Re: Parallels Desktop again.

[Maurice A. Mines]

Aira, or  by my eyes is  your  friend to  start.btw this  is the. Best  
solution for all  members of. The  group. 


> On Aug 26, 2024, at 19:16, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> So I have installed a trial of parallels desktop and it has started ub but I 
> can not come any further from where I am.
> What does:
> kToolbarTitleLabelItemId text mean?
> How do I come any further?
> Bless.
> /A
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Re: Parallels desktop for Mac frustrations.

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

On 16/11/23 14:47, Maurice A. Mines wrote:

My question to the group is if the time to go back to VMware? Will VMware run 
better when it comes to dealing with USB cable communication?

I don't know, but VMWare at least has an accessibility statement:

https://www.vmware.com/help/accessibility.html


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Re: Parallels desktop for Mac frustrations.

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi 

I recently had my own difficulties with Parallels. 
A few weeks ago I bought a brand new MacBook Pro 16 with M2 Pro, 32gb ram and 
1tb ssd for using it with Parallels Pro 19 running Windows 11 and ArM Jaws 2023.
First of all Parallels isn’t very accessible with Voice Over (which I knew 
before purchasing), but did it anyway. When all was installed and running I 
shouldn’t have to worry about Parallels’ inaccessibility. Which was mostly 
true. My problem with Parallels was certain  keyboard keys like control and 
option were giving me headaches. More than often when pressing one of these 
(sometimes in  combination with other keys) the focus switched to MacOS or no 
focus at all. Where there wasn’t any speech either. This was true for windowd 
and full screen.
We coulnd’t get this fixed in parallels settings unfortunately. For text 
editing these keyboard keys are essential in Windows. Other issue was JAWS was 
a tad sluggish. Perhaps the ARM version of Jaws is’nt optimal yet. The MacBook 
should have been powerful enough to run everything smoothly. 
I couldn’t live with it. So I returned the MacBook to Apple and got my full 
money back from Parallels too.
 Parallels webpage to ask for a refund I couldn’t do myself, cause the captcha 
didn’t have an audio challenge.
I haven’t tried VM Fusion myself, but from what I read everywhere Parallels is 
the best Apple Silicon virtual machine software. NOt for me though. 
I am going to buy a much cheaper Mac and a Windows pc to use next to each 
other. 

Ronald


> Op 16 nov. 2023, om 20:47 heeft Maurice A. Mines  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hello everyone, I'm writing because I'm extremely frustrated with many issues 
> in this software. The largest issue that I'm experiencing is the problem 
> software not recognizing any comports. I think this is a function of my arm 
> based Mac. I in a licensed radio amateur. That means I must use radio 
> programming software. This software according to the company that produces 
> the software should run in a virtual machine that of course is the Arm 64 
> version of Windows. This appears to be true on the surface, meaning that the 
> program, and your programs will install. Unfortunately when it comes to 
> actually connecting the radios to the computer, because of parallels 
> insistence that there must be an inaccessible dialog box that demands that 
> you okay the communications port to be opened meaning it identifies the cable 
> connected properly but then refuses to actually allow USB data to pass.
> 
> My question to the group is if the time to go back to VMware? Will VMware run 
> better when it comes to dealing with USB cable communication?
> 
> Two a completely different frustration. It appears that I cannot do anything 
> without the ubiquitous search box from popping up. Not to mention when the 
> search box isn't popping up, Microsoft teams takes its place. The only 
> workaround that I found it seems to be effective for these two situations is 
> to turn voiceover, and interact with the OS X portion of the computer. 
> Meaning that I go back to doing things on my Mac, meaning going between 
> Windows. Navigating between Windows that are open using voiceover. This 
> approach works about 90% of the time. The other approach is that if there are 
> too many applications open, and my MacBook Pro begins to freeze, I can go 
> over to the force quit applet, and pick the application that is causing all 
> the trouble and forcibly stop it from running.
> 
> The final frustration occurs when I even attempt to which out to the company 
> for technical support. While I have no problem with "signing in" it would be 
> nice if my only option were not to have a chat and then t. Just simply 
> because most of the time those chat clients are not accessible when one uses 
> either voiceover, or jaws 
> 
> So far, it appears that the only positive take away is the fact that I can 
> use dictation software without too many problems.
> 
> I am curious to know what people on the list thank you? Just for the record, 
> I have the  professional addition of parallels desktop for Mac. I am 
> currently running Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 on aM2  Mac.
> 
> Does anyone have any pearls of wisdom regarding everything I've dictated 
> about? That brings me to the end of this, if there's something that has been 
> written about that dictation software did not catch, please ask me what did I 
> really intend to say. I will be happy to clear up any  unintended errors that 
> the dictation software they have created.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice mines.
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Re: Parallels ?

