Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hmmm. I wish there were some way I could listen to your computer and hearing what's going on. If you have Skype, I could help you if you're comfortable adding me. My Skype username is bbstheblindrapper. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe I'm getting at the voices the wrong way. You said go through finder. The only way I could figure to do that was to open my macintosh hd volume on the desk top in finder, then drill down through system, library etc to find the voice folders. So maybe I'm missing a more direct path that will let me do as you suggest. Pressing command back space is what I tried, to no avail. Hoping somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
I am guessing. Regarding the Russian voice, this file needs to be saved in the voice over folder. First copy the file from Mountain Lion. It was like this with the Norwegian voice. Now i could not find it again. Maybe you need to type something in Terminal to get open some files. To get authorization to theese folders. I could find this command either. Out of luck today. Others on this list know this command or search for it in google. Take care 29. apr. 2014 kl. 08:11 skrev Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: Hmmm. I wish there were some way I could listen to your computer and hearing what's going on. If you have Skype, I could help you if you're comfortable adding me. My Skype username is bbstheblindrapper. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe I'm getting at the voices the wrong way. You said go through finder. The only way I could figure to do that was to open my macintosh hd volume on the desk top in finder, then drill down through system, library etc to find the voice folders. So maybe I'm missing a more direct path that will let me do as you suggest. Pressing command back space is what I tried, to no avail. Hoping somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Well, maybe I'm getting at the voices the wrong way. You said go through finder. The only way I could figure to do that was to open my macintosh hd volume on the desk top in finder, then drill down through system, library etc to find the voice folders. So maybe I'm missing a more direct path that will let me do as you suggest. Pressing command back space is what I tried, to no avail. Hoping somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hi Mary, If you are wanting different system voices, go to the system preferences and to dictation and speech. Choose the speech tab and choose custom voices. There you will see all of the voices grouped by language. You need to checkmark any voice that you want to download. Robert Carter On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe I'm getting at the voices the wrong way. You said go through finder. The only way I could figure to do that was to open my macintosh hd volume on the desk top in finder, then drill down through system, library etc to find the voice folders. So maybe I'm missing a more direct path that will let me do as you suggest. Pressing command back space is what I tried, to no avail. Hoping somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hi Robert, I have in fact successfully downloaded some of the new voices. But what I really want to do is get back some of the old voices, such as Samantha, Tom, and the Russian voice. And I have not been able to do that. Samantha and Tom are in the list. I had thought they weren't, but they are. I tried unchecking Samantha Tom and the Russian voice, then closing out preferences, and coming back in and checking them. But of course that didn't work. So then I have been trying to uninstall the old files, and I'm not having any luck. Hopefully, this can be resolved. I am not all that thrilled with these new voices. Of course I love Alex. But if these are in fact the expressive voices, I'm not sure what all the shouting is about. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:57 PM, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mary, If you are wanting different system voices, go to the system preferences and to dictation and speech. Choose the speech tab and choose custom voices. There you will see all of the voices grouped by language. You need to checkmark any voice that you want to download. Robert Carter On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe I'm getting at the voices the wrong way. You said go through finder. The only way I could figure to do that was to open my macintosh hd volume on the desk top in finder, then drill down through system, library etc to find the voice folders. So maybe I'm missing a more direct path that will let me do as you suggest. Pressing command back space is what I tried, to no avail. Hoping somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
What are these new voices? I have Samantha and them, but also have Alison, Ava, Susan, Oliver and Kate. Devin Prater Sent from my iPod 5. iMessage, facebook, and face-time: devinpra...@live.com email: d.pra...@me.com Google Talk/keychat: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Apr 28, 2014, at 15:37, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, I have in fact successfully downloaded some of the new voices. But what I really want to do is get back some of the old voices, such as Samantha, Tom, and the Russian voice. And I have not been able to do that. Samantha and Tom are in the list. I had thought they weren't, but they are. I tried unchecking Samantha Tom and the Russian voice, then closing out preferences, and coming back in and checking them. But of course that didn't work. So then I have been trying to uninstall the old files, and I'm not having any luck. Hopefully, this can be resolved. I am not all that thrilled with these new voices. Of course I love Alex. But if these are in fact the expressive voices, I'm not sure what all the shouting is about. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:57 PM, ROBERT CARTER nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mary, If you are wanting different system voices, go to the system preferences and to dictation and speech. Choose the speech tab and choose custom voices. There you will see all of the voices grouped by language. You need to checkmark any voice that you want to download. Robert Carter On Apr 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe I'm getting at the voices the wrong way. You said go through finder. The only way I could figure to do that was to open my macintosh hd volume on the desk top in finder, then drill down through system, library etc to find the voice folders. So maybe I'm missing a more direct path that will let me do as you suggest. Pressing command back space is what I tried, to no avail. Hoping somebody can tell me what I'm doing wrong. