Re: oprofile for n810

2008-04-01 Thread Eero Tamminen
ext Tuomas Kulve wrote: Please, keep the list as CC. So, your kernel does have the oprofile support but you are lacking the user space tools for it. I think you need to add this to your sources.list: deb http://repository.maemo.org/ chinook free non-free Be careful to install only

Re: Maemo UI Development for N800/N810

2008-03-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext kumar lomash wrote: I have been developing GUI using GTK +2.0 and now I am facing some performance issues. Let me first describe The implementation: - The UI consists of layouts (GtkContainers) which have event box and image widgets. At any given time only one of the four layouts

Re: Is there any way to build Maemo applications which can

2008-02-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Huang Gao wrote: Yes, I also found that it is difficult to extract compiler tool chain from sctratch box since the referenced libraries of glibc are all in an absolute path. There should be no need to extract toolchain from Scratchbox. The toolchains come in separate packages and

Re: Using the scrollbar on the N810

2008-02-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2008/2/19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip observations that the web widget is catching mouse events outside the thumb but inside the scrollbar] Unfortunately, this isn't really how things work. Either a widget asks to capture input, in which case it

Re: Using the scrollbar on the N810

2008-02-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
in the final OS2008 release (50-2). - Eero Anyway it seems you guys at Nokia are aware of it, if you can improve the scrolling for a future OS release that would be great. I've added my bit to bug 2961. Cheers Richard On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:54:52 +0200 Eero Tamminen [EMAIL

Re: Using the scrollbar on the N810

2008-02-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Richard Booth wrote: Is there a hidden setting somewhere to improve the scrollbar sensitivity in the web browser on the N810? I find it tricky to use the web browser in full screen mode. If I try to grab the bar with the stylus and scroll down I can end up leaving the scroll bar

Re: SDL, tearing, X overhead and direct framebuffer gfx

2008-02-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, I'll comment things others haven't yet commented on. ext Tobias Oberstein wrote: Q: btw - how can I shutdown Maemo Launcher/Hildon/Matchbox/Xomap? Whenever I do one of /etc/init.d/maemo-launcher stop /etc/init.d/x-server stop the device will automatically reboot. Yes, the SW

Re: Segmentation fault in callback functions - maemo 4.0

2008-02-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jakov wrote: I have a simple app with socket communication. In Maemo 3.x it worked well. But the problem comes when I use Maemo 4.0 This line is ok when initializing: gtk_label_set_text (GTK_LABEL(communication_tab-label_connect), Connect); The label has text Connect; When

Re: Kiosk Mode Intranet Web Client

2008-02-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext F. Warnecke wrote: I'm new to this list and couldn't find this topic in the archive. We have Nokia 770s in use as web-clients for an intranet application. The tablets are mount stationary on the users desks and connected to power permanently. Their only job is to connect to a

Re: Howto build perl-modules in scratchbox?

2008-02-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Cord Beermann wrote: Maybe i'm blind, but i can't find a way to build Module-Packages in scratchbox. The problem is that scratchbox has an own perl of version 5.8.4, while the maemo-sdk has perl version 5.8.3. when i try to build packages the build-process takes the scratchbox-perl

Re: Segmentation fault in callback functions - maemo 4.0

2008-02-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
with Qemu? Does it output any Glib asserts to syslog (on device) or to console (on x86 Sbox)? If you Valgrind it on x86 sbox, does it output any errors from your application? - Eero On 2/18/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ext Jakov wrote: I have a simple app

Re: C - Hildon - Memory usage

2008-02-12 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Markku Vire wrote: HildonFileChooser can temporarily allocate large amounts of memory. This goes away after all references to the chooser are removed. However, the heap can shrink only when the topmost allocation is free'd. This means that XXX.Y the last

Re: Out Of Memory handling in Maemo

2008-02-12 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Karthik Murugesan wrote: Hello all, I am trying to understand Out of Memory Handling in Maemo for my thesis. As per the my understanding (based on the documentation and browsing through libosso code). some module raises the Dbus signals com.nokia.ke_recv.lowmem_on/lowmem_off

