Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Tim Ashman wrote: Ok, so I've upgraded to diablo over the weekend and for the most part it is great. However I can't stand modest, it just doesn't work in a way that works for me and it appears to have bugs that the older email didn't. If you don't like Modest, you might want to try

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Matt Emson
Matt Emson wrote: If I then checked my main email client, sure enough it was there To clarify - if I check me email later on that day on my MacBook - when no other client had attempted to download the email since the N800 has attempted to. i.e. the email *does* exist. M

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 08 September 2008 16:58:06 Matt Emson wrote: Not solving any of Tim's issues - reporting some of my own: 1) Email will not open - quite often I'll double tap on an email and it does not open, but I can see it is downloaded by the little progress bar in the bottom corner. If I click

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread James Knott
Mark wrote: The assertion that IMAP is better for use on multiple computers is absolutely untrue, as I have had great success with POP3 on multiple computers for many years. The truth is that I have more precise control, with much less fussing and finagling, with POP3 than with IMAP. As a

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
For privacy and robustness use your own server. Make it as dependable as you wish. I didn't mention something that seemed obvious to me: Encrypt everything! Use strong encryption, encrypt mail boxes or whole drives. For sensitive messages exchange the keys with your correspondents. julius On

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Mark
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For privacy and robustness use your own server. Make it as dependable as you wish. I didn't mention something that seemed obvious to me: Encrypt everything! Use strong encryption, encrypt mail boxes or whole drives.

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Mark
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to write that I don't think Andre Klapper wanted to be rude and force others to follow his own ideas. I might be wrong, of course, but having followed his work on Maemo as bugmaster and having read

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Julius Szelagiewicz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For privacy and robustness use your own server. Make it as dependable as you wish. I didn't mention something that seemed obvious to me: Encrypt everything! Use strong

Re: N810 Scratches on Keys

2008-09-08 Thread Mark
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Meh. Things are to be used. