Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Kalle Vahlman wrote: > 2007/4/19, Chris Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> looks like you ran strace with /usr/bin/run-standalone.sh >> /usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-application-launcher I >> couldn't get that to work . > > I ran it like this (from a ssh shell): > > strace

Re: getty over serial is running

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Kalle Vahlman wrote: >> Mystery solved. There is clear bug in the script. While the comment >> above dd >> talks about reading it writes to /dev/ttyS0 creating 1 byte regular >> file in /dev. >> >> #test if we can read ttyS0, we have serial console >> if dd of=/dev/ttyS0 co

Re: getty over serial is running

2007-04-18 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/4/19, František Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Mystery solved. There is clear bug in the script. While the comment above dd talks about reading it writes to /dev/ttyS0 creating 1 byte regular file in /dev. #test if we can read ttyS0, we have serial console if dd of=/dev/ttyS0 c

Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-18 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/4/19, Chris Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: looks like you ran strace with /usr/bin/run-standalone.sh /usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-application-launcher I couldn't get that to work . I ran it like this (from a ssh shell): strace /usr/bin/maemo-summoner /usr/bin/osso-applica

Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-18 Thread Chris Taylor
Kalle, I did an strace: # strace -f /usr/bin/osso-application-installer but I died at a completly different location: execve("/usr/bin/osso-application-installer", ["/usr/bin/osso-application-instal"...], [/* 54 vars */]) = 0 uname({sys="Linux", node="Nokia-N800-10", ...}) = 0 brk(0)

getty over serial is running

2007-04-18 Thread František Dufka
> I heard that with some of the newer versions > /etc/init.d/ttyusb0 could start getty and the script needs to be updated > for newer kernel. > Mystery solved. There is clear bug in the script. While the comment above dd talks about reading it writes to /dev/ttyS0 creating 1 byte regular file

N800 experimental host mode patches available

2007-04-18 Thread Tony Lindgren
Hi all, I've been meaning to do this for a while, but only now got into it after sorting out one more issue with the N800 USB DMA. I've posted some experimental N800 host mode patches to [1] for people to play with. Although the N800 is not built to support host or OTG mode and does not have a mi

Re: Intel's Internet Mobile Device

2007-04-18 Thread Neil Jerram
Carlos Guerreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is a positive development for Nokia and other companies > building or planning to build devices on GNOME software. > Intel's use of Hildon is welcome and seen as positive development. > There should be plenty of opportunity for collaboration. Th

RE: 3.2007.10-7 - Detailed change log?

2007-04-18 Thread quim.gil
>Did you (or anyone else) manage to make any progress on a >changelog for 3.2007.10-7? I have started the internal discussion with the aim of having a changelog linking to maemo's bugzilla being published together with the next IT OS release notes. And improve from that point in next releases.

Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-18 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/4/18, Chris Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, still no luck on getting application installer to run the window pops up and nothing is drawn to the screen anyone have any ideas? FWIW, I have this same problem, and the process seems to block somewhere using the apt-worker sockets:

Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-18 Thread Chris Taylor
Well, still no luck on getting application installer to run the window pops up and nothing is drawn to the screen anyone have any ideas? I may have to compile up a custom version of the application installer and see where it's crapping out as far as some programs not working whe

getty over serial is running

2007-04-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Frantisek Dufka wrote: Eero Tamminen wrote: Are you building your own kernel which is newer than the one coming with the latest release?I heard that with some of the newer versions /etc/init.d/ttyusb0 could start getty and the script needs to be updated for newer kernel. Well, I do have /

Re: Compiling latest kernel (from kernel.org) in n800

2007-04-18 Thread Leandro Melo de Sales
Daniel, still cannot compile linux-omap for n800_defconfig and kernel git. Can you please give me a point to solve this problem? Thank you, Leandro. 2007/4/17, Leandro Melo de Sales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: If I type make n770_defconfig I can compile the kernel, but if I type n800_defconfig I c

Re: Intel's Internet Mobile Device

2007-04-18 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
Hi, I just came across this news at Endgatget. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/109417695/ Here a technical the presentation: https://intel.wingateweb.com/published/UMGS003/UMGS003_100eng.pdf Looks interesting. Same approach than Nokia. They actually even plan to use Hildon.

Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)

2007-04-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 04:09:17PM +0100, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > It doesn't completely fix the problems though .. the other big problem is > still there, in that in X-terminal pressing the enter key brings up the > thumb keyboard and does not enter the data. One can achieve an Enter by > clic

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/4/18, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, ext Sean Luke wrote: > No, that's a *global* change, and a major, brickable, modification which > is not acceptable for me to make on a person's computer for them just to > use my application. I should be able to enable a *specific* window to >

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Eero Tamminen wrote: Are you building your own kernel which is newer than the one coming with the latest release?I heard that with some of the newer versions /etc/init.d/ttyusb0 could start getty and the script needs to be updated for newer kernel. Own kernel from bora 3.1 repository with