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Ross Burton wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:57 +0100, Frédéric Charrier wrote: what do you mean by normal window ? a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL ? Yes, a popup window is only for special rare uses, like tooltips. if I use a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL it appears maximized, and I can't move it

Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frédéric Charrier wrote: Only dialogs without a parent are made system modal by the window manager as otherwise user could lose them (as dialogs are not listed in the task navigator, there's no way to return system dialog once an application would be topped above one). This

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:02:10PM +0200, (int) Eero Tamminen wrote: I do agree with you with respect to sources, however as for different architectures, the situation is a bit different: one architecture could be better supported than the other, so... I think

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:07AM -0500, Levi Bard wrote: Comments: * Is it necessary to separate each package into source/armel/i386/etc? Why not just display the package name (e.g. xmaeme), perhaps with a link to click to view the contained files, and/or an

Re: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Andrew Gatt wrote: TestGtkEmbed is probably linked against libgtkmozembed.so, a symlink from libgtkembedmoz.so to libgtkmozembed.so would probably make things happy. ./run-mozilla.sh `which ldd` ./TestGtkEmbed OK so now i'm feeling quite stupid, i ran the command you give

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Graham Cobb wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 13:24:32 Eero Tamminen wrote: If some specific package has issues on x86 due to its development happening on ARM only, I don't see that as a problem except in a sense that its developers not caring that much about quality in general

Re: custom dialog

2008-02-06 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Michele Tameni wrote: Ho, i'm approcing the development on my new cool nokia device, but i can't find info on how to make a very simple thing. I've a treeview and i need to edit the entry in one row. i don't want to open another window only for some info to edit or enter, so i'm

Re: If I buy a N800 but not N810

2008-01-23 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Tuomas Kulve wrote: Bin Chen wrote: The N800 is much cheaper than N810, I don't have much money to buy N810, so I wander if I buy a N800, can I run most features of maemo? In the other words, can N800 be same as N810 on maemo platform? Which is the difference besides the speed?

Re: hildon im to X key proxy

2008-01-22 Thread Eero Tamminen
. not to be managed by the window manager? (they you need to manage both its position and stacking yourself) Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You could use something like matchbox-nest: http://packages.debian.org/etch/matchbox-keyboard Thanks for the link. That does do almost exactly what I want

Re: autoreconf 2.59?

2008-01-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext dmenns1 wrote: OK, as a followup to my problem with the default version of 'automake' being too old for some stuff I want to do, it looks like I might also have a problem with 'autoreconf' being too old: gphoto2/Makefile.am:12: `doc_DATA' is used but `docdir' is undefined ...

Re: hildon im to X key proxy

2008-01-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Austin Che wrote: I've been trying to get something like the following to work: - I want to be able to press power, menu or something like that to bring up the on-screen keyboard - Then any keys I press should be sent as normal X key events (i.e. same as if

Re: Compiling new kernel for N810

2008-01-17 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hautbois wrote: I've compiled a new kernel for the N810. But now, the internal memory does not appear ! So I've some questions : The kernel-source-rx-34-2.6.21.0 package Is it the N810 kernel source ? The name contains rx34, and the firmware name of the N810 contains

Re: RFC: Proposal to solve multiple repository, poor QA situation

2008-01-16 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Graham Cobb wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2008 10:00:10 Eero Tamminen wrote: There should be a draft of this, hopefully within few weeks. Most likely it will miss many of the things people would like to be there and has many open issues/TODOs, but at least it's a starting point

Re: RFC: Proposal to solve multiple repository, poor QA situation

2008-01-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Graham Cobb wrote: One key to getting this successfully off the ground is that I think the focus should be on helping people do whatever is needed to release their package -- after all, we want to get away from multiple repositories for released software, not put roadblocks in

Re: [Fwd: [Bug 2772] Metalayer Crawler adds all oggs from Map application (with large CPU and memory usage)]