[Ben Constantini]

Thanks Simon , I may look into vm fusion .

Ben Constantini
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> On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:27 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Parallels is a vm environment,
>  
> Doesn’t work well for us if you use a screen reader,
> Or at least it didn’t
>  Virtual box or vm fusion are what you want to look at if you don’t want to 
> go with bootcamp.
>  
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> Subject: Parallels ?
>  
> I have a police scanner that can only be programmed with Windows based 
> software .  I heard there is a program called Parallels that may work with 
> the Mac . Has anyone had experience  with it ?
>  
> Ben C.  N2kpv 
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RE: Parallels ?

[Simon Fogarty]

Parallels is a vm environment,

Doesn’t work well for us if you use a screen reader,
Or at least it didn’t
 Virtual box or vm fusion are what you want to look at if you don’t want to go 
with bootcamp.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:55 AM
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Subject: Parallels ?

I have a police scanner that can only be programmed with Windows based software 
.  I heard there is a program called Parallels that may work with the Mac . Has 
anyone had experience  with it ?

Ben C.  N2kpv
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Re: Parallels ?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes and its not accessible.
So you have to stick with Vmware or Bootcamp or if you’re into command promt 
commands you might want to try virtualbox.
/A

> 13 aug. 2019 kl. 14:55 skrev N2KPV :
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> I have a police scanner that can only be programmed with Windows based 
> software .  I heard there is a program called Parallels that may work with 
> the Mac . Has anyone had experience  with it ?
> 
> Ben C.  N2kpv 
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Re: Parallels ?

[Ben Constantini]

Tnx Maurice , I will have to investigate  VMware fusion.

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> On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, maurice.mines  wrote:
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> Hi, as far as Pino parallels is not really usable unless something has 
> changed. But VMware fusion is very usable. Both software packages do the same 
> thing. That is virtualize child operating systems when running OS X as the 
> host. I hope this helps.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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> On 13 Aug 2019, at 5:55, N2KPV wrote:
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> I have a police scanner that can only be programmed with Windows based 
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> the Mac . Has anyone had experience  with it ?
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Re: Parallels ?

[maurice.mines]

Hi, as far as Pino parallels is not really usable unless something has 
changed. But VMware fusion is very usable. Both software packages do the 
same thing. That is virtualize child operating systems when running OS X 
as the host. I hope this helps.


Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Board member national Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
VP national Federation of the blind of California Bakersfield chapter.
US amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Sprint IP relay number 661-246-3110.


On 13 Aug 2019, at 5:55, N2KPV wrote:


I have a police scanner that can only be programmed with Windows based
software .  I heard there is a program called Parallels that may work 
with

the Mac . Has anyone had experience  with it ?

Ben C.  N2kpv

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Re: Parallels ?

[Ben Constantini]

Thanks Anders .I guess I have some homework to do .

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> On Aug 13, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Yes and its not accessible.
> So you have to stick with Vmware or Bootcamp or if you’re into command promt 
> commands you might want to try virtualbox.
> /A
> 
>> 13 aug. 2019 kl. 14:55 skrev N2KPV > >:
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>> software .  I heard there is a program called Parallels that may work with 
>> the Mac . Has anyone had experience  with it ?
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RE: parallels access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Chris,

Yes it’s been around since I think version 6 of parallels,

It allows you to have a vm setup on your mac computer and then if your out and 
about and need to access your vm on that mac computer, you can setup parallels 
on your IOS device and then start the vm up running a windows session on your 
IOS device.

Only problem is that getting a screan reader like jaws to work is a no go to an 
absolute pig!

As I stated in an earlier message,
VM and citrix do a version also

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Huh?  Parallels is available for iOS?  This is new news to me.  LOL!  I wonder 
what on earth it does?  Now, you've got me curious.
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Subject: SV: parallels access

Ah my bad..
I should have writed parallels access for ipad

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My point was, you asked about Parallels, which is a mac based program which 
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out Fusion.  How was I to know ahead of time you didn't have a mac, and just 
further for your info.  No.  Not everyone on here has a mac, let alone a 
macbook, but that wasn't what you were asking.

