Re: [maemo-developers] End User Software Agreement

2006-04-20 Thread Luca Donaggio
2006/4/20, Jerry Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: While downloading the new bin image, I read the end user agreement forto this download.While IANAL, it seems that this agreement restricts the usage of theLGPL and GPL software, which is a violation of both licenses. Among other things:(End user agreement

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 4/20/06, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kalle Vahlman wrote: > >> The only "legal" difference of GPL and LGPL is > >> that GPL insures derived sources remain open. > > > > No. Sources will always remain open with LGPL too. It's the combining > > and linking with non-free (in fact, any)

[maemo-developers] some packages

2006-04-20 Thread Kasper Souren
After finding out how to make packages I created some more today, forGNU Screen, bzip2 and ar (for making packages on the N770 itself)Available here:    http://www.sia.huaral.org/download/Comments welcome... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-develo

[maemo-developers] Too busy -> abstraction layer and process

2006-04-20 Thread Risto Varanka
Carlos: >However, as Tommi pointed out, an equality important factor here is that >our product development processes and infrastructure are not yet fully >adapted to open platform development. Yes, I would assume it could take a decade or more to fully adapt. Especially as there aren't too many

Re: [maemo-developers] Bug with GtkCellRendererToggle?

2006-04-20 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 4/20/06, Jan Arne Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 22:00 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > On 4/19/06, Jan Arne Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Disable checkbox-mode: > > > > > > g_object_set(G_OBJECT(tree_view), "allow-checkbox-mode", FALSE,

RE: [maemo-developers] Jhbuild + Maemo

2006-04-20 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
Hi, > > > > I created a .modules file for jhbuild and got it working. > > > Here's some > > > > help on using it: > > > > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoWithJhbuild%7cBuilding > > > > > > > > This saves me a lot of time and fiddling when I need to > > > write a patch > > > > for the hildon lib

[maemo-developers] End User Software Agreement

2006-04-20 Thread Jerry Keith
While downloading the new bin image, I read the end user agreement for to this download. While IANAL, it seems that this agreement restricts the usage of the LGPL and GPL software, which is a violation of both licenses. Among other things: (End user agreement) "You may make one copy of the Softwa

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Simon Budig
Lorn Potter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Kalle Vahlman wrote: > >>The only "legal" difference of GPL and LGPL is > >>that GPL insures derived sources remain open. > > > >No. Sources will always remain open with LGPL too. It's the combining > >and linking with non-free (in fact, any) licensed work t

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Lorn Potter
Jussi Pakkanen wrote: --- Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Correction. Qtopia is dual licensed, commercial and GPL. GPL of course has no licensing cost. The only "legal" difference of GPL and LGPL is that GPL insures derived sources remain open. There is also the problem of free softw

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Lorn Potter
Kalle Vahlman wrote: The only "legal" difference of GPL and LGPL is that GPL insures derived sources remain open. No. Sources will always remain open with LGPL too. It's the combining and linking with non-free (in fact, any) licensed work that LGPL allows (and GPL doesn't). Which means source

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Lorn Potter
Kalle Vahlman wrote: On 4/20/06, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: [snip] Just using plain Qtopia wouldn't have been an option, just as using plain GTK+ without Hildon wasn't an option; we had to use a UI that looks somewhat like Nokia's earlier pr

Re: [maemo-developers] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread Santeri Lindgren
Sup, I just tried it, i have the newest OS and only x chat + x terminal installed. And i found that they have turned everything that logs anything off. There isn't any log files in /var/log/. So at least wtmp file growing has been handled. Cheers, Forge -- Siarhei Siamashka wrote: Disconn

Re: [maemo-developers] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread reggie
Early reports have found the following: 1. Opera Browser - can load large sites without using swap file workaround 2. PDF reader - faster in opening pdf files (e.g. 40 seconds to 3 seconds) 3. Sound prompt when inserting/removing into/from case - some have found this a bit annoying The discussio

Re: [maemo-developers] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread Detlef Schmicker
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Siarhei Siamashka did have cause to say: It is not a fix for: [Bug 329] WIFI connection drops intermittently In case anybody hoped so. Detlef Schmicker > Disconnect wrote: > > >Will changelogs be provided later? (Not to threadjack this into the other > >conversation, b

Re: [maemo-developers] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread Disconnect
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Siarhei Siamashka did have cause to say: > Disconnect wrote: > > >Will changelogs be provided later? (Not to threadjack this into the other > >conversation, but this is a great example of where nokia can better their > >interaction with the community in a fairly easy way. E

Re: [maemo-developers] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
Disconnect wrote: Will changelogs be provided later? (Not to threadjack this into the other conversation, but this is a great example of where nokia can better their interaction with the community in a fairly easy way. Even if some parts have to be left out or summarized as "Browser stability"

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Memory card corrupted or unformatted

2006-04-20 Thread Kasper Souren
Later I found the format thing in the File manager's menu. I didn't expect it to be there. I guess it'd be nice to also add it to the context menu of the memory card. Or simply ask the question "Do you want to format the memory card now?", after the first time the device finds out the card is "unfo

Re: [maemo-developers] Bug with GtkCellRendererToggle?