2008-01-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Larry Battraw wrote: I would suggest a file at the root of each filesystem (call it either .noindex or noindex.txt). Formatting is just a list of directories within the filesystem using relative addressing with simple globbing allowed like so: dev/* sys/* proc/*

Re: RFC: Proposal to solve multiple repository, poor QA situation

2008-01-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hagood wrote: May I suggest that the uploads consist of source, not pre-built binary .deb's? This helps in several ways: 1) it helps reduce (but not eliminate) the risk of trojans. 2) It helps when a newer version of the system comes out, as the source is guaranteed to be

Re: Can GTK+ make use of XSHM extension from MIT

2008-01-11 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Bin Chen wrote: ext Bin Chen wrote: I am not doing very detailed profiling against this, but by comparing the frame rate in my player against using pure framebuffer implementation. The performance difference is large. If not using shared memory to transfer the decoded image data,

Re: Can GTK+ make use of XSHM extension from MIT

2008-01-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Bin Chen wrote: I am not doing very detailed profiling against this, but by comparing the frame rate in my player against using pure framebuffer implementation. The performance difference is large. If not using shared memory to transfer the decoded image data, obviously the

Re: ncurses-base for OS 2008 (n800)

2008-01-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jaeyeon Jung wrote: Awesome! Thank you very much Andrew. Simple two steps fixed the problem. 1. uninstall nano that I had on my n800 2. add the Chinook repository and apt-get install nano On Jan 4, 2008 3:31 PM, Andrew Godwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ncurses-base itself is in the

Re: python2.5 - unnecessary multiple processes forked

2008-01-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
, it worked very fast. So it's not the multiple threads that hildon or GTK fork, that cause performance issues. You could also try disabling Flash from the Browser to see whether it helps. - Eero Thanks, Jayesh On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ext Jayesh

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Clarence Risher wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 7:04 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to bloatedness, there's an apt-hook installed on the device that removes the extra docs when a package is installed (at least man info pages). Developer could also run something like Debian's

Re: Dbus call to launch Image-Viewer?

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 04:52:14PM +0200, Tuomas Kulve wrote: Is there a Dbus call to launch the Image-Viewer app with a parameter image file? Not sure about dbus call, but check hildon_mime_open_file() in /usr/include/hildon-mime.h. At least it's trivial to

Re: python2.5 - unnecessary multiple processes forked

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jayesh Salvi wrote: I'm not sure but think it is because of gnome-vfs. Don't know proper terminology but maybe each vfs 'provider' in the dialog (like mmc, phone etc.) starts new process or something like that. That sounds correct. I experimented with other dialogs that do no involve

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, I think it's good you raised this issue as it needs some discussion. Busybox is a base part of maemo, but we don't yet list it as an official SDK API although most packages need/use it when they are installed. ext Damien Moore wrote: I'd like to bring up the busybox applet selection issue

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Damien Moore wrote: On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The maintenance wouldn't be a problem. Then those packages can come directly from Debian. Also, then trying to install a properly working replacement for a buggy/incomplete Busybox functionality doesn't mean

Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-27 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, Some personal opinions... ext mitcheloc wrote: 4. The D-Pad was moved to the keyboard... this is bad for using the device while closed. But allows making the device smaller. For some people that's more important. 5. As far as I can tell Skype doesn't actually do video calling on this

Re: Creating a simple installer

2007-12-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Stepanov wrote: Thanks for your suggestion, Rafael. I already created the package and specified there all dependencies. But the problem is that Application Manager cannot install dependencies automatically. It just displays exception.