You were asking about a piece of software which was designed to run on a mac.  
You asked if it was accessible, I said no, then gave you an alternative.  I'm 
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I'm done trying to answer this particular thread, as I see it going absolutely 
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Subject: SV: parallels access

What? So all here own a macbook?
Don’t think so
Some people here maybe own a ipad only
Or maybe only iphone..

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Well, you did! ask about this on a mac based mailing list, so, the assumption 
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Subject: SV: parallels access

Yes if I owned a macbook

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Ämne: Re: parallels access

Last I knew, no.  Not in the least.  You'd be way better off with VMWare Fusion.

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Sounds intresting
But are it accessible?
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RE: parallels access

[Simon Fogarty]

I tried it a couple of months back having been told it was accessible

I can confirm it’s accessibility is absolute crap.
Even the installation process needed sighted assistance to get things installed.


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Re: parallels access

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Huh?  Parallels is available for iOS?  This is new news to me.  LOL!  I wonder 
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  Ah my bad..

  I should have writed parallels access for ipad

   

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  My point was, you asked about Parallels, which is a mac based program which 
runs on a mac.  This is why I wrote and said  it's not accessible, but to check 
out Fusion.  How was I to know ahead of time you didn't have a mac, and just 
further for your info.  No.  Not everyone on here has a mac, let alone a 
macbook, but that wasn't what you were asking.

   

  You were asking about a piece of software which was designed to run on a mac. 
 You asked if it was accessible, I said no, then gave you an alternative.  I'm 
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  I'm done trying to answer this particular thread, as I see it going 
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Subject: SV: parallels access

 

What? So all here own a macbook?

Don’t think so

Some people here maybe own a ipad only

Or maybe only iphone..

 

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Well, you did! ask about this on a mac based mailing list, so, the 
assumption was made.  NO offense intended.  I mean that with all due respect.  
Smile.

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  Subject: SV: parallels access

   

  Yes if I owned a macbook

   

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  Last I knew, no.  Not in the least.  You'd be way better off with VMWare 
Fusion.

   

  http://www.vmware.com/fusion

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Subject: parallels access

 

Sounds intresting

But are it accessible?

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Re: parallels access

[Anders Holmberg]

Its not.
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Re: parallels access

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My point was, you asked about Parallels, which is a mac based program which 
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  Subject: SV: parallels access


  What? So all here own a macbook?

  Don’t think so

  Some people here maybe own a ipad only

  Or maybe only iphone..

   

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Subject: SV: parallels access

 

Yes if I owned a macbook

 

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Last I knew, no.  Not in the least.  You'd be way better off with VMWare 
Fusion.

 

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  Sounds intresting

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  Yes if I owned a macbook

   

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  Last I knew, no.  Not in the least.  You'd be way better off with VMWare 
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Sounds intresting

But are it accessible?

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Last I knew, no.  Not in the least.  You'd be way better off with VMWare Fusion.

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  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:15 AM
  Subject: parallels access


  Sounds intresting

  But are it accessible?


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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Garry Turkington]

Hi

Are the VMware Tools installed in the Windows  guest?

Garry

On 7/14/15, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> Hmm, wonder if it doesn't like the odd number of cores. Maybe try
> dropping it to two. I'm assuming you're running 64-bit Windows since
> you're trying to allocate 16GB RAM. Are you on the latest updates of
> vmware? Windows beats on your hard drive but with an SSD, that shouldn't
> be holding things up.
>
> CB
>
> On 7/13/15 12:15 AM, Juan Hernandez wrote:
>> 3 cores and 16 gb ram.
>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> How much RAM and CPU have you allocated to your virtual machine?
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> On 7/12/15 9:50 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:
>>>> It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.
>>>>
>>>> I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really
>>>> bad.  use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be
>>>> as fast as a native environment, but I think by this time in the vm
>>>> software game they should have better speed.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the
>>>> screen reader is the one wo is lagging things down.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg"
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
>>>>> I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox
>>>>> but i don’t think so.
>>>>> /A
>>>>>> 12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some
>>>>>> development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a
>>>>>> slow computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb
>>>>>> ram, and 1tb ssd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have read that parallels is after than fusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bst,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juan
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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Hmm, wonder if it doesn't like the odd number of cores. Maybe try 
dropping it to two. I'm assuming you're running 64-bit Windows since 
you're trying to allocate 16GB RAM. Are you on the latest updates of 
vmware? Windows beats on your hard drive but with an SSD, that shouldn't 
be holding things up.


