Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Ian Harrison]

Hi all, this is what I now have to do.

I have to remember at least the first character of my user name and type it in. 
Then just before predictions on the keyboard a list of options comes up if you 
use the same user name for more than one web site. If you tap on the correct 
one, the rest of the name and password is filled in. I then click on go or 
login. I have no need to use figerprint reader.

Cheers
Ian
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 00:30, Danny Keys  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling 
> user names and passwords, don't see it.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  <mailto:mariatal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
>> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
>> button. 
>>  
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 
>> 10
>>  
>> From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>>  
>> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
>> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of 
>> the responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but 
>> how does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the 
>> prediction above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to 
>> know about it. Thanks.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
>> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
>> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
>> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
>> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
>> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
>> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
>> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after 
>> tapping a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the 
>> low mobility interfaces.
>>  
>>  
>>   Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>>  
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Brian Fischler]

Hi Alex,

Thanks so much for this command as I did not know it and just used it for the 
first time works great. Appreciate it. Best, Brian

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In High Sierra, for non-password fields, the Auto-Fill is working, albeit 
> somewhat differently than in the past.  If you tab to the field, VO will 
> announce "Username" and something about auto-fill available.  You can type 
> the first letter or two of the auto-fill field, then arrow through the 
> options.  Press return when you have the one you desire.  I have yet to 
> determine how to deal with auto-fill passwords from Keychain though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:53, Brian Fischler  <mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Actually this auto fill issue is in deed a bug in iOS and Mac OS High Sierra 
> but not a VoiceOVer specific bug as I had a lengthy conversation last week 
> with Apple accessibility as on the Mac the auto fill fields stopped working. 
> They are well aware of it and are working on a fix. On the Mac and I do not 
> know if the iPhone is behaving in the same manner but when you are on your 
> user name you can with QuickNav turned off hit your down arrow and then enter 
> and the fields will be populated. The issue is VoiceOVer of course does not 
> tell you that you are on a user name for this site. I imagine iOS is 
> performing similar behavior. We will just have to keep our fingers crossed 
> that Apple gets this fixed and fixes the VoiceOVer issues with it as well.
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Maria Reyes > <mailto:mariatal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Danny, 
>> To enable Touch ID go to settings > touch ID and passcode then follow the 
>> steps. Then go to the website. Make sure you are after the prediction bar or 
>> the keyboard. I think the button is called autofill contact. 
>>  
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 
>> 10
>>  
>> From: Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>>  
>> I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was 
>> hoping to find it to help with this issue.
>>  
>> Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> .
>>  
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
>> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
>> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
>> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
>> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
>> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
>> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
>> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after 
>> tapping a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the 
>> low mobility interfaces.
>>  
>>  
>>   Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>>  
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Alex Hall]

On macOS, I just hit cmd-shift-a when the page loads. The nice thing is that I 
don't even have to find a text field. The down side is that it auto-fills the 
first saved username/password in the list, so if I've saved more than one, I 
don't know what would happen. Still, it's faster than finding a field, 
arrowing, and pressing enter.

--
Alex Hall




> On Apr 16, 2018, at 14:09, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In High Sierra, for non-password fields, the Auto-Fill is working, albeit 
> somewhat differently than in the past.  If you tab to the field, VO will 
> announce "Username" and something about auto-fill available.  You can type 
> the first letter or two of the auto-fill field, then arrow through the 
> options.  Press return when you have the one you desire.  I have yet to 
> determine how to deal with auto-fill passwords from Keychain though.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:53, Brian Fischler  <mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Actually this auto fill issue is in deed a bug in iOS and Mac OS High Sierra 
> but not a VoiceOVer specific bug as I had a lengthy conversation last week 
> with Apple accessibility as on the Mac the auto fill fields stopped working. 
> They are well aware of it and are working on a fix. On the Mac and I do not 
> know if the iPhone is behaving in the same manner but when you are on your 
> user name you can with QuickNav turned off hit your down arrow and then enter 
> and the fields will be populated. The issue is VoiceOVer of course does not 
> tell you that you are on a user name for this site. I imagine iOS is 
> performing similar behavior. We will just have to keep our fingers crossed 
> that Apple gets this fixed and fixes the VoiceOVer issues with it as well.
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Maria Reyes > <mailto:mariatal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Danny, 
>> To enable Touch ID go to settings > touch ID and passcode then follow the 
>> steps. Then go to the website. Make sure you are after the prediction bar or 
>> the keyboard. I think the button is called autofill contact. 
>>  
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 
>> 10
>>  
>> From: Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>>  
>> I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was 
>> hoping to find it to help with this issue.
>>  
>> Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> .
>>  
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
>> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
>> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
>> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
>> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
>> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
>> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
>> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after 
>> tapping a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the 
>> low mobility interfaces.
>>  
>>  
>>   Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>>  
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for 

Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In High Sierra, for non-password fields, the Auto-Fill is working, albeit 
somewhat differently than in the past.  If you tab to the field, VO will 
announce "Username" and something about auto-fill available.  You can type the 
first letter or two of the auto-fill field, then arrow through the options.  
Press return when you have the one you desire.  I have yet to determine how to 
deal with auto-fill passwords from Keychain though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:53, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hi guys,

Actually this auto fill issue is in deed a bug in iOS and Mac OS High Sierra 
but not a VoiceOVer specific bug as I had a lengthy conversation last week with 
Apple accessibility as on the Mac the auto fill fields stopped working. They 
are well aware of it and are working on a fix. On the Mac and I do not know if 
the iPhone is behaving in the same manner but when you are on your user name 
you can with QuickNav turned off hit your down arrow and then enter and the 
fields will be populated. The issue is VoiceOVer of course does not tell you 
that you are on a user name for this site. I imagine iOS is performing similar 
behavior. We will just have to keep our fingers crossed that Apple gets this 
fixed and fixes the VoiceOVer issues with it as well.

