ext Kees Jongenburger wrote:
The community itself is not organized in what can we do to achieve xyz.
they and I expect zyx to be maemo.org. They might even think : if
maemo.org behaves like xyz
THEY would be doing the right thing. it is not exactly easy to
currently do anything for
://groups.google.com/group/globalalliance4u?hl=en
--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Quim Gil lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
From: Quim Gil lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Re: Hello Maemo - CFSONID 2008
To: ext Kees Jongenburger lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Cc: ext Robert Schuster lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, maemo
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 11:44 +, ext Darius Jack wrote:
Nokia's corporate business is not exactly the business of developers
working for free
to let Nokia make business and generate profit.
You have been adviced some time ago to check what's the reality around
you.
Looks like you didn't
Hey guys,
Just wanted to let you know I have a list of points I'd like to
address with the look feel, and interface dynamics coming on the
way. I'll be travelling tomorrow and have a lot of work to finish
before then so it may be a few days. But just wanted to let you know,
and it's a good
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not really. What I personally miss is a specific plan by the community
to achieve that. Is that plan the Mamona project lead by INdT
developers? Is it opening or finding open alternatives to some of the
closed components in the
Hi,
ext Paul Bloch wrote:
One thing that comes to mind in terms of augmenting Maemo and making
it a more robust system is whether it's possible to consolidate
efforts being made by other groups such as the Ubuntu mobile project
(I can't recall the name of this effort), and perhaps the efforts
Hi.
Marius Gedminas schrieb:
If you attended the first talk I was the guy asking to raise your hand
if you want to see the Nokia IT devices being freed of all proprietary
software in one way (install a different OS) or another (make IT OS 100%
free itself).
I was one of those who raised
Hi.
Quim Gil schrieb:
The campaign proposal is interesting. I wonder if Nokia is the main
target, though. Sure, Nokia is one of the targets but perhaps it's the
own community of developers who could make a change. Or did the Linux
open source communities wait for IBM, Intel, HP and so on to
ext Robert Schuster wrote:
If I'm not confused about the terms, Maemo already consists of only the
open-source parts. The software that comes on a Nokia IT is called the
Internet Tablet Operating System, and it is based on Maemo with a lot
of non-free parts added at various levels of the
ext Robert Schuster wrote:
Now the funny thing: Recently people found out that building something
on top of what GNU provides can make up a successful business. But
instead of following the idea that brought GNU into existance they add
proprietary software again.
This is a binary analysis.
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:23:15PM +0200, Robert Schuster wrote:
So the answer is no. As long as Maemo's goal is not 'providing a 100%
free platform' as well I[0] will not contribute[1] to it and I expect
that with more and more freedom respecting projects/products you will
have a hard time
So the answer is no. As long as Maemo's goal is not 'providing a 100%
free platform' as well I[0] will not contribute[1] to it and I expect
that with more and more freedom respecting projects/products you will
have a hard time finding people who do.
This is what I had in mind in my
Hi,
ext Robert Schuster wrote:
Now the funny thing: Recently people found out that building something
on top of what GNU provides can make up a successful business. But
instead of following the idea that brought GNU into existance they add
proprietary software again.
Nokia has contributed to
Robert Schuster wrote:
So the answer is no. As long as Maemo's goal is not 'providing a 100%
free platform' as well I[0] will not contribute[1] to it
There is difference between Nokia and Maemo here. It may not be be goal
for Nokia as a company (no matter what is our opinion on this) but it
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:23:15PM +0200, Robert Schuster wrote:
So the answer is no. As long as Maemo's goal is not 'providing a 100%
free platform' as well I[0] will not contribute[1] to it and I expect
that with more and more freedom respecting projects/products you will
have a hard time
proprietary and open source components (Ubuntu (is Launchpad finally
open?), Novell, IBM etc), it's not either or.
It is in the In Progress queue apparently
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/50699/comments/10
and likely to be released Affero licensed.
To me launchpad.net is kind of
ext Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are not a zealot like me and need an argument now? Ok. The free
software scene came nearly out of nothing. Although free programs
existed long before Linux was written, there was no organisation of
those. One of the early communities that
Interesting thread, and I agree that it's complex for businesses to
find out how open to be while still being able to maintain a working
business model. We certainly live in interesting times. I'm glad
that such a question is on the table.
One thing that comes to mind in terms of augmenting
Hi!
(If some bits sound to serious for your taste, take them with a grain of
salt.)
I finally subscribed to this list because I think the time is right. I
attended LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin/Germany a few days ago. Quim Gil and
other people from Nokia and the Maemo community were there. In the first
Internet (WIMAX) Tablet GG
http://groups.google.com/group/nokia-internet-tablet?hl=en
--- On Mon, 2/6/08, Robert Schuster lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:
From: Robert Schuster lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Subject: Hello Maemo - CFSONID 2008
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Date: Monday, 2 June, 2008, 1:28 PM
Hi!
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 01:28:23PM +0200, Robert Schuster wrote:
I finally subscribed to this list because I think the time is right.
Welcome!
I
attended LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin/Germany a few days ago. Quim Gil and
other people from Nokia and the Maemo community were there. In the first
Hi!
ext Robert Schuster wrote:
In the first
Maemo talk Quim invited the community to speak out to Nokia (Btw: really
Nokia or just the OSSO team?)
Well, Nokia. Don't expect 60.000 employees to be listening though, nor
the CEO being subscribed to this list. ;)
You are not a zealot like me
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