CB

On 7/13/15 12:15 AM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

3 cores and 16 gb ram.


On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

How much RAM and CPU have you allocated to your virtual machine?

CB

On 7/12/15 9:50 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.

I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really bad.  
use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be as fast as a 
native environment, but I think by this time in the vm software game they 
should have better speed.

I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the screen 
reader is the one wo is lagging things down.

Best,

On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.

What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility


Hi!
I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but i 
don’t think so.
/A

12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :

Hi All,

I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
ssd.

I have read that parallels is after than fusion.

Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bst,

Juan

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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Juan Hernandez]

you aren’t kidding.  once I plugged in a usb headset, it speed up to nearly 
full normal when I run windows natively.  I wonder why vmware can’t fix this.  
I wish I could get a headphone with multiple connections   at work, I need to 
ware headphones, and will it is really awkward to ware 2 headphones :) oh well. 
 speed is so much important in this case.

Thanks.
> On Jul 12, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that’s exactly what I meant: tell Fusion to treat your USB sound card 
> just as any other USB device.  The downside of course is that now your Mac 
> can’t share audio output with your VM, but it’s definitely a boost for 
> latency.
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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

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Yes, that’s exactly what I meant: tell Fusion to treat your USB sound card just 
as any other USB device.  The downside of course is that now your Mac can’t 
share audio output with your VM, but it’s definitely a boost for latency.

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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Juan Hernandez]

what do you mean? plug in a usb headset, and have windows route the audio 
through that when running in the vm?  Please elaborate 
> On Jul 12, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> What about audio?  Have you tried a USB audio interface or headset to see if 
> the latency is cut simply by avoiding VMWare sound emulation?  In my 
> experience, it often is.
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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

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What about audio?  Have you tried a USB audio interface or headset to see if 
the latency is cut simply by avoiding VMWare sound emulation?  In my 
experience, it often is.

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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Juan Hernandez]

3 cores and 16 gb ram.

> On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:12 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> How much RAM and CPU have you allocated to your virtual machine?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/12/15 9:50 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:
>> It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.
>> 
>> I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really 
>> bad.  use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be as 
>> fast as a native environment, but I think by this time in the vm software 
>> game they should have better speed.
>> 
>> I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the screen 
>> reader is the one wo is lagging things down.
>> 
>> Best,
>>> On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.
>>> 
>>> What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
>>> I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but 
>>> i don’t think so.
>>> /A
>>>> 12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
>>>> development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
>>>> computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 
>>>> 1tb ssd.
>>>> 
>>>> I have read that parallels is after than fusion.
>>>> 
>>>> Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?
>>>> 
>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Bst,
>>>> 
>>>> Juan
>>>> 
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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

How much RAM and CPU have you allocated to your virtual machine?

CB

On 7/12/15 9:50 PM, Juan Hernandez wrote:

It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.

I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really bad.  
use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be as fast as a 
native environment, but I think by this time in the vm software game they 
should have better speed.

I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the screen 
reader is the one wo is lagging things down.

Best,

On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.

What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility


Hi!
I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but i 
don’t think so.
/A

12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :

Hi All,

I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
ssd.

I have read that parallels is after than fusion.

Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bst,

Juan

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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Juan Hernandez]

It is really laggy when using jaws, whinnies, or nvda.

I need to use visual studio for work a lot, and well it just lags really bad.  
use of the keyboard feels very sluggish.  I know it will never be as fast as a 
native environment, but I think by this time in the vm software game they 
should have better speed.

I wonder if using the vm with out a screen reader is after, if the screen 
reader is the one wo is lagging things down.

Best,
> On Jul 12, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.
> 
> What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility
> 
> 
> Hi!
> I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
> I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but i 
> don’t think so.
> /A
>> 12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
>> development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
>> computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
>> ssd.
>> 
>> I have read that parallels is after than fusion.
>> 
>> Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Bst,
>> 
>> Juan
>> 
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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

There's not a command line, and no.  It's still not accessible.

What's wrong with VMWare Fusion, if you don't mind me asking?

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anders Holmberg" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: parallels 10 accessibility


Hi!
I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but 
i don’t think so.

/A

12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :

Hi All,

I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 
1tb ssd.


I have read that parallels is after than fusion.

Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bst,

Juan

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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I tried it two years ago and at that time it wasn’t accessible.
I don’t know if there’s a command line interface for it like virtualbox but i 
don’t think so.
/A
> 12 juli 2015 kl. 02:22 skrev Juan Hernandez :
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> Hi All,
> 
> I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
> development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
> computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
> ssd.
> 
> I have read that parallels is after than fusion.
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> Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?
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> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: parallels 10 accessibility

[Devin Prater]

Unfortunately, it is not.
> On Jul 11, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
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> 
> I currently run vm fusion to load windows on my mac, so I can run some 
> development software.  Fusion can be very laggy, and I do not have a slow 
> computer.  I have a 2014 iMac, w/ i7 quad core 3.5ghz cpu, 32gb ram, and 1tb 
> ssd.
> 
> I have read that parallels is after than fusion.
> 
> Is the parallels interface accessible with voiceover on the mac?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Bst,
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> Juan
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Re: Parallels

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Its not accessible at all.
Sad because its cheeper than vmware.
/A
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> Hi all,
> 
> I hear a lot of people talking about VMWare on this list but don’t hear a lot 
> of discussion about Parallels for Mac. Is anybody using Parallels to run 
> Windows apps, as well as a screen reader, within OS X and how do you find its 
> accessibility and ease of use?
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Re: Parallels

[Grant Hardy]

Thanks all for confirming that Parallels is not accessible. That will make the 
purchasing decision easier. :)

Grant

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On Nov 14, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

Unless something has changed, parallels is not accessible with voiceover and 
the company seems to have no interest in fixing this.
Original message:
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> accessibility and ease of use?

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Re: Parallels

[Mike Arrigo]

Unless something has changed, parallels is not accessible with 
voiceover and the company seems to have no interest in fixing this.

Original message:

Hi all,


I hear a lot of people talking about VMWare on this list but don’t hear 
a lot of discussion about Parallels for Mac. Is anybody using Parallels 
to run Windows apps, as well as a screen reader, within OS X and how do 
you find its accessibility and ease of use?



Best,



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Re: Parallels

[christopher hallsworth]

That's because Parallels is horrible in terms of accessibility. In other words, 
inaccessible. Vmware is the total opposite though. Go figure.
> On 13 Nov 2014, at 23:49, Grant Hardy  wrote:
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Re: Parallels

[Marshall Scott]

Hi,
I checked this earlier this year and the problem wasn’t with running JAWS 
within Parallels.  The problem was with The Mac interface to Parallels.  The 
Menu bar wasn’t accessible with Voiceover.  I didn’t test any further.
Marshall

> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:
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> I heard that it wasn’t accessible at all.
> On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Grant Hardy  > wrote:
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>> 
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>> lot of discussion about Parallels for Mac. Is anybody using Parallels to run 
>> Windows apps, as well as a screen reader, within OS X and how do you find 
>> its accessibility and ease of use?
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>> 
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Re: Parallels

[Faisal ali]

I heard that it wasn’t accessible at all.
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Grant Hardy  wrote:

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> 
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Re: Parallels vo friendly?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No!
16 sep 2014 kl. 00:37 skrev Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
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> Hello is
> Parallels vo friendly?
> it allows virtual machines on mac as well
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Re: Parallels vo friendly?

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Hi Hank,
As far as I know, it's not VO friendly, ut VMWare fusion is. It's around $60.
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Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?

[Chris Blouch]

Second this. OSX is pretty good about not allowing one user on one 
account to mangle things for another user on another account. I suspect 
you'll be much happier running native on just another account that you 
use for development.


CB

On 12/20/12 1:18 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Why not just have a separate user account created for yourself instead 
of a vm? I suppose it could even be an account without administrative 
permissions though that might create some problems. It seems to me 
that if you want to get an experience using Mac OS and you have a Mac 
to use, you are just adding another layer of complication by making a 
vm instead. Not trying to argue if this is really what you want to do 
but I really think you would be better off just running Mac OS on the 
Mac in the normal way.



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On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jared > wrote:


My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as 
a secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. 
I'd like to do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure 
complete isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal 
command or do something else stupid that would mess something up 
system wide instead of just effecting a single user account on the 
machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the virtual 
machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which 
is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't 
be run as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen 
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Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?

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Why not just have a separate user account created for yourself instead of a vm? 
I suppose it could even be an account without administrative permissions though 
that might create some problems. It seems to me that if you want to get an 
experience using Mac OS and you have a Mac to use, you are just adding another 
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> My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a 
> secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to 
> do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in 
> case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that 
> would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user 
> account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the 
> virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which 
> is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run 
> as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support 
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Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?

