Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-27 Thread A J Thew
On 25/01/2008, Steve Yelvington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since adding GSM capability would bulk up the basic unit, it seems that perhaps an external GSM enabler would be a good move. Connect via Bluetooth. Maybe even make it work as a speaker/mike, so I don't have to wave the Internet tablet

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-26 Thread John Holmblad
James, re your comment: ... It wouldn't take much to add an IP header to it.. That is what the 3GPP^1 has been working toward lo these many years and the standards are now emerging as the Long Term Evolution (LTE^2 ) technology for IMT-Advanced^3 (informally referred to as 4g) mobile

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-26 Thread John Holmblad
Kevin, what is important about Nokia's assertion about building an Internet Tablet that supports WIMAX in the U.S. ~2.4 ghz frequency band has to do with two thing primarily: a) Nokia would like to get a piece of the market action with a big U.S. customer like Sprint, who up until now

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Matt Emson
Kevin T. Neely wrote: This is quite timely, since the FCC spectrum auction just went up today: https://auctionsignon.fcc.gov/signon/index.htm So don't look backward to 20th Century technology, look forward to ubiquitous wireless access, making VOIP a reality and ditching those SIM cards

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread John Holmblad
Gary, I agree that bluetooth tethering is a great solution/workaround to the need to sometimes use the N8XX as a voice communications device. The problem I have is that when I have bluetooth + CDMA/EVDO turn on on my mobile phone, it runs down the battery very quickly. I would like to see

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Adilson Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aaron Newcomb escreveu: If you visit that www page you will see that they refer to the N800 as a Nokia N800 Internet Tablet Cell Phone LOL. That's classic. And it's overpriced. I have a good one about this. A friend ordered the N810 for

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread James Knott
Gary wrote: Joshua Layne wrote: What frequencies would this radio support? (850,900,1700,1800,1900,2100) (1700 and 2100 are data only) What data standards? EDGE? UMTS? HSDPA? and on which of the above frequencies? Quad band phones are more common than they used to be but GPRS,

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Gary
I take some of that back -- I remember using PGPfone over a dialup in '95 and its performance at the time was impressive. Compare that to the first GSM network going live in '91. But PKI's use in GSM is only for network authentication and not en/decipherment of all traffic. Either way,

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Gary
Joshua Layne wrote: What frequencies would this radio support? (850,900,1700,1800,1900,2100) (1700 and 2100 are data only) What data standards? EDGE? UMTS? HSDPA? and on which of the above frequencies? Quad band phones are more common than they used to be but GPRS, even with EDGE, is too

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Gary
Adilson Oliveira wrote: Some time later he told me he spent about 30 minutes answering a lot of questions about why was he buying a cellphone without a cellphone plan. Heh. I had a similar run-in ordering my N810 directly from Nokia (with the dev discount coupon, IIRC). They had to do all

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Joshua Layne
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:22:44 -0500, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty painless to switch the SIM card out. As long as it's open and not packaged from the carrier there should be no issue. I purchased an N95 NAM (north american) from the Nokia Store and put my iPhone ATT

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Newcomb
If you visit that www page you will see that they refer to the N800 as a Nokia N800 Internet Tablet Cell Phone LOL. That's classic. And it's overpriced. -- Thanks, Aaron Newcomb http://www.thesourceshow.org http://www.opennewsshow.org ___

Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Aaron Newcomb
OK enthusiasts, when is this going to happen? I talked about this a lot with attendees of the last Ohio LInuxfest and it is clear that the next generation of this device needs a phone. I know that there will be squabbles with the carriers about not being able to lock down the features (in the US

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Jonathan Greene
I can't imagine Nokia commenting on this publicly ... I agree though - dedicated wireless would be very cool. The first take will be the WiMax enabled device which should show itself sometime in Q2 from what I've read. You'll need to live in a place that can take advantage of this of course,

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 11:38:29AM -0500, Aaron Newcomb wrote: OK enthusiasts, when is this going to happen? I talked about this a lot with attendees of the last Ohio LInuxfest and it is clear that the next generation of this device needs a phone. I know that there will This is quite timely,