Re: ca-certificates

2007-12-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Dongi wrote: The other day I've ported and tried to use esniper (v2-17) on my Nokia tablet. This is an eBay auction tool and uses CURL and SSL for the https dialogue. # ldd ./esniper libcurl.so.3 = /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 (0x) libssl.so.0.9.7 =

Re: Tips to optimize SDL aplication

2007-12-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Tapani Pälli wrote: ext Michael Stepanov wrote: I ported existing SDL application to maemo platform. It works fine on N800 but on Nokia770 ii crashes very often. And I suppose it happens because the application takes a lot of recourses - memory or CPU. Can somebody give me a right

Re: Having problems getting build enviroment set up (Chinook)

2007-12-17 Thread Eero Tamminen
earlier on the list), so it helps if they can find the answer with Google. :-) Thank you very much! Bill On Dec 14, 2007 6:25 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ext William Hope wrote: I'm having a problem getting the build tools properly configured. I've read various

Re: N810 Resets

2007-12-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Alex Iliadis wrote: Hi Eero, On Thursday 13 December 2007 10:16:09 am you wrote: ext Alex Iliadis wrote: On Thursday 13 December 2007 02:25:58 am you wrote: ext Alex Iliadis wrote: I scrolled a bit further down though and I noticed the following: Dec 13 09:36:20 Nokia-N810-42-18

Re: Having problems getting build enviroment set up (Chinook)

2007-12-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext William Hope wrote: I'm having a problem getting the build tools properly configured. I've read various online articles/books/docs and I have a start. The problem is that it doesn't compile anything. Below is output directory structure. I can't really concentrate on developing until

Re: N810 Resets

2007-12-13 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Alex Iliadis wrote: On Thursday 13 December 2007 02:25:58 am you wrote: ext Alex Iliadis wrote: I scrolled a bit further down though and I noticed the following: Dec 13 09:36:20 Nokia-N810-42-18 kernel: [ 18.531250] mmcblk0: rw=0, want=4013848, limit=3932160 Dec 13 09:36:20

Re: N810 Resets

2007-12-12 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Alex Iliadis wrote: I suspected it was the watchdog which was doing software resets. Here is the output of the results: /proc/bootreason 32wd_to 32wd_to: 5 ... After that I decided to disable the lifeguard resets in the device by using the flasher tool: flasher

Re: N810 Resets

2007-12-12 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Alex Iliadis wrote: Yeah, it's running as root, but it's a python script. After running top to monitor it's memory usage it was ranging from 35-55MB. How much memory it was using just before the device booted? (By consuming all memory root process can make the device so slow that HW

Re: How to add ogg to the supported codecs/containers list?

2007-12-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Tuomas Kulve wrote: Tuomas Kulve wrote: Felipe Contreras wrote: Indeed, the MP checks for mime-types with audio/* or video/* otherwise it won't play. Hmm.. That's a bit inconvenient as the mime type for *.ogg is application/ogg. The subclass is e.g. audio/x-vorbis+ogg but it seems

Re: hardware key access using Phyton

2007-12-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Martin Grimme wrote: The hardware keys simply map to standard keys on a PC keyboard. Do something like this: def on_key(src, ev): keyval = ev.keyval key = gtk.gdk.keyval_name(keyval) if (key == Escape): do_ something() elif (key == F6): #

Re: Is it possible to make a well-behaved pyGame app with maemo-python ?

2007-11-30 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Fred Pacquier wrote: Thomas D. Waelti wrote : However, I have been unable to adapt the mClock example for the service file successfully. As soon as I reference the X-Osso- Service value in the desktop file, I get a lengthy Loading... banner and nothing else, even though I call

Re: Static and dynamic linkage

2007-11-28 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a standard way to ask for a specific library to be linked in statically and the rest to be dynamic? Just specify the static library you want to link with: gcc -o test -lsomedynamiclib my-static-libs/foobar.a Specifically, I want to

Re: Is it possible to make a well-behaved pyGame app with maemo-python ?

2007-11-27 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Fred Pacquier wrote: By well-behaved I mean an app which appears as an icon in the taskbar like a proper Hildon app. I have copied and modified .desktop and .service files of such apps made with PyGTK, but pyGame seems different. If the .desktop doesn't reference an osso

Re: debugging spontaneous reboot issues with N800/N810

2007-11-26 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: Thanks Kalle Eero for the enlightening comments info, much appreciated. Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Kalle Valo wrote: 3) Asterisk marks the application that caused the last wd timeout operation? (so in this case, the spontaneous reboot was caused by dsp_dld

Re: N810 availability?

