maemo.org maintenance break today (2007-05-04)

2007-05-03 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, We are in the final phase of the website migration. It means we will switch over from the old maemo.org server to the shiny, new Midgard powered site today. This switch will affect all maemo.org services: bugzilla, mailing lists, wiki, planet, lxr, viewcvs... We try to keep the services

Re: N800 & Video playback

2007-05-03 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Thursday 03 May 2007 08:48, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > The only thing which is unclear here is that Hailstorm does not need to > downscale video in this situation. The bug can be reproduced with 512x288 > video which just needs upscaling to 800x450. Also even standard > Nokia_N800.avi video with

Re: Research on Maemo

2007-05-03 Thread Ramon Navarro Bosch
Thanks for the information, I'm in touch with him and I knew about his disertion publication. He focused on release plan on projects, an is a erally interesting reading. What I'm writing is a survey about research on free software. Ramon En/na [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrit: >> Hi Ramon, >> >> you m

RE: Research on Maemo

2007-05-03 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
> Hi Ramon, > > you might want to contact Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > from Cambridge. He > is an active Debian developer and is writting his PhD thesis > on a similar > topic (though he probably did not look at maemo). > > Indeed. Martin has completed his thesis already. It is av

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Carl Worth
On Thu, 3 May 2007 18:08:36 +0100, "Matthew Allum" wrote: > On 5/3/07, Carl Worth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But isn't this exactly one of the features provided by the new RandR > > 1.2 stuff? > > Can it - any more details ? Would seem a really nice fit if so. Here's a link to the latest prot

Re: Osso-help in python app?

2007-05-03 Thread Lauro
On 5/3/07, Daniel Martín Yerga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Already I take advantage of the email to ask to the pymaemo people, when you have thought to publish the first version of python-conic? I see enough movement in the SVN these days. In this moment is it stable? Thanks for your work. Dani

Osso-help in python app?

2007-05-03 Thread Daniel Martín Yerga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. There exists some possibility of running osso-help from a python app? Might it be done by means of dbus-send...? I have looked a bit the osso-help code, but my small knowledges of C did not allow me to obtain anything clear. I might do a help

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 5/3/07, Carl Worth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 3 May 2007 15:12:43 +0100, "Matthew Allum" wrote: >You are essentially changing the server viewport area here > *not* the display size. But isn't this exactly one of the features provided by the new RandR 1.2 stuff? Can

Re: format string vuln in the wifi "applet"

2007-05-03 Thread Volker Braun
For the record, ESSIDs are not strings! For example, \0\0 is a valid (2- byte) ESSID. On a slightly related note, can anyone point me in the right direction for the implementation of the EAP-TTLS MSchap authentification? I was thinking about extending that to WEP+EAP TTLS PAP (university wireles

Re: Research on Maemo

2007-05-03 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Ramon, you might want to contact Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from Cambridge. He is an active Debian developer and is writting his PhD thesis on a similar topic (though he probably did not look at maemo). Regards, Rainer Am Donnerstag, 3. Mai 2007 20:00 schrieb Ramon Navarro Bosch:

Problem installing bash / OS2007

2007-05-03 Thread Frank Schreiber
Hello, i tried to install the bash on my N800/OS 2007 version 3.2007.10-7. Using the Program Manager causes a conflict - so i tried it using apt-get. But apt tries to remove dpkg and busybox! Does someone has an explanation for this behaviour? In principle i want to install the SDK, but the inst

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Carl Worth
On Thu, 3 May 2007 15:12:43 +0100, "Matthew Allum" wrote: >You are essentially changing the server viewport area here > *not* the display size. But isn't this exactly one of the features provided by the new RandR 1.2 stuff? -Carl pgpGTUcbNAuU5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 5/3/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Note, this was just one potential problem - and with any problem > theres going to be somekind of workaround. Its just special casing > everything to 'subvert' randr is going to need alot and therefor I > dont see what you gain from usi

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Matthew Allum wrote: >> For system dialogs (which take focus) coming on top of the fullscreen >> application, the screen size was supposed to be switched back to normal >> by the WM before it allows it on screen. If the dialog contents are >> rendered before the dialog is shown, this coul

Research on Maemo

2007-05-03 Thread Ramon Navarro Bosch
Hi everybody, I'm writing a survey about the state of the art on free software related research. It's part of my PhD and I'm interested on involve Maemo on it.I would like to know if there is any research ( published articles on conferences and publications ) that talk about : * Maemo architectur

Re: Deleting alarms

2007-05-03 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:50:37PM +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > No, alarms keep working even when you quit your application. Except when they don't: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1112 Marius Gedminas -- ... there is always a well-known solution to every human problem -- neat, pla

Re: Localhost unavailable when wi-fi offline or not connected

2007-05-03 Thread Patrik Flykt
Hi, On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 07:10 -0500, ext David Hagood wrote: > Outbound packet detected with interface down This has one additional problem: The packets sent to the dummy interface will vanish and not be re-routed to the new interface once it's up. If the packets were meant for DNS, t

