Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
Hi! I totally agree with you. Its strange that braille displays and embossers should be that expensive. /A > 26 apr. 2023 kl. 15:18 skrev lenron brown : > > braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and > was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can > close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have > issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes. > > On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only >> braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the >> placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I >> couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started >> to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use >> for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for >> writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that >> is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I >> purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. >> Best, >> Donna >> >>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: >>> >>> The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and >>> the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little >>> noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job >>> pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a >>> qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> >>> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM >>> To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" >>> Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover >>> >>> Hi, >>> My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. >>> Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille >>> display that plays nicely with voiceover? >>> Many thanks >>> Andrew >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/233652470.0.1682508747079%40localhost. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
Hello, If one is in the United States then there is also e-readers from National Library service which could act as a braille display with VoiceOver. One may have to get onto a waiting list for it. On 4/25/23, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote: > Hi, > > My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. > Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille > display that plays nicely with voiceover? > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. > -- Shai Wolman Wolman Assistive (619)894-6587 An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults! To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at wolmanassistive.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAL%2BOAfaRdW_zNJsaNNfQYwZ72WHORUK1XB3dR9q5TJNeg%3D4rXQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
Affordable is pretty variable, depending on your circumstances. I’m personally in love with my Orbit Reader 20+. I’ve been using it for about a year now, and it plays nicely with VoiceOver both on my phone and on my computer. It’s noisier than some displays, so keep that in mind if you’re planning to use it in a public setting or while recording. I believe it’s currently priced around $700. Shannon > On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:12 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. > Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille > display that plays nicely with voiceover? > > Many thanks > > Andrew > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/34646DDD-E341-4158-AD1E-B72437DD78E8%40gmail.com.
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
morning, I think that to categorize the Brailliant is a display that is issues I don't think is quite completely true. I'm using a brilliant PI 40 X right now. I think the real issue is knowing when you should connected up to a machine and when it is appropriate to leave it set up were Bluetooth only. Very situation specific. What do I mean by that if your just checking mail and if you're just working on a few things and you're in a location where you don't want that expensive cable that you just spent loads of money buying than Bluetooth is probably your best friend. If you are on the other hand needing to move documents to and from the unit, and you might seriously consider that you have the unit connected via a cable. Since transferring files between the units probably should not be done under Bluetooth. This is true whether you are using Bluetooth under Mac OS, or Bluetooth under Microsoft Windows. Here's hoping that this message finds you, and everyone on the list well. Here's also hoping that my thoughts got out properly I'm actually dictating this to the computer because of a additional disability and I'm using a virtual machine on a Mac but running in a virtual version of Microsoft Windows 11 be well everyone. On 23/04/26 15:30, Jessica Moss wrote: I would think if their primary market was school systems, that it would be absolutely necessary, since in a setting like that, it would be more prone to being dropped, and considering the fact that it costs a lot to manufacture them, dropping one is the last thing anyone would want to be doing. On Apr 26, 2023, at 9:37 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: When I travel with the Mantis, I just put it in the case with my Mac. Because it is so thin, it fits very nicely. But I do agree, a case would have been a good thing. Though I think APH was trying to keep the price down, and also that their primary market was school systems, so perhaps they thought it wouldn’t be necessary. Donna Donna On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:18 AM, lenron brown wrote: braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes. On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Andrew, One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. Best, Donna On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. - Original Message - From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover Hi, My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille display that plays nicely with voiceover? Many thanks Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
Not if they expect it to be sitting on a desk all the time. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:30 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > I would think if their primary market was school systems, that it would be > absolutely necessary, since in a setting like that, it would be more prone to > being dropped, and considering the fact that it costs a lot to manufacture > them, dropping one is the last thing anyone would want to be doing. > >> On Apr 26, 2023, at 9:37 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> When I travel with the Mantis, I just put it in the case with my Mac. >> Because it is so thin, it fits very nicely. But I do agree, a case would >> have been a good thing. Though I think APH was trying to keep the price >> down, and also that their primary market was school systems, so perhaps they >> thought it wouldn’t be necessary. >> Donna >> Donna >> >>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:18 AM, lenron brown wrote: >>> >>> braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and >>> was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can >>> close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have >>> issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes. >>> >>> On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: Andrew, One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. Best, Donna > On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: > > The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and > the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little > noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job > pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a > qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. > > - Original Message - > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > > Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM > To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" > Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover > > Hi, > My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. > Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille > display that plays nicely with voiceover? > Many thanks > Andrew > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
