine. If things go crazy on my computer during thesis, it would be horrible! But if lion behaves well, it might actually be a blessing, and things might run even better and somewhat more organized. Thanks! :) Rachel On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, For Snow Leopard and below, the only voices that work properly without crashing the system are the Infovox iVox voices made by Acapela and sold by Assistiveware. They cost €99 for the first language pack and €49.50 for subsequent packs. That's why I said you'd be better off upgrading to Lion where you can get as many voices as you like for no extra cost. I've been enjoying being able to add German, Spanish and Italian to my collection of voices. Previously, I just had English and French. I still prefer the Acapela voices, but probably wouldn't have bothered getting them had French voices been available from Apple. I remember you asked about VisioVoice. This is software for low vision users. I'm afraid I don't understand it very well, being totally blind myself. But my husband helps low vision users set up VisioVoice to their liking. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 15:03, Rachel magario wrote: thanks Anne, Right now I am actully pressing for portuguese and spanish. I have not being doing much with chinese and arabic right now. but I have loads of stuff to read in portuguese and spanish at the moment. If I did want to buy a couple of voices, where would I go for that? thanks again. Rachel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
where is the system voice pup up? I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech. On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote: You need to go to system preferences and click on customize, on the system voice popup menu. There you will find a table of voices taht you can download, but only if you are using lion. If you're on snow leopard you're goign to have to either upgrade or buy voices. Then on voice over you, once you have donwloaded the voices, control option command right and left arrow until you find voice and then down arrow. When you change a voice, the next time you hit ctrl option command down you will get the last voice you used. hth On 9/8/11, Rachel magario maga...@gmail.com wrote: Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users. I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my mac. Do I just by a voice and install? Where do I buy that voice? Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what advantages is there to it. Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go to preferences to change it. Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different character typing? Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how to go about installing voices. ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it on the fly? Thank you in advance for any help! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
Hello Rachel, I find it easier to download the voices from VoiceOver Utility, category Speech. Click the Default Voice menu button and go down to Customise. Press Return and navigate right to the search box where you can type in the language you want such as Spanish, and the appropriate voices will be shown in the table to the right. Interact with it and press VO-Space on the voice you want, then navigate right and click on OK. Software Update will be launched. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 19:35, Rachel magario wrote: where is the system voice pup up? I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multilingual use
great thanks, I did it! works like a charm. Thank you all who helped on this! You definitely saved my day, and month and year... :) Cheers, Rachel On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Rachel, I find it easier to download the voices from VoiceOver Utility, category Speech. Click the Default Voice menu button and go down to Customise. Press Return and navigate right to the search box where you can type in the language you want such as Spanish, and the appropriate voices will be shown in the table to the right. Interact with it and press VO-Space on the voice you want, then navigate right and click on OK. Software Update will be launched. Cheers, Anne On 8 Sep 2011, at 19:35, Rachel magario wrote: where is the system voice pup up? I don't see that, I only see language and text or speech. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
multilingual use
Hello every one, but more in specific multiple language users. I am struggling a lot to figure out how to have other languages added to my mac. Do I just by a voice and install? Where do I buy that voice? Anyone using VisioVoice? I tried, but I did not see how it works and what advantages is there to it. Also, how to change the languages in the fly. Sometimes I read one document with more than one language on it and it is quite complicated having to go to preferences to change it. Anyone using languages such as Chinese, or arabic that requires different character typing? Would appreciate any information you can give me and clarifications of how to go about installing voices. ah also, I have been using my touch for different languages, but is also complicated to switch from one language to another, is there a way to do it on the fly? Thank you in advance for any help! Rachel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.