[Mike Arrigo]

No question here, fusion is the way to go. Parallels is completely 
inaccessible. People have been asking them to fix that for years, and 
they have no interest in doing so. Go with fusion.

Original message:
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secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd 
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isolation just in case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do 
something else stupid that would mess something up system wide instead 
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Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?

[Les Kriegler]

My understanding is that Parallels is not accessible with VoiceOver.  YOur best 
and perhaps only option is Fusion if you wish to virtualize OSX.

Les
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> case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that 
> would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user 
> account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the 
> virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which 
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> as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support 
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Re: parallels 7 totally inaccessible

[Rachel magario]

Thanks Mike!
I just got an extension offer from them. Seriously, I hate that I already spent 
money on them the first time around.
Thanks for taking the time to check the accessibility, I appreciate it.
Cheers,
RM

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> Hi everyone, for those of you who were wondering about the new parallels 7, 
> it is totally inaccessible just as the previous versions are. When you launch 
> the application you have the minimize and zoom buttons, the only other thing 
> voiceover says is "unknown" Interacting or tabbing around does not do 
> anything. I remember some users notified the company of this back when 
> version 5 was out, so it's obvious that at least for now, the company has no 
> interest in resolving this. Fortunately, for virtualization, we can use 
> fusion which works well and is accessible. I've actually heard that parallels 
> is faster than fusion, have not compared them, but even if it is, if it's not 
> accessible, the extra speed is meaningless.
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Re: parallels?

[Mike Arrigo]

I have not looked at it, but maybe I will, though unless they have totally 
rewritten it, it will not be accessible. For some reason, why I have no idea, 
they chose to use nonstandard custom controls for everything instead of the 
standard coco framework. If you want to try it feel free, and I may do the 
same, but I don't have high hopes for it working.
On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> I was just wondering about this myself. Have you tried version 7 of Parallels 
> yet? I'm starting with the assumption that it still is not accessible, but I 
> plan to give each new version a fair try. If you've actually taken a look at 
> the new release first hand then I won't bother.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
> Paralels is not accessible and the company seems to have no interest in 
> fixing this.
> On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Anouk Radix wrote:
> 
>> Hi, All this talk about fusion has me wondering if anyone has tried 
>> parallels or if it is even accessible with vo? Not saying its better but its 
>> the other major virtualisation tool for the mac so I was wondering why there 
>> is no talk about it?
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Re: parallels?

[Justin Ekis]

Hi Mike,

I was just wondering about this myself. Have you tried version 7 of Parallels 
yet? I'm starting with the assumption that it still is not accessible, but I 
plan to give each new version a fair try. If you've actually taken a look at 
the new release first hand then I won't bother.

Thanks,

Justin


On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Paralels is not accessible and the company seems to have no interest in fixing 
this.
On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Anouk Radix wrote:

> Hi, All this talk about fusion has me wondering if anyone has tried parallels 
> or if it is even accessible with vo? Not saying its better but its the other 
> major virtualisation tool for the mac so I was wondering why there is no talk 
> about it?
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Re: parallels?

[Mike Arrigo]

Paralels is not accessible and the company seems to have no interest in fixing 
this.
On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Anouk Radix wrote:

> Hi, All this talk about fusion has me wondering if anyone has tried parallels 
> or if it is even accessible with vo? Not saying its better but its the other 
> major virtualisation tool for the mac so I was wondering why there is no talk 
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Re: parallels?

[Jon Cohn]

Version 7 just came out and I have seen no mention on the Blindness lists about 
it, so it is probably too early to say.  Earlier versions of Parralel did not 
allow display chaining or  as I understand it, and so were useless for jaws 
users.  

Jonathan

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> Hi, All this talk about fusion has me wondering if anyone has tried parallels 
> or if it is even accessible with vo? Not saying its better but its the other 
> major virtualisation tool for the mac so I was wondering why there is no talk 
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Re: Parallels or Fusion

[Mike Arrigo]

Go with Fusion, parallels is not accessible with voiceover. For some reason, 
when parallels was developed, the company chose to use all nonstandard 
controls, I have no idea why, but they seem to have no interest in correcting 
this.
On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote:

> I have herd discussion of Fusion on the list but not parallels.  
> 
> Can people comment on the difference between the two and if one is better 
> with VO than the other. 
> 
> 
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Re: Parallels or Fusion

[Ashley Cox]

yeah. 1 works with vo, one doesn't.
get fusion
ash

On 13/04/2011 21:23, Ronald McEwan wrote:

I have herd discussion of Fusion on the list but not parallels.