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Sean Luke wrote: >>> - set a specific dialog as closeable or minaturizable >> >> This might be something that you could control from Matchbox theme >> file, see its documentation at: >> http://matchbox-project.org/ >> >> Then you could create a theme that does that and install it. > > N

Re: [maemo-developers] How to extend Hildon Input Methods

2007-04-18 Thread Guard][an
Hello Mohammad, Since your reply to my questions, the wiki page http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_him_bora.html has not been updated :( More over, http://repository.maemo.org/stable/3.1/content_comparison.html indicates that packages libhildon-input-method-framework-header-sdk

Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > Hi, many thanks ... I can form that: > >>> If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run >>> the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just >>> add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file >>>

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Sean Luke
On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote: - set a specific dialog as closeable or minaturizable This might be something that you could control from Matchbox theme file, see its documentation at: http://matchbox-project.org/ Then you could create a theme that does that and install i

RE: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)

2007-04-18 Thread Mike Cowlishaw
Hi, many thanks ... I can form that: > > If you want to disable pressure information usage, you need to run > > the device X server with XInput protocol/extension disabled. Just > > add "-extension XInputExtension" to the /etc/init.d/x-server file > > X server options and reboot the dev

Re: Cross compiling under debian

2007-04-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 09:43:32 +0200, ext Sebastian Mancke wrote: > So, at the moment I cross compile from my x86 debian, which seems to > work fine except of the following problems with the debian packaging: > > 1. dh_strip -a (from x86) does not know, how to handle the arm binaries. > (I ha

Re: Sponsoring Maemo packages into Debian

2007-04-18 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
ext Guillem Jover wrote: Hi, Hi Guillem, Now that the maemo-gtk and hildon situation is in a way better shape (thanks to the great efforts of the desktop team, which have reduced the gtk delta between maemo and upstream), I'd like to offer package sponsoring for the core of the libraries (f

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Sean Luke wrote: [...] Thanks for the information! It's better that some developer more familiar with Gtk answers these, I'm not completely sure on all of this (I've done very little with Gtk). >>> But to get back on track: this is essentially orthogonal to the issue of >>> giving deve

Re: Boot bora as root

2007-04-18 Thread Zoran Kolic
> That was my assumption also. I changed the occurances of use/users > (one occurance of systemui/users) to root/root in the init scripts > so I changed out all the references to /home/user to /home/root and > made a symlink from /home/root to point to /root I then copied > over (without overw

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Sean Luke
On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Sean Luke wrote: What I gather here is that GTK widgets can't specify maximum size and, They can. They can? All I see is set_size_request(), which sets minimum sizes. How do you set the maximum size? (still no "preferred" size

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Another thing is getty running on /dev/ttyS0, I think I removed it from > inittab and it appeared again. R&D mode is disabled. Does this cause > higher power consumption or is harmless? Are you building your own kernel which is newer than the one coming with the l

Re: Kernel compilation (Bora 3.1)

2007-04-18 Thread Mika Luostarinen
Good catch. Thanks. This will be fixed. -M On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:25 PM, ext Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Hi, The guide is incorrect. It is necessary to setup the debian devkit, which is not specified in the instructions given by the guide. When it is created the MaemoKernel target the guide

RE: python sound

2007-04-18 Thread luciano.wolf
Hi Matthew, You have to use pygstreamer in order to play sounds using python for maemo. Regards, Luciano -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of ext Matthew R. Gattis Sent: Tue 4/17/2007 10:45 AM To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: python sound Has anyone gotten so

Re: wtmp

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Kemal Hadimli wrote: >> On 4/18/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Sorry, it is in /var/log >>> That I have, but it's only 6kB after several days of device being >>> on/online. >> >> mine was 62-megs (of course what i did immediately is ln -sf /dev/null

Re: Trying to retrieve battery info on N800

2007-04-18 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2007-04-18 at 13:06 +0200, ext Laurent GUERBY wrote: > There seem to be a DBUS request/reply used by > the battery applet to request current level, see here: > > http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-March/009300.html > > Plus messages sent when the level changes. > > However

Re: wtmp

2007-04-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Kemal Hadimli wrote: On 4/18/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, it is in /var/log That I have, but it's only 6kB after several days of device being on/online. mine was 62-megs (of course what i did immediately is ln -sf /dev/null /var/log/wtmp) (latest firmware) OK, so I

Re: Trying to retrieve battery info on N800

2007-04-18 Thread Laurent GUERBY
There seem to be a DBUS request/reply used by the battery applet to request current level, see here: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-March/009300.html Plus messages sent when the level changes. However my question: "I couldn't find documentation on the maemo site for these bme/

Trying to retrieve battery info on N800

2007-04-18 Thread ext-chaitanya.chaitanya
Hi, I've been trying to find a way to retrieve battery information for a N800. I am not able to isolate the function call used in getting this information. I tried listening to D-BUS messages, but this only works when the user manually launches the battery applet (on the top status bar). I am n