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Levi Bard
So don't look backward to 20th Century technology, look forward to ubiquitous wireless access, making VOIP a reality and ditching those SIM cards forever. I couldn't agree more. The Internet Tablets are for the post-phone era (which, IMO, can't come soon enough). -- My Universe is my eyes

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Tim Ashman
Absolutely NOT. I use Skype and Gizmo on my device and have no need for cell phone companies. I sure hope NONE of the current cell phone companies win the FCC auction. tim On 01/24/2008 08:38, Aaron Newcomb wrote: OK enthusiasts, when is this going to happen? I talked about this a lot

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/1/24, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Absolutely NOT. I use Skype and Gizmo on my device and have no need for cell phone companies. But when there's no WiFi access point available, then a GSM/3G phone connection is really handy (German joke)...

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Aaron Newcomb
On Jan 24, 2008 2:32 PM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely NOT. I use Skype and Gizmo on my device and have no need for cell phone companies. Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that I can use Skype or Gizmo and make calls from the current models. However, I am on the road a lot

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Alfredo J. Fabretti
On Jan 24, 2008 5:59 PM, Aaron Newcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008 2:32 PM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely NOT. I use Skype and Gizmo on my device and have no need for cell phone companies. Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that I can use Skype or Gizmo

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Julio Biason
On 25/01/2008, at 7:13 AM, Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: I agree, add cell phone support to the next tablet and it'll be the killer device (yeah, I know the battery usage issue). Yeah, and then we would have to sign with a telephone company too, a la iPhone + ATT deal...

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Alfredo J. Fabretti
On Jan 24, 2008 8:01 PM, Julio Biason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/01/2008, at 7:13 AM, Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: I agree, add cell phone support to the next tablet and it'll be the killer device (yeah, I know the battery usage issue). Yeah, and then we would have to sign with a

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread John Holmblad
Aaron, the N800 and N810 Internet Tablet are what I would call pre-4g mobile devices. Nokia has asserted that is is going to launch a WIMAX version of the Internet Tablet for use on Sprint's Xohm (WIMAX) Network. If Nokia follows through on its announced intent (I think they will), then that

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Jonathan Greene
Interestingly clearwire announced they plan to offer voip using sip today. As I am sure you all know they are sprint's partner in wimax so it's not hard to connect the dots here. We already have a sip stack and always on makes it quite easy to do voice ... Assuming you live or work within an

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Tim Ashman
On 01/24/2008 11:49, sebastian maemo wrote: 2008/1/24, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Absolutely NOT. I use Skype and Gizmo on my device and have no need for cell phone companies. But when there's no WiFi access point available, then a GSM/3G phone connection is really handy (German

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clearwire has offered voip for the broadband wireless service around here for almost a year in our area (Seattle, WA USA). I think our area has been part of their beta test. Bandwidth seems to be a modest problem in our local experience because Clearwire wireless broadband is a popular

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Steve Yelvington
Since adding GSM capability would bulk up the basic unit, it seems that perhaps an external GSM enabler would be a good move. Connect via Bluetooth. Maybe even make it work as a speaker/mike, so I don't have to wave the Internet tablet around in the air to use the phone. It might look like

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Aaron Newcomb
On Jan 24, 2008 5:01 PM, Julio Biason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/01/2008, at 7:13 AM, Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: I agree, add cell phone support to the next tablet and it'll be the killer device (yeah, I know the battery usage issue). Yeah, and then we would have to sign with a

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Gary
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Steve Yelvington wrote: There are compromises to be made whether you take the integrated route (a la iPhone) or the component route (a la Nokia). I have an N800, a The great thing about bluetooth tethering is that you can switch carriers and not have to replace your

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Jonathan Greene
It's pretty painless to switch the SIM card out. As long as it's open and not packaged from the carrier there should be no issue. I purchased an N95 NAM (north american) from the Nokia Store and put my iPhone ATT sim in and have been using it that way since ... no issues - though the the MMS

Re: Nokia NXXX With A Phone!

2008-01-24 Thread Gary
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Jonathan Greene wrote: It's pretty painless to switch the SIM card out. As long as it's open and not packaged from the carrier there should be no issue. I use GSM myself so I'm familiar with how easy it is to swap SIMs. But only two carriers in the U.S. are GSM. Sprint