2007-11-26 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Brian Waite wrote: On Monday 26 November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything you can do a little less silently? Such as comment (or even *hint*) as to what the delay *is*? Now we can comment that there is an OS2008 beta for the N800 targetting basically you, the

Re: Check if application is run

2007-11-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
for them using D-BUS though). - Eero On 11/15/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: I think in your case it would be sufficient to do something like this: while true; do ./run-your

Re: Check if application is run

2007-11-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: I think in your case it would be sufficient to do something like this: while true; do ./run-your-application params sleep 2 done Or in C: while(1) { system(./run-your-application params

Re: Check if application is run

2007-11-15 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Michael Stepanov wrote: On 11/15/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Michael Stepanov wrote: Thanks for your suggestions. IMHO the most appropriate way (but probably not easiest) is to use DBUS functionality as Mika Yrjölä described. What do you think? It depends from

Re: SDL App runs for some seconds and then dies

2007-11-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Daniel Monteiro wrote: Hello folks, I have the following issue compiling my game for Maemo 2.2 (I know, its old stuff): After installing my game (http://angstron.garage.maemo.org) from the .deb, and tapping the game icon on the menu, my game runs...and then dies after some (~ 10)

Re: Android Vs. Maemo

2007-11-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Kate Alhola wrote: 1) No X That's no problem. Also Clutter run in maemo even it used OpenGl-ES directly. It can run in window or in fullscreen. It needs to integrate to X *somehow*. Otherwise you miss connectivity dialogs, battery notifications, power menu etc - Eero

Re: Help getting round compiler a error (compiling CLN)

2007-11-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Simon Pickering wrote: I thought that the use of the inline keyword for a function should completely remove any mention of such a function from the relocation table? No, you need to use static keyword for that. Can anyone think why such a function would end up in the relocation

Re: Check if application is run

2007-11-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Aleksandr Koltsoff wrote: Michael Stepanov wrote: when the SDL program crashed by some reason to run it again. What is the most efficient way to periodically check something in the Maemo SDK? If you exec it directly, just use wait/waitpid(). No need for polling. I think in your

Re: Any problem with chinhook beta repo?

2007-11-14 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Luca Donaggio wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 4:04 PM, Gabriel Schulhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 15:14 +0100, ext Luca Donaggio wrote: It seems that my sbox target is somewhat misconfigured: it should look in binary-armel subdir on repository.maemo.org, not binary-arm, but

Re: Maemo security longterm roadmap?

2007-11-13 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mike Lococo wrote: I was maybe not so clear in my last message; What I mean is: We can trust software that come from trusted source and that is 'signed'. But other software, that the end user still want to install can't be trusted. Actually bitfrost is aimed at an entirely

Re: Details on SVG support status on N810 browser ?

2007-11-06 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Marco Solari wrote: reading specs for N810 I see SVG support. Can anyone point me to a N810 SVG support status page, with some more details ? Thanks in advance, everybody. We've had SVG loader since N770 I think. Just do dpkg -s gdk-osso-svg-loader on the device. I think the loader

Re: GTK+/X based system on 64MB flash and ram size budget?

2007-10-31 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Trilok Soni wrote: We need to select an open-source GUI library for system where it will have 64MB of total flash and same RAM size running on the embedded processor like OMAP/DaVinci with around 300MHz. The number of GUI applications running will be only one main control application

Re: Getting a core dump from QEMU

2007-10-30 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Juha Kallioinen wrote: ext Ludovic Courtès wrote: Juha Kallioinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the maemo SDK, Qemu is only supposed to be used to *build* the ARMEL .deb packages which are then runnable/installable on the device. The confusing thing is that many programs do work

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-30 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Steve Greenland wrote: According to Tim Teulings [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The first one - the one that I think you mean (and that I think is important and must be agreed on to initiate the process) - is the guide that defines the process. Of course an important part of the process is