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/4/18, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: >>> Also there are other issues with the firmware. It looks like >>> /var/run/wtmp growing problem is back (was in some n770 firmware but was >>> solved if I remember correctly). > > Sorry, it is in /var/log That I hav

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Murray Cumming wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 12:20 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > [snip] > >> You're asking for an option to set that dialog should be resizable >> and movable? (that's different from what you asked earlier) >> >> Btw. If you want to know more about the standard for applicat

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Kemal Hadimli
On 4/18/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, it is in /var/log That I have, but it's only 6kB after several days of device being on/online. mine was 62-megs (of course what i did immediately is ln -sf /dev/null /var/log/wtmp) (latest firmware) -- Kemal ___

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 12:20 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: [snip] > You're asking for an option to set that dialog should be resizable > and movable? (that's different from what you asked earlier) > > Btw. If you want to know more about the standard for application > and window manager communication

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: >>> Also there are other issues with the firmware. It looks like >>> /var/run/wtmp growing problem is back (was in some n770 firmware but was >>> solved if I remember correctly). > > Sorry, it is in /var/log That I have, but it's only 6kB after several days of devi

Re: No more 770 bug activity?

2007-04-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:18:16PM -0700, ext Ian wrote: > If the vehicle gets bogged down anywhere or can't find its way, please Nokia > send all returned > 770's to Brazil. We [1] will use them. > > I have added a section: > Implement a Coherent Recycling Strategy for all Nokia Maemo Devices.

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Eero Tamminen wrote: Also there are other issues with the firmware. It looks like /var/run/wtmp growing problem is back (was in some n770 firmware but was solved if I remember correctly). Sorry, it is in /var/log ___ maemo-developers mailing list maem

Re: wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: >> It was a (new) bug noticed too little time before the latest release >> so there was not enough time to find the root cause & fix & re-build >> everything needed. The effect is a couple of secs lost at bootup and >> a couple of MB of RAM lost after device is up (

Re: gtk-server quick test

2007-04-18 Thread pancake
Yey! I was thinking on this port few time ago. I find it very useful, so it can be used together with menush: http://news.nopcode.org/menush.tar.gz menush is a bunch of shellscripts and a minimal terminal handler for creating menu entries and program launchers from command line for the n770/n8

wtmp, getty over serial running, Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Eero Tamminen wrote: It was a (new) bug noticed too little time before the latest release so there was not enough time to find the root cause & fix & re-build everything needed. The effect is a couple of secs lost at bootup and a couple of MB of RAM lost after device is up (compared to system t

Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Sean Luke wrote: >> The problem is not widgets telling what is their maximum size >> (doesn't fit to available space) or minimum size (doesn't show enough >> useful information to the user), but somehow things deciding >> what is the the optimum size for them. Programmer just hard-coding

Re: N800 switches on by itself while recharging

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, (I cross-posted this to devel as this is interesting also to them. When replying, you could remove e.g. "users" list as I don't think this applies that much to normal users anymore.) ext Laurent GUERBY wrote: >> You can enable them for all applications by creating a "core-dumps" >> directory

Re: n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > I tried prelink on latest N800 firmware and it looks like most libraries > (gtk,dbus,SDL,..) are not compiled with -fPIC. I see "Cannot prelink > against non-PIC shared library" error message for most libraries. > > Is this a bug or is there a reason? In previous

Re: disabling pressure information (for x11vnc)

2007-04-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mike Cowlishaw wrote: > Hi, I am going to have to try this before the weekend -- x11vnc seems to be > the only game in town for a demo of N800 apps to an audience using a > projector. I'm happy for this to be a one-off 'turn off pressure > information' as I never use that feature anyway (

n800 - most libraries compiled witout -fPIC, intentional?

2007-04-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Hello, I tried prelink on latest N800 firmware and it looks like most libraries (gtk,dbus,SDL,..) are not compiled with -fPIC. I see "Cannot prelink against non-PIC shared library" error message for most libraries. Is this a bug or is there a reason? In previous version it was just libSDL, n

Cross compiling under debian

2007-04-18 Thread Sebastian Mancke
Hi, compiling my packages with Java-JNI-code (e.g. classpath) for maemo does not work out of the box, because scratchbox does not have all the required build tools (javac, javah, jar). My long-term goal would be to use openembedded, but this will need much work, I think. So, at the moment I cross

RE: No more 770 bug activity?

2007-04-18 Thread quim.gil
>Quim: >Maybe you could put on the roadmap an item to better define >the relationship and goals for at least the Maemo platform, >but preferrably a general goal for the IT200X as well. No need to put this in the roadmap since it is our current ToDo. I'm willing to complete this task by June 1st.

Re: Howto revert a gtk_widget_tap_and_hold_setup

2007-04-18 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
Kalle Vahlman wrote: > 2007/4/17, Sergio Villar Senin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi, >> >> is there any way to revert a gtk_widget_tap_and_hold_setup? I mean I >> have a widget that shows a popup as response to a tap and hold event. I >> want to change the contents of that popup menu in execution time