Can people comment on the difference between the two and if one is better with 
VO than the other.



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Re: Parallels or Fusion

[Rose Morales]

I hear that Parallels has less lag than Fusion does, but all discussion I've 
heard regarding Parallels seems to be only that it is inaccessible with VO. I 
know of a lot of us VI Mac users who use Fusion. I myself use it and find it to 
quite a smooth experience with VO.
Hth,
Rose

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> 
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> 
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Re: Parallels Desktop and accessibility with VO

[Chantel Cuddemi]

Paralles is inaccessible. Boot camp or fusion wioudl work. 
On Oct 13, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

> Hi there. I've been looking at running Windows on my Mac to play a couple 
> games and maybe to do a little streaming, probably with Stationplaylist. I 
> heard Sara's demo of Fusion and how incredibly bad the audio was almost like 
> a buffered stream or something. Is Parallels any better in this regard? How 
> is switching between Mac and the Windows virtual machine handled with 
> Parallels, and will it create conflicts with Jaws in hot key assignments? 
> This thing gave me trouble with trying Boot Camp under SL before, it's 
> probably from late 2007 or 08 and when it tells you to restart with the 
> Windows disk, it does, but stays on a blank screen with a flashing cursor and 
> no error no matter how long you wait, with two different XP disks, C on 
> startup, or any other way of telling it to boot from CD I know of. I called 
> Apple about this awhile ago, but they won't help me because the warranty I 
> had (all 6 months of it) when I got the thing used on Ebay was done for 
> anyways. There's no Apple store in my area. Is there any other way to force 
> windows xp down this thing since it's the laptop I have and the need is still 
> around for software that is Win only? I know it's definitely Intel, or it 
> says it is, never know with stuff you buy used, but it should be. Will I get 
> the multiple streams or whatever they call that where Jaws can mix with 
> whatever else I'm doing, running Parallels if I went that way? My dad 
> suggested that as he knew a guy for this company whose been using that for 
> awhile now. I don't know that they do much audio from the Windows side, but I 
> don't know how to take the HD out, stick it in a PC, and install Win XP on 
> the second partition that way to force it to do what Apple says is supported.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Cohn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: general Mac questions / Captchas
> 
> 
>> I don't have an answer for this, but I wonder...  VO-Shift-M on a
>> picture will bring up a contextual menu.  Could one put a send image
>> to Abby Reader as an acttion in there?
>> That would solve this problem.
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
 My next question is regarding using the Web. Captchas-need I say more? On
 the Windows side, one would remedy this problem by downloading and using
 Firefox with the Web Visum plug-in, which performed OCR on the captcha
 image
 and placed it on the clipboard for convenient pasting into the
 appropriate
 edit box. Also, if you didn't wish to use Firefox, there was usually an
 audio alternative. I am trying to create an iChat account on the Mac.
 Naturally, this requires the use of the AOL web site. Before I can
 proceed
 to create my account, the web site requires that a captcha be entered.
 Although they provide an audio alternative, Safari is completely unable
 to
 use it and the link (upon checking) is java scripted. I know that Firefox
 is
 not at all accessible on the Mac side (at least from the information I
 received on this list), so are there any alternatives for captchas? Also
 web-related, how do I go about obtaining Webkit-as some seem to think this
 a
 better web browsing solution in general? Your contributions, time, and
 patience are appreciated.
 Thanks:)
 Robert Hooper
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Re: Parallels Desktop and accessibility with VO

[Scott Granados]

DO not use parallels, it pretty much sucks the big one in terms of performance 
and fusion is much more accessible.

Also, audio is not a problem under fusion.  I'm not sure what you heard but I 
run tons of apps under fusion at the same time as apps on the Mac and no 
problems.  Streaming, the TTS for jfw, music, no problems at all.

Next, installing windows is pretty easy.  Just follow the prompts in 
fusion and you'll be good to go enough to start the internal tts with windows 
which will get you going enough to install JFW or Window-eyes (insert your 
screen reader of choice).

