On 2/16/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No objections. Let's consider this as an agreement.
Ferenc, can you remove the flags? I will update the descriptions in
test.maemo.org.
done
-ferenc
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Sounds like a reasonable set of conclusions to me and gets my vote.
The replyto discussion has been going for the best part of a year so it would
be good to put a stake through that one's heart,
Andy
On Wednesday, February 07, 2007, at 07:01AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.
Seconded.
Further, do you want a single reasonable reason to reduce (at least) this
string from msg titles ? Try reading you gmail from your n800/n770 !
On 2/6/07, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as removing the tag from the subject in favor
Yay for Mutt and single-keystroke reply-to-list!
I agree,
change default reply-to to the list address.
I think I could deal with both, but if the mailing list software mangles
the reply-to header, sooner or later I *will* post a personal message to
the list by accident.
You are right, I
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:59 -0600, Levi Bard wrote:
[snip]
most webmail clients (gmail at least) don't
allow you to filter on these headers
[snip]
In gmail, you can filter on the recipients using the labels feature.
It's not perfect but it mostly works.
--
Murray Cumming
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
most webmail clients (gmail at least) don't
allow you to filter on these headers
[snip]
In gmail, you can filter on the recipients using the labels feature.
It's not perfect but it mostly works.
I agree - that's my first method, and the subject line filtering
catches anything that
Thanks for the feedback. Still not 100 responses ;) but definitely we
have a wider opinion now.
New iteration:
- No new list created.
- Current lists are not renamed.
- Flags in the subject are wiped out.
- Reply-To is kept as it is.
- maemo-developers is for... developers hacking either
New iteration:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Renamed maemo-developers@maemo.org, no change in subscribers.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New list, interested people need to join.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Renamed maemo-users@maemo.org, no change in subscribers.
About the flags, if someone wants to come up with a schort
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: aren't there ways to filter appropriately the emails
without relying on the flags?
Yes. The emails have an X-list field in the header. That's why
Evolution, for instance, can filter by mailing list.
It doesn't help you
On Mon Feb 5 10:00:38 2007, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:46 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: aren't there ways to filter appropriately the emails
without relying on the flags?
Yes. The emails have an X-list field in the header. That's why
Evolution, for instance,
On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New iteration:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Renamed maemo-developers@maemo.org, no change in subscribers.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New list, interested people need to join.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Renamed maemo-users@maemo.org, no change in subscribers.
I don't
Hi,
would it be possible to have the list address as default reply-to
address? i kept replying to the poster eventhough i only want to post
to list :)
yes, now i learn to use reply to all... if i remember :)
regards,
wahlau
On 05/02/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/5/07,
On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not against any good changes, on the contrary... But in
this case I would like to hear to hear 100s of opinions! Come
on, we have ~1000 people on this list!
I'm ok with the current setup. Maybe just change the default reply-to
or i'll
I'm ok with the current setup. Maybe just change the default reply-to
or i'll always have to use reply-to-all..
Search the lists for reply-to, many people are vehemently against this
change. It's not currently on the table for this discussion and if
reply-to mangling is to be considered, it
On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New iteration:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Renamed maemo-developers@maemo.org, no change in subscribers.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New list, interested people need to join.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Renamed maemo-users@maemo.org, no change in subscribers.
I
On 2/5/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not against any good changes, on the contrary... But in this case
I would like to hear to hear 100s of opinions! Come on, we have ~1000
people on this list!
I'm a subscriber and I'm all for it.
Dave
I am not against any good changes, on the contrary... But in this case
I would like to hear to hear 100s of opinions! Come on, we have ~1000
people on this list!
I don't particularly mind the list structure the way it is.
As far as removing the tag from the subject in favor of a
List-something
Hi,
would it be possible to have the list address as default reply-to
address? i kept replying to the poster eventhough i only want to post
to list :)
yes, now i learn to use reply to all... if i remember :)
And reply to all causes the original poster to get two copies of the mail,
one of
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:55:12AM -0600, Ed Okerson wrote:
And reply to all causes the original poster to get two copies of the mail,
one of which is not handled by list filters because it did not go through
the list. It is a royal pain to reply to all and cut and past the list
address from
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:55:12AM -0600, Ed Okerson wrote:
And reply to all causes the original poster to get two copies of the
mail,
one of which is not handled by list filters because it did not go
through
the list. It is a royal pain to reply to all and cut and past the list
address
ok. my preferences:
lists: keep them as they are.
reply-to: mangle them
tags: don't care if you mangle the reply-to headers. keep them if not.
best regards,
kemal
On 2/5/07, Ed Okerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:55:12AM -0600, Ed Okerson wrote:
And reply to all
List descriptions need to be made clear on Maemo.org and in list management
tools (users is for app-developers is more clear than users is for
users, etc) End-user type questions should be directed to ITT forums. I
could support a new list for end/power users if it proves necessary.
Keep headers
Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as removing the tag from the subject in favor of a
List-something header: most webmail clients (gmail at least) don't
allow you to filter on these headers. Is there any way the
[maemo-developers] can be put onto the *end* of the subject? That
way,
Jac Kersing wrote:
[Flags in the email subject]
And I depend on them to quickly find messages the SPAM filter
accidently tagged as spam (false positives). So please keep them as
they are...
