Re: [maemo-developers] Re: 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?

2006-07-10 Thread Kalle Valo
"Andrew Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You have to create the adhoc network profile on the 770 first. At least, > that's been my experience. It doesn't appear to detect already-existing > networks through scanning but can join them if you create a correct profile. That sounds like a bug. I

[maemo-developers] USB Networking

2006-07-10 Thread Ian Malcom
Hello, The procedures at https://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToSetUpUsbNetworkingDebian assume that usbnet is part of the kernel. I have Debian 3.1 (sarge), which is a 2.4 kernel. As such, I don't believe usbnet is in there. Can anyone clarify? Thanks! Ian ___

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?

2006-07-10 Thread Andrew Barr
On Monday 10 July 2006 14:44, Thanos Panousis wrote: > Just a question regarding ad-hoc connections: > > Does the 770 support ad-hoc mode directly? Yes. Including link-local IPv4 addresses. > Or do you have to install the > iwtools and then enable adhoc mode from xterm? No. > I could see an

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Osvaldo Santana
Hi, On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [cut] There is also other feature/bug in those examples - they need to be killed with ctrl-c, they don't quit properly when closed via X button. Window is closed but application doesn't terminate in shell. Is this bug or some 'python cac

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?

2006-07-10 Thread Thanos Panousis
Just a question regarding ad-hoc connections:Does the 770 support ad-hoc mode directly? Or do you have to install the iwtools and then enable adhoc mode from xterm? I could see an adhoc network of mine with the 770, do I need to install wireless tools or was it something with my network... On 7/7/0

Re: [maemo-developers] programming questions

2006-07-10 Thread Miko Nieminen
On 10/07/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 17:07 +0300, ext Miko Nieminen wrote:> On 10/07/06, Dionisis Petromanolakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 1. how can i create and use threads? >> Currently pthread is supported, so you can use that. Please correct

[maemo-developers] Developing kiosk applications in Python (connectivity, buttons, backlight)

2006-07-10 Thread Erik Walthinsen
Coming up this week (starting tomorrow!) is a children's Music Camp at my church. For the last several years I've run a system consisting of a Rio Receiver and a pair of older ProGear tablets (Transmeta chips) that allow the director to start and stop the production's CD tracks at will, without m

[maemo-developers] Re: Python memory use (was: Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Ross Burton
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 16:38 +0300, Tommi Komulainen wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. memory consumption > > > 4. run-time speed? > > > > These are not an issue, really. Sin

Re: [maemo-developers] Error while dist-upgrading to Maemo 2.0 final

2006-07-10 Thread Adrian Neumaier
Luca Donaggio schrieb: > Thanks again Adrian, now everything is working perfectly! > Maybe Maemo packagers should consider doing an upgrade of the SDK? > > Luca Donaggio No problem. Beeing a Debian User (and running Unstable on my main computer at home) i encounter this stuff quite frequently *g*

Re: [maemo-developers] Error while dist-upgrading to Maemo 2.0 final

2006-07-10 Thread Luca Donaggio
2006/7/10, Adrian Neumaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Luca Donaggio schrieb:> 2006/7/10, Adrian Neumaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Luca Donaggio schrieb:>> > I got this error while doing apt-get dist-upgrade: >> >>> > Unpacking replacement sdk-default-theme-config ...>> > dpkg: error processing>> > /var/c

Re: [maemo-developers] programming questions

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 17:07 +0300, ext Miko Nieminen wrote: > On 10/07/06, Dionisis Petromanolakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. how can i create and use threads? > > Currently pthread is supported, so you can use that. Please correct me > if I'm wrong. Or GThreads if you're using glib.

Re: [maemo-developers] Error while dist-upgrading to Maemo 2.0 final

2006-07-10 Thread Adrian Neumaier
Luca Donaggio schrieb: > 2006/7/10, Adrian Neumaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Luca Donaggio schrieb: >> > I got this error while doing apt-get dist-upgrade: >> > >> > Unpacking replacement sdk-default-theme-config ... >> > dpkg: error processing >> > /var/cache/apt/archives/sdk-default-theme-confi

Re: Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Ruda Moura
Hello! On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 16:38 +0300, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. memory consumption > > > 4. run-time speed? > > > > These are not an issue,

Re: [maemo-developers] Building a binary package?