Enjoy
Scott




On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Brent Harding wrote:

> Hi there. I've been looking at running Windows on my Mac to play a couple 
> games and maybe to do a little streaming, probably with Stationplaylist. I 
> heard Sara's demo of Fusion and how incredibly bad the audio was almost like 
> a buffered stream or something. Is Parallels any better in this regard? How 
> is switching between Mac and the Windows virtual machine handled with 
> Parallels, and will it create conflicts with Jaws in hot key assignments? 
> This thing gave me trouble with trying Boot Camp under SL before, it's 
> probably from late 2007 or 08 and when it tells you to restart with the 
> Windows disk, it does, but stays on a blank screen with a flashing cursor and 
> no error no matter how long you wait, with two different XP disks, C on 
> startup, or any other way of telling it to boot from CD I know of. I called 
> Apple about this awhile ago, but they won't help me because the warranty I 
> had (all 6 months of it) when I got the thing used on Ebay was done for 
> anyways. There's no Apple store in my area. Is there any other way to force 
> windows xp down this thing since it's the laptop I have and the need is still 
> around for software that is Win only? I know it's definitely Intel, or it 
> says it is, never know with stuff you buy used, but it should be. Will I get 
> the multiple streams or whatever they call that where Jaws can mix with 
> whatever else I'm doing, running Parallels if I went that way? My dad 
> suggested that as he knew a guy for this company whose been using that for 
> awhile now. I don't know that they do much audio from the Windows side, but I 
> don't know how to take the HD out, stick it in a PC, and install Win XP on 
> the second partition that way to force it to do what Apple says is supported.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Cohn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: general Mac questions / Captchas
> 
> 
>> I don't have an answer for this, but I wonder...  VO-Shift-M on a
>> picture will bring up a contextual menu.  Could one put a send image
>> to Abby Reader as an acttion in there?
>> That would solve this problem.
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
 My next question is regarding using the Web. Captchas-need I say more? On
 the Windows side, one would remedy this problem by downloading and using
 Firefox with the Web Visum plug-in, which performed OCR on the captcha
 image
 and placed it on the clipboard for convenient pasting into the
 appropriate
 edit box. Also, if you didn't wish to use Firefox, there was usually an
 audio alternative. I am trying to create an iChat account on the Mac.
 Naturally, this requires the use of the AOL web site. Before I can
 proceed
 to create my account, the web site requires that a captcha be entered.
 Although they provide an audio alternative, Safari is completely unable
 to
 use it and the link (upon checking) is java scripted. I know that Firefox
 is
 not at all accessible on the Mac side (at least from the information I
 received on this list), so are there any alternatives for captchas? Also
 web-related, how do I go about obtaining Webkit-as some seem to think this
 a
 better web browsing solution in general? Your contributions, time, and
 patience are appreciated.
 Thanks:)
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RE: parallels 4

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I've finally got some better action from vm fusion.

 Major issues till turning off the mac short cut keys and making sure that
function keys were set to work as function keys.

Apart from those simple thigns,  it's just a lack of ram that seems to be
causing the problem.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: parallels 4


The main problem with Jaws on Parallels is that the Jaws video intercept 
interferes with the Parallels video driver. Interferes as in the Windows 
XP installation will crash before fully booting up. Just to be sure I 
pulled up a copy of a WindowsXP vm in Parallels 4 and let Jaws 10 
install the video intercept driver and after the reboot it just hangs. 
Choosing the "use last good restore point" (or whatever the text was) 
brought be back to where I was when I started. This was on Parallels 
4.0.3846.

CB

Simon Fogarty wrote:
>  Hi list,
>
>  Has anyone tried using parallels 4 with a windows xp or even windows 7
> installlation and jaws?
>
>  I know parallels 4 is pretty new, it just that is what is being used at
> work for a virtual machine and if I could use jaws with it I would save
> myself a lot of time.
>
> Cheers 
>
> simonf
>
>
> >
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Re: parallels 4

[Chris Blouch]

The main problem with Jaws on Parallels is that the Jaws video intercept 
interferes with the Parallels video driver. Interferes as in the Windows 
XP installation will crash before fully booting up. Just to be sure I 
pulled up a copy of a WindowsXP vm in Parallels 4 and let Jaws 10 
install the video intercept driver and after the reboot it just hangs. 
Choosing the "use last good restore point" (or whatever the text was) 
brought be back to where I was when I started. This was on Parallels 
4.0.3846.

CB

Simon Fogarty wrote:
>  Hi list,
>
>  Has anyone tried using parallels 4 with a windows xp or even windows 7
> installlation and jaws?
>
>  I know parallels 4 is pretty new, it just that is what is being used at
> work for a virtual machine and if I could use jaws with it I would save
> myself a lot of time.
>
> Cheers 
>
> simonf
>
>
> >
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