2006-04-20 Thread Jan Arne Petersen
Hi, On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 22:00 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 4/19/06, Jan Arne Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Disable checkbox-mode: > > > > g_object_set(G_OBJECT(tree_view), "allow-checkbox-mode", FALSE, NULL); > > No it doesn't help and I have an example code to demonstr

[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-users] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
It seems it is still a IT-2005 version.. while waiting for IT-2006 one ;-) Let's see what it gives... 2006/4/20, team maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Greetings! > > A new Nokia 770 software image -2005 Software Edition- is available from > http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770?f=Nokia_770_SE2005_

[maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-users] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread Disconnect
Will changelogs be provided later? (Not to threadjack this into the other conversation, but this is a great example of where nokia can better their interaction with the community in a fairly easy way. Even if some parts have to be left out or summarized as "Browser stability", most of the change

[maemo-developers] New Nokia 770 software image available

2006-04-20 Thread team maemo
Greetings! A new Nokia 770 software image -2005 Software Edition- is available from http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770?f=Nokia_770_SE2005_5_2006_13_7.bin The version is 5.2006.13-7. Changelogs are not available. Regards, maemo team ___ maemo-deve

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Jussi Pakkanen
--- Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correction. Qtopia is dual licensed, commercial and > GPL. GPL of course > has no licensing cost. The only "legal" difference > of GPL and LGPL is > that GPL insures derived sources remain open. There is also the problem of free software that is GPL

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And as i see right now, I am ready to take small baby steps [...] First baby-step for you, Devesh: use a real mail program and not one that corrupts your From: header... :-) (From what I have heard, these annoying [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Memory card corrupted or unformatted

2006-04-20 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 01:58, ext Kasper Souren wrote: > > The N770 keeps on complaining "Memory card corrupted or unformatted" and > > I can't find out how to format it on the Nokia. > > http://serendipity.ravenwolf.de/index.php?/archives/11-extrootfs_1.0_arm.deb.html > does the trick. Now it woul

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 4/20/06, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: > [snip] > > > Just using plain Qtopia wouldn't have been an option, just as using > > plain GTK+ without Hildon wasn't an option; we had to use a UI that > > looks somewhat like Nokia's earlier products,

Re: [maemo-developers] MaemoDict deb file

2006-04-20 Thread Pedro Ayala
Thanks Kasper!!This is a very usefull tool. I will send you my feedbackOn 4/19/06, Kasper Souren <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:I created a Debian package for MaemoDict. To use it you also need to put some dicts somewhere. You can install Debian's dict-* packages or manually put the .dict.dz and index

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On tor, 2006-04-20 at 18:05 +1000, ext Lorn Potter wrote: > Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: > [snip] > > > Just using plain Qtopia wouldn't have been an option, just as using > > plain GTK+ without Hildon wasn't an option; we had to use a UI that > > looks somewhat like Nokia's earlier pr

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Lorn Potter
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: [snip] Just using plain Qtopia wouldn't have been an option, just as using plain GTK+ without Hildon wasn't an option; we had to use a UI that looks somewhat like Nokia's earlier products, without forking too wildly. So the work effort would've been the

RE: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help?]

2006-04-20 Thread Devesh.Kothari
> > > Original Message > Subject: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:14:13 +0200 > From: ext Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org > > The Maemo community is alive, but not thriving as much as it > could. Thi

RE: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Devesh.Kothari
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ext > Shawn Gordon > Sent: 19 April, 2006 23:06 > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org > Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not > complaining > > > At 12:23 PM 4/19/2006, Philippe D

Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining

2006-04-20 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On ons, 2006-04-19 at 13:06 -0700, ext Shawn Gordon wrote: [snip] > faster because it is done, has been used, refined, debugged and > developed for for years, so other than device drivers in the kernel > it wouldn't have taken hardly any time at all to get it up and running. > > cheaper - I'm