Maybe shorten? [maemo-dev] [maemo-app] [maemo-usr] ?
Hopefully there is no confusion with [maemo-app],
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 07:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you like the this idea, then?
- platform (current maemo-developers)
- applications (new list)
- power users (current maemo-users)
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those developer list
names, they will be bothered
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those
developer list names, they will be bothered with user
questions, and those users will then be dissatisfied with
being sent away. Descriptions aren't enough.
I was waiting some kind of concept approval before going into wording.
Let's see if
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 12:53 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those
developer list names, they will be bothered with user
questions, and those users will then be dissatisfied with
being sent away. Descriptions aren't enough.
I was waiting
Dave Cridland wrote:
On Fri Feb 2 10:56:24 2007, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 12:53 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (renamed maemo-developers@maemo.org, no
change
in subscribers)
There's no dev, devel or development in the name. It will be
bothered by
Am Freitag, den 02.02.2007, 12:53 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
About the flags in the email subject, is this a problem? I can live
with/without them, no strong opinion here.
Yes, please get rid of it.
--Daniel
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Quim,
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those
developer list names, they will be bothered with user
questions, and those users will then be dissatisfied with
being sent away. Descriptions aren't enough.
I was waiting some kind of
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Murray Cumming wrote:
About the flags in the email subject, is this a problem? I can live
with/without them, no strong opinion here.
It's annoying to me.
And I depend on them to quickly find messages the SPAM filter accidently
tagged as spam (false positives). So please
On Wed Jan 31 21:04:27 2007, Dave Neuer wrote:
On 1/31/07, Mike Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mainly, I think people need to be meaner on maemo-developers
about
pushing non-development discussion over to the users list.
Tommi explained that maemo-users was for application developers
Hi,
The ruleset might be, then:
- If what you're trying to do involves the platform, it's
maemo-developers@
- If what you're trying to do involves scratchbox, it's maemo-appdev@
- If what you're trying to do involves hacks on the device (such as
using xterm), it's maemo-users@
-
Do you like the this idea, then?
- platform (current maemo-developers)
- applications (new list)
- power users (current maemo-users)
Pure end users are currently out of our scope, although we wouldn't stop
them in the power users list if they find it and are brave to ask.
Otherwise there is
This list is growing and sometimes (like this month) is difficult to
follow.
What about finding a specific development area that could be discussed
in a separate list, leveraging the weight of this one? Contributors
interested in that area could collaborate better. A list specialized in
a
Hi Quim,
We can move Python-specific discussions to the pymaemo mailing list at:
https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/pymaemo-developers
Thanks,
Osvaldo
On 1/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This list is growing and sometimes (like this month) is difficult to
follow.
Perhaps separate the 800 and 770 into separate lists as obviously a
lot of post are specific to one or the other?
At 12:05 31/01/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Maybe having development and external contribution lists could help
keeping whish-lists and brainstorming apart from real development,
considerably reducing the nois for developers. IMHO
A maemo-mantainers could also help.
Bye
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This list is growing and sometimes (like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please have your say.
Well, there are more frequent lists than this one - linux-kernel is one
extreme example :-)
I think more lists produce more confusion than single one. In fact I'd
vote for joining maemo-users and developers as there is no really
significant
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 15:22 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think more lists produce more confusion than single one. In fact I'd
vote for joining maemo-users and developers as there is no really
significant difference in topics posted to them. Developer questions
I'd wait and see, things may settle down a bit. But frankly, I don't
really care. If lists get splitted I will subscribe to all of them (a
bit of additional work) and use threaded mail client to solve the
traffic problem like I do now.
This is my opinion as well.
--
Just stop and take your
On 1/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This list is growing and sometimes (like this month) is difficult to follow.
What about finding a specific development area that could be discussed in a
separate list, leveraging the weight of this one? Contributors interested in
that area
On 1/31/07, Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd wait and see, things may settle down a bit. But frankly, I don't
really care. If lists get splitted I will subscribe to all of them (a
bit of additional work) and use threaded mail client to solve the
traffic problem like I do now.
This is
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:05 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This list is growing and sometimes (like this month) is difficult to
follow.
What about finding a specific development area that could be discussed
in a separate list
[snip]
There's no obvious way to split it at the moment.
I think more lists produce more confusion than single one. In fact I'd
vote for joining maemo-users and developers as there is no really
significant difference in topics posted to them. Developer questions get
posted to maemo-users and vice versa and sometimes topics are duplicated
since
On 1/31/07, Mike Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mainly, I think people need to be meaner on maemo-developers about
pushing non-development discussion over to the users list.
Tommi explained that maemo-users was for application developers (which
makes sense to me, very analogous to the way
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Dave Neuer wrote:
On 1/31/07, Mike Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mainly, I think people need to be meaner on maemo-developers about
pushing non-development discussion over to the users list.
Tommi explained that maemo-users was for application developers (which
makes
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On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 15:22 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think more lists produce more
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