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 5/3/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, ext Matthew Allum wrote: >> > I really think using xrandr for this wont buy you much though (in fact >> > you'll probably loose) as you really only want the single topped app >> > to notice the display has shrunk not everything server

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Matthew Allum wrote: >> > I really think using xrandr for this wont buy you much though (in fact >> > you'll probably loose) as you really only want the single topped app >> > to notice the display has shrunk not everything server wide (as randr >> > is intended). >> >> That should be a pr

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 02:28:04AM -0700, ext Arnim Sauerbier wrote: > --- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't see the conflict between working on new Xomap versions and > > improving the N800. > > There is none, but look again at the title of this thread. :) Pretty sure the hac

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote: >> Same problem as using framebuffer directly. How user switches >> to another application? How to invoke power menu properly etc. > > What problem with using framebuffer directly? Everything should be > fine, you can get notifications from xserver when your wi

Re: Deleting alarms

2007-05-03 Thread David Weinehall
On tor, 2007-05-03 at 11:12 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote: > If I understand the alarm API > http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_alarm_interface_bora.html > properly, it can be used to specify a D-Bus method to be called at > regular intervals. I guess the application/service will be

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Daniel Stone
(I have all your other mails queued up to read again and reply to, but I'd like to reply to this one as quickly as possible.) On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:39:11PM +0300, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > On 5/3/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Same problem as using framebuffer directly.

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On 5/3/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] Same problem as using framebuffer directly. How user switches to another application? How to invoke power menu properly etc. What problem with using framebuffer directly? Everything should be fine, you can get notifications from xse

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Markku Vire wrote: If we need one fullscreen app, why not to launch a new X-session that uses this lower, pixel-doubled resolution and then run our SDL game there? Other applications would not recognize anything. Same problem as using framebuffer directly. How user s

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Arnim Sauerbier
--- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume your 'xrandr' screenshot is taken on the desktop? > RandR doesn't imply a specific scaling algorithm. Yes. I mistakenly assumed that xrandr would imply a point-scaler algorithm. > I don't see the conflict between working on new Xomap version

Re: Toolchain upgrade? (Was: Instructions cache flush on ARM)

2007-05-03 Thread Riku Voipio
Siarhei Siamashka wrote: Hm. The toolchain might not be built with -pg support. As to using gprof, that produces fairly unreliable results. I'd recommend building Oprofile kernel and latest oprofile user-space tools. Maybe Oprofile is good, but gprof is better than nothing and does not r

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 5/3/07, Markku Vire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If we need one fullscreen app, why not to launch a new X-session that uses this lower, pixel-doubled resolution and then run our SDL game there? Other applications would not recognize anything. If the games need everything an xserver prov

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi; On 5/3/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess that means SDL cant run on a raw framebuffer. It can. The problem is that it's not the only process running. Think what would / should happen if user presses power menu while game has switched to another VT... It would switc

Deleting alarms

2007-05-03 Thread Murray Cumming
If I understand the alarm API http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_alarm_interface_bora.html properly, it can be used to specify a D-Bus method to be called at regular intervals. I guess the application/service will be started if necessary. But how can I remove an existing alarm (to rep

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Markku Vire wrote: > ...clip... >>> I really think using xrandr for this wont buy you much though (in fact >>> you'll probably loose) as you really only want the single topped app >>> to notice the display has shrunk not everything server wide (as randr >>> is intended). >> >> >> That shou

Re: Toolchain upgrade? (Was: Instructions cache flush on ARM)

2007-05-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > Did you also read Intel docs? Unaligned access has some restrictions > on x86 as well. Do you have an example of some practical case where > hardware unaligned support from ARM11 would work worse than on x86? No. Would be nice if somebody would test it. > The

Re: Xsp pixel-doubling solutions for Nokia 770?

2007-05-03 Thread Markku Vire
Hi, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Matthew Allum wrote: ...clip... I really think using xrandr for this wont buy you much though (in fact you'll probably loose) as you really only want the single topped app to notice the display has shrunk not everything server wide (as randr is intended).

Re: Toolchain upgrade? (Was: Instructions cache flush on ARM)

2007-05-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Siarhei Siamashka wrote: I'm not going to statically link with glibc, but only with libstdc++ (standard c++ library). There are a few known tricks to make gcc link with libstdc++ statically, but dynamically with all the rest of libraries. One of them is creating a symlink to libstdc++.a in some

Re: N800 & Video playback

2007-05-03 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Siarhei Siamashka wrote: If decoding time for each frame will never exceed 28-29ms (which is a tough limitation, cpu usage is not uniform), video playback without dropping any frames will be possible even with tearsync enabled. Would a double or multiple buffering help with this? Does mplay