I would think if their primary market was school systems, that it would be absolutely necessary, since in a setting like that, it would be more prone to being dropped, and considering the fact that it costs a lot to manufacture them, dropping one is the last thing anyone would want to be doing. > On Apr 26, 2023, at 9:37 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > When I travel with the Mantis, I just put it in the case with my Mac. > Because it is so thin, it fits very nicely. But I do agree, a case would > have been a good thing. Though I think APH was trying to keep the price > down, and also that their primary market was school systems, so perhaps they > thought it wouldn’t be necessary. > Donna > Donna > >> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:18 AM, lenron brown wrote: >> >> braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and >> was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can >> close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have >> issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes. >> >> On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >>> Andrew, >>> >>> One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only >>> braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the >>> placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I >>> couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started >>> to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use >>> for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for >>> writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that >>> is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I >>> purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. - Original Message - From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover Hi, My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille display that plays nicely with voiceover? Many thanks Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/233652470.0.1682508747079%40localhost. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
When I travel with the Mantis, I just put it in the case with my Mac. Because it is so thin, it fits very nicely. But I do agree, a case would have been a good thing. Though I think APH was trying to keep the price down, and also that their primary market was school systems, so perhaps they thought it wouldn’t be necessary. Donna Donna > On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:18 AM, lenron brown wrote: > > braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and > was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can > close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have > issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes. > > On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only >> braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the >> placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I >> couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started >> to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use >> for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for >> writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that >> is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I >> purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. >> Best, >> Donna >> >>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: >>> >>> The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and >>> the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little >>> noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job >>> pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a >>> qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>> >>> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM >>> To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" >>> Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover >>> >>> Hi, >>> My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. >>> Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille >>> display that plays nicely with voiceover? >>> Many thanks >>> Andrew >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/233652470.0.1682508747079%40localhost. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
braille display prices still drive me nuts. Got the mantis here and was surprised the thing didn't come with the leather case you can close. The brailliant bi 40x is also pretty nice, but it seems to have issues with the bluetooth staying connected sometimes. On 4/26/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: > Andrew, > > One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only > braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the > placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I > couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started > to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use > for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for > writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that > is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I > purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. > Best, > Donna > >> On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: >> >> The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and >> the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little >> noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job >> pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a >> qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> >> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM >> To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" >> Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover >> >> Hi, >> My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. >> Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille >> display that plays nicely with voiceover? >> Many thanks >> Andrew >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/233652470.0.1682508747079%40localhost. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/527A5FA3-07B8-46E5-9D4D-0E8485BA4110%40me.com. > -- Lenron Brown Skype: ron.brown762 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.
Re: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
Andrew, One comment about the mantis. I bought one expecting it would be my only braille display, and ended up buying another one. I found that the placement of the thumb keys on the Mantis causes my hands to cramp. I couldn’t read on it for more than about five minutes before my hands started to hurt. So I bought a Brailliant. The Brailliant is now the display I use for reading, and the Mantis is what I use when I want a qwerty keyboard for writing. Both are good displays, but I would encourage you to find one that is comfortable for your hands, if you do much braille reading. When I purchased it, the Brailliant was $3,495. Best, Donna > On Apr 26, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Joe Hodge wrote: > > The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and > the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little noise > but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job pretty > well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a qwerty > keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. > > - Original Message - > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM > To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" > Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover > > Hi, > My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. > Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille > display that plays nicely with voiceover? > Many thanks > Andrew > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/233652470.0.1682508747079%40localhost. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/527A5FA3-07B8-46E5-9D4D-0E8485BA4110%40me.com.
RE: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover
The Orbit 20 or 40 are priced afordibley. I think the 20 is around 600 and the 40 is at 1600. I think there good displays. They do make a little noise but for where I use braille mainly at home the Orbit does the job pretty well. Aph has the Mantis which I use almost every day which is a qwerty keyboard 40 cell option but is 2895 dollars at this time. - Original Message - From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 02:13 AM To: "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" Subject: Affordable Braille display that works with voiceover Hi, My Brailliant bi 32 I bought second-hand years ago appears to have died. Would you mind giving me some recommendations on an affordable Braille display that plays nicely with voiceover? Many thanks Andrew -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/33504C33-DD70-421D-A835-76DC035A4909%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/233652470.0.1682508747079%40localhost.