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-26 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: Which still doesn't help. Currently if the string is not translated then we mark it in the PO files so we and the developers can tell that it's not yet translated In case a developer is using an incorrect logical ID or a logical it not in the specs, we can

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-26 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, Mohammed Hassan wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 17:11 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: Which still doesn't help. Currently if the string is not translated then we mark it in the PO files so we and the developers can tell that it's not yet translated In case

Re: gdb does not display source code

2007-10-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Sachin Kundu wrote: While trying to debug on n800 using gdb, I am not able to see source code when the breakpoint is hit. Does it show the line number and function arguments? If not, it's not finding the debug symbols (and you need debug symbols for everything listed in your

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Riku Voipio wrote: Mohammed Hassan wrote: It would be interesting to take our current translations and mine them for the logical ids that map to the same Engineering English, but at the same time have different translations in some language. These are the cases where we would need

Re: Themes for MAEMO platform

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext madhuri wrote: I am new to MAEMO platform. I have installed Mamemo3.x successfully able to see hildon desktop. Now my aim is to view the themes for SDK_X86 target. While doing google search I found that themes are available only for ARM target. Are you talking about the 3rd party

Re: dealing with non-GTK windows

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Tapani Pälli wrote: ext Austin Che wrote: Tapani Pälli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Is it possible to force such a window into fullscreen? I don't care if it needs to be done manually. For example, is it possible to have a program that takes whatever window is

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Weinehall wrote: On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: The problem is the logical IDs are needed to maintain the smooth process. It's not easy to simply drop them. I did not say it's impossible. I

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, Mohammed Hassan wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:15 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: And if you want to check the translation for common errors, something like this can be used: https://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gramps/branches/gramps22/po/check_po (which of course doesn't work

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Neil Jerram wrote: Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is an invitation to resume all previous discussions about the repository mess and come up with conclusions and actions. Please read this through and have a say, specially if you are maintaining a repository with maemo

Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Klaus Rotter wrote: Rafael Proença schrieb: Is this a bug or a new feature? Neither. This is called API break, as you can see here: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/api_changes_between_maemo_3_2_and_maemo_4_0.html and some recents clues here:

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

2007-10-24 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, Marius Vollmer wrote: Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and complicated translations. The classical example might: Searched in %d files and %d directories. You will never be able to translate this nicely for all

Re: Developing for all IT platforms

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Neil Jerram wrote: Something that's been bugging for a while, and will become more important now that N810 is here... Is there a recommended procedure for setting up Scratchbox so that one can easily compile an application and build its package for all of the IT platforms (i.e.

Re: Debugging the browser

2007-10-04 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Akos Putz wrote: On 10/3/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't really bothered installing something else, because I'm interested mainly in debugging my own code, which has debugging infos anyway. What else do you suggest? Debug symbols for anything through which your

Re: Debugging the browser

2007-10-04 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Akos Putz wrote: Can you reproduce the same problem with the Mozilla based browser? No, it starts up and initializes the plugins just fine. It has other problems with its NPAPI implementation, NPP_SetWindow() will be called repeatedly with two different window dimensions, which

Re: Debugging the browser

2007-10-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Akos Putz wrote: I'm currently experimenting with npapi-compatible browser plugin programming on the N800. My problem is, that debugging the browser triggers some interesting gdb error message, see below: ~ $ gdb maemo-summoner GNU gdb 6.4 Copyright 2005 Free Software Foundation,

Re: Debugging the browser

2007-10-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Akos Putz wrote: Sorry, forwarding to the list also. On 10/3/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (no debugging symbols found) You need debug symbols for everything, otherwise Gdb shows wrong function names (without information about static functions, it shows name

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-10-01 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Thomas Waelti wrote: Thank you very much for your valuable feedback! You need to provide D-BUS service only if: - You handle D-BUS messages in general (e.g. because you don't want the caller of your application to care about whether your program is already running or not) - You