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Maria Reyes  <mailto:mariatal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Danny, 
> To enable Touch ID go to settings > touch ID and passcode then follow the 
> steps. Then go to the website. Make sure you are after the prediction bar or 
> the keyboard. I think the button is called autofill contact. 
>  
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
>  
> From: Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was hoping 
> to find it to help with this issue.
>  
> Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com 
> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> .
>  
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Brian Fischler]

Hi guys,

Actually this auto fill issue is in deed a bug in iOS and Mac OS High Sierra 
but not a VoiceOVer specific bug as I had a lengthy conversation last week with 
Apple accessibility as on the Mac the auto fill fields stopped working. They 
are well aware of it and are working on a fix. On the Mac and I do not know if 
the iPhone is behaving in the same manner but when you are on your user name 
you can with QuickNav turned off hit your down arrow and then enter and the 
fields will be populated. The issue is VoiceOVer of course does not tell you 
that you are on a user name for this site. I imagine iOS is performing similar 
behavior. We will just have to keep our fingers crossed that Apple gets this 
fixed and fixes the VoiceOVer issues with it as well.

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Danny, 
> To enable Touch ID go to settings > touch ID and passcode then follow the 
> steps. Then go to the website. Make sure you are after the prediction bar or 
> the keyboard. I think the button is called autofill contact. 
>  
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
>  
> From: Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was hoping 
> to find it to help with this issue.
>  
> Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com 
> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> .
>  
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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RE: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

Danny, 
To enable Touch ID go to settings > touch ID and passcode then follow the 
steps. Then go to the website. Make sure you are after the prediction bar or 
the keyboard. I think the button is called autofill contact. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was hoping 
to find it to help with this issue.

Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com .

On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.

We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

--
Alex Hall





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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Jonathan Cohn]

I did not see any support for auto fill in assistive touch where I was hoping 
to find it to help with this issue.

Oh well, I guess there is accessibil...@apple.com 
 .

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>> 
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
>> --
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>> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

Hello,
Ok, this what I can do so far.
I can double tap on the prediction after I activate the email or user name 
field. Then the user name and password are displayed. However, O do not see 
anywhere a button for finger print. Nor does the finger print button work. Is 
it necessary to activate finger print id first? Cause I sure cant find any way 
to activate the home button/finger print.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, the button is right before the prediction bar and the keyboard.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Danny Keys
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling 
> user names and passwords, don't see it.
>  
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
> button.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
> responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how 
> does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction 
> above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> --
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

Hello,
Thanks. I'll give it another try.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, the button is right before the prediction bar and the keyboard.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Danny Keys
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling 
> user names and passwords, don't see it.
>  
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
> button.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
> responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how 
> does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction 
> above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
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RE: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, the button is right before the prediction bar and the keyboard.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Danny Keys
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

Hello,

Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling user 
names and passwords, don't see it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
button. 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
 
Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to allow 
auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how does 
that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction above the 
keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks.

--
Alex Hall
 
 
 



On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
 
Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.
 
 
  Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn





On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
 
We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

--
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

Hello,

Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling user 
names and passwords, don't see it.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
> button.
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>  
> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
> responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how 
> does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction 
> above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>  
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
>  
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>  
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
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RE: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
button. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to allow 
auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how does 
that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction above the 
keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks.

--
Alex Hall





On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and the 
iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in the 
betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.

We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big annoyance. 
The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no longer appears 
automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the option to fill it 
in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere on the page and thus 
dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things back to how they were? 
Thanks for any ideas.

--
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to allow 
auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of the 
responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but how does 
that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the prediction above the 
keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to know about it. Thanks.

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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>> 
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Maria Reyes]

I think when you tap the autofill button you will be asked for your touch/Face 
ID. I store my passwords in 1Password, so I haven't used autofill. 

Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping 
> a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low 
> mobility interfaces.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>> 
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause logins 
or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how even a 
carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, though I 
would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any case, in 
addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari Autofill 
information, they now require that autofill only works after tapping a point on 
the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the low mobility interfaces.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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> 
> Hi all,
> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed in 
> final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, and 
> the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed this in 
> the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
> 
> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Jonathan Cohn]

There was information in the release notes indicating that autofill was not as 
auto as before. I have not personally played much with autofill, and not at all 
since upgrading.

>From one google search…
iOS 11.3 requires Safari users to tap in web pages to AutoFill their username 
and password. This is extra work for you, but it's also more secure. Another 
change adds warnings when entering private information onto non-encrypted pages.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Danny Keys  wrote:
> 
>> hello,
> 
> It sure doesn't work for me. After I updated to 11.3, all of my fields that 
> have passwords and quit working. When I go into settings and check passwords 
> they're all there it's still doesn't work.
> 
> I called Apple accessibility about this they were unable to help me with it.
> 
> Oh well that's what updates do.
> 
> 
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Danny Keys]

> hello,

It sure doesn't work for me. After I updated to 11.3, all of my fields that 
have passwords and quit working. When I go into settings and check passwords 
they're all there it's still doesn't work.

I called Apple accessibility about this they were unable to help me with it.

Oh well that's what updates do.


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