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hi Shawn, So you are saying that Samantha and, presumably also Tom, since he is part of vocalizer expressive, are still suppose to be available under Mavericks? That is very interesting. I wonder if there is a way to delete the old files and somehow reacquire them, although I didn't think I saw Samantha or Tom in the list of voices in the customize dialogue under text to speech in the system preferences. Will look again. I've heard a lot of good things about these expressive voices. Thus far, I have tried Allison and Susan, and I prefer Samantha on my i-devices and, of course, Alex. I also prefer the Russian voice on my iPad to the ones available on the Mac. But I don't think Apple is going to care much what I prefer. smile Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hi Mary. I'd suggest trying to re-download them but first go into the finder, then system, then library, then speech, then voices and delete the old voices you have from Nuance. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shawn, So you are saying that Samantha and, presumably also Tom, since he is part of vocalizer expressive, are still suppose to be available under Mavericks? That is very interesting. I wonder if there is a way to delete the old files and somehow reacquire them, although I didn't think I saw Samantha or Tom in the list of voices in the customize dialogue under text to speech in the system preferences. Will look again. I've heard a lot of good things about these expressive voices. Thus far, I have tried Allison and Susan, and I prefer Samantha on my i-devices and, of course, Alex. I also prefer the Russian voice on my iPad to the ones available on the Mac. But I don't think Apple is going to care much what I prefer. smile Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Thanks, Shawn. I don't know why, perhaps because voice over is on? But when I went into finder as you described, and down to the individual voice folders, the system isn't letting me delete. I get the ding when I try to do that. Even opening a folder and then a subfolder within that folder, e.g. Samantha, and trying to get rid of an individual file, gives me the ding. There must be some setting I have to change somewhere to enable deletions? Wasn't there some change in mountain lion or lion that restricted user access to some folders that had been accessible under earlier versions of osX? I am not one who feels particularly comfortable messing in the guts of the system. But deleting various voices that I'm not using or can't use seems harmless enough if I could just get it to work. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Strange. All I do is go to the voice I don't want and press command+backspace on them. I don't go into any folders, I just wait until I hear Voiceover say, for example, Samantha.speechvoice and delete it that way. I hope someone else can chime in here. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Apr 27, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Shawn. I don't know why, perhaps because voice over is on? But when I went into finder as you described, and down to the individual voice folders, the system isn't letting me delete. I get the ding when I try to do that. Even opening a folder and then a subfolder within that folder, e.g. Samantha, and trying to get rid of an individual file, gives me the ding. There must be some setting I have to change somewhere to enable deletions? Wasn't there some change in mountain lion or lion that restricted user access to some folders that had been accessible under earlier versions of osX? I am not one who feels particularly comfortable messing in the guts of the system. But deleting various voices that I'm not using or can't use seems harmless enough if I could just get it to work. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Those voices do not appear to be available for download. Maybe I have to reboot for stuff to fix itself. Did you actually have success downloading voices again? They seem to have disappeared from the list in the customize tab, but maybe a reboot will change that. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hello Mary, Some voices have indeed disappeared in Mavericks. The French voice Sébastien has gone and the new voice Aurélie has been added. I have no idea why this has been done. Cheers, Anne On 26 Apr 2014, at 18:51, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Those voices do not appear to be available for download. Maybe I have to reboot for stuff to fix itself. Did you actually have success downloading voices again? They seem to have disappeared from the list in the customize tab, but maybe a reboot will change that. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Well, thanks, Anne. At least it isn't me, and I'm not crazy. I was really surprised about Samantha, because she is the U.S. English voice for IOS still, and Milena is the Russian voice for IOS. Go figure. Honestly, my real hope, and I am not holding my breath for it, is that the Ivona tts will become available. Their Russian voice is wonderful! Best I've heard for a Russian voice that is available as a tts for screen readers. But it is only in Windows at this point. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Yes. Mavericks uses the new Vocalizer Expressive engine so the old voices that you're used to like Jill are no longer in the list. Jill is replaced by a girl called Ava. As for Samantha, don't know why she's not working for you. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Apr 26, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Those voices do not appear to be available for download. Maybe I have to reboot for stuff to fix itself. Did you actually have success downloading voices again? They seem to have disappeared from the list in the customize tab, but maybe a reboot will change that. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
voice changes after mavericks upgrade
Hi all, This machine had Mountain Lion, and I had installed some extra voices, Samantha, Tom and the Russian Milena, along with Jill, I think. Now, with Mavericks, although those 1st three I mentioned are listed as possible voices, they seem to have disappeared, and others are available. In the text to speech tab of the speech and dictation preference pane, once I downloaded the new voices, it looks like the ones like Milena for sure, and I think maybe Tom and Samantha, have disappeared now. But they still show up in my voice over listings. Does anybody know what's up with that? Can I get these voices back, and if not, how do I get them out of my voice over choices? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