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: Hi there hackers! While I'm debugging my application using gdb, I noticed that in both Scratchbox for intel, Scratchbox for ARM and on the device certain things in the Maemo platform decide that the application is hibernating, or ... something. It seems to

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hazel wrote: write a new application to maemo 3.x instructions. Also, I'm unsure whether I'm supposed to set up a Makefile.am script to ensure that something gets done with the .desktop and .service files. Do these get automatically recognised and dealt with, or do I have to

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: As debugging info I usually get something like this: ... hildon-desktop[25510]: GLIB DEBUG default - computing hibernation key hildon-desktop[25510]: GLIB DEBUG default - hibernation key: appname ... hildon-desktop[25510]: GLIB DEBUG

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: Desktop kills only applications that have announced themselves to be killable. Application should do that only when they've saved state, are in the background (i.e. not interacting with the user) and able to restore the state when restarted. I.e. it would be

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hazel wrote: Hi Eero, Thanks for that suggestion. I'll give it a try and see what it tells me. What to do with the .desktop file seems to be mentioned here: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/creating_a_debian_package.html But I think the howto here (which

Re: how to tell if files have changed?

2007-09-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: Does maemo have anything like FAM or Gamin that tells us if watched files or dirs have changed? I'm trying to improve Kagu's media scanning capabilities and it seems that the best thing to do would be to get a notification of some sort when a new file arrives,

Re: DSME code?

2007-09-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Daniel Stone wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:19:15PM -0400, ext Dave Neuer wrote: It's possible that people who aren't happy, but aren't getting paid to work on the IT OS for 770 are worried that they will start, run into obstacles and a lack of information and have wasted their

Re: Porting fltk-app

2007-09-18 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jørn Christensen wrote: You have to copy .desktop file to /usr/share/applications/hildon directory. What version(s) of Maemo are you using? There used to be some issues with .desktop files not having _exactly_ correct syntax .. Well, I toyed a bit around with it and found out that

Re: Porting fltk-app

2007-09-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Tapani Pälli wrote: I am trying to port an FLTK (www.fltk.org) application to N770/N800. I got FLTK compiled and the application as well, but when I run the application, it is not managed by Matchbox. That is, the program is not shown in the taskbar and the keyboard will not pop up.

Re: Possible libosso bug?

2007-09-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hazel wrote: I encountered the following unexpected behaviour while testing my application, and I wanted to run it past the people on this list to see if this is a known feature. My application opens the browser as part of its normal operation. On application exit, the

Re: Trapping application crashes?

2007-09-05 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jayesh Salvi wrote: If you can modify application's code (at least the main() entry point) you can register signal handlers for SIGSEGV, SIGABRT (most common causes of program crashes) etc. Do man signal for more info. If the program is in other languages then there should be

Re: Finding the mmc cards

2007-08-29 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, Please file a documentation bug into Maemo Bugzilla. We need this documented. Handling of removable medias, especially with file systems as easily corrupted as FAT, needs special care from applications (stop using files when pre-unmount message is delivered on them so that unmounts succeed,

Re: Raemo on-device testing tool first public release

2007-08-28 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jami Pekkanen wrote: I'm pleased to announce that Raemo 0.80 Beta is now released. Raemo (Remote Application Execution for Maemo Os) is a tool that eases on-device testing. Here's some of the release's features: * Persistent remote sessions, so for example working directory is

Re: Compiling GNU Utilities on Scratchbox

2007-08-20 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: You may also try compiling with thumb intruction set. This is how most stuff in firmware is compiled. Try export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=thumb before building the deb or use compiler options directly (-mthumb -mthumb-interwork) And also -Os instead of -O2.

Re: Do you ltrace work well?

2007-08-17 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext ?? wrote: I download ltrace source code from http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo/ossw/source/l/ltrace/ and build it. but it can' t work . Nokia-N800-12:~# ./ltrace -p 889 breakpointed at 0xb9a4 (?) __libc_start_main(69245, 1, 0xbecea6f4, 70500, 70596 unfinished ...

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