2006-07-10 Thread Miko Nieminen
On 08/07/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am new to the Nokia 770 development (as well as debian packages) and have recently finished setting up the development environment (Maemo 2.0). So far I have got everything up and running and I have been able to build a simple Hello W

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming wrote: > On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming wrote: >> Are you talking about something that happens for every class, or just >> during library initialization? Either way, I'd love to see the patch, if >> you have a URL. > > PyGTK used to force calls to gtk_$CLASS_type() even for

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:29 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for the horrible startup time even applications written in C start > > slowly but python is really much wo

Re: Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. memory consumption > > 4. run-time speed? > > These are not an issue, really. Since python does garbage collect, i

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Murray Cumming
> On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Are you talking about something that happens for every class, or just >> during library initialization? Either way, I'd love to see the patch, if >> you have a URL. > > PyGTK used to force calls to gtk_$CLASS_type() even for unused class, >

Re: [maemo-developers] programming questions

2006-07-10 Thread Miko Nieminen
On 10/07/06, Dionisis Petromanolakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi all,   i m new to maemo and i have two questions on programming,   1. how can i create and use threads? Currently pthread is supported, so you can use that. Please correct me if I'm wrong.  2. how can i use xml parser (xpat)

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But the 2 seconds for the second time is already better if you try > pygtk from CVS. > > Problem is: Glib/GObject is actually a dynamic type system. Every call > to GTK_IS_WIDGET() wil

Re: [maemo-developers] Error while dist-upgrading to Maemo 2.0 final

2006-07-10 Thread Luca Donaggio
2006/7/10, Adrian Neumaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Luca Donaggio schrieb:> I got this error while doing apt-get dist-upgrade:>> Unpacking replacement sdk-default-theme-config ...> dpkg: error processing> /var/cache/apt/archives/sdk-default-theme-config_2.0-3_all.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `

Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. memory consumption > > 4. run-time speed? > > These are not an issue, really. Since python does garbage collect, in > the long run it may show even more

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:29 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for the horrible startup time even applications written in C start > > slowly but python is really much worse. Yesterday I tried the runtime in > > 2.0 repository w

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Murray Cumming
> On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But the 2 seconds for the second time is already better if you try > pygtk from CVS. > > Problem is: Glib/GObject is actually a dynamic type system. Every call > to GTK_IS_WIDGET() will actually use the gtype system, that will call > gtk_$C

Re: [maemo-developers] Building a binary package?

2006-07-10 Thread Adrian Neumaier
Kuisma Salonen schrieb: > Now if you actually would make into your source package directory called > 'debian' and put there proper 'rules' file there (please correct me if i > am missing something (something that is NOT invoked by debian/rules)), > you should have working source package. However at

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tommi Komulainen wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they >> expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the >

Re: [maemo-developers] Error while dist-upgrading to Maemo 2.0 final

2006-07-10 Thread Adrian Neumaier
Luca Donaggio schrieb: > I got this error while doing apt-get dist-upgrade: > > Unpacking replacement sdk-default-theme-config ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/sdk-default-theme-config_2.0-3_all.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/share/backgrounds/default_bg.desktop'

Re: [maemo-developers] Building a binary package?

2006-07-10 Thread Kuisma Salonen
> I am new to the Nokia 770 development (as well as debian packages) and have > recently finished setting up the development environment (Maemo 2.0). So > far > I have got everything up and running and I have been able to build a simple > Hello World application from scratchbox. I ran it in the emu

[maemo-developers] Error while dist-upgrading to Maemo 2.0 final

2006-07-10 Thread Luca Donaggio
I got this error while doing apt-get dist-upgrade:Unpacking replacement sdk-default-theme-config ...dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sdk-default-theme-config_2.0-3_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/backgrounds/default_bg.desktop', which is also in package sdk-desktop

python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the showstopper so far... if it's the size, how many megabytes woul

[maemo-developers] programming questions

2006-07-10 Thread Dionisis Petromanolakis
hi all,   i m new to maemo and i have two questions on programming,   1. how can i create and use threads?   2. how can i use xml parser (xpat), is it installed somewhere or i have to download it? Is there an rdf/xml parser available in maemo?   Also i assoume that i can read/write from/to fi

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they > expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the > showstopper so far... if it's the size, how many megabytes would be > ok? Can't

[maemo-developers] Kiosk mode

2006-07-10 Thread Lars Bell
Hi, On desktops Opera has the option of operating in Kiosk mode. On the 770 it does not seem to have that option. Did I miss something? We really need to have a bunch of 770 in Kiosk mode running just the browser. If this is not an easy thing to do then we would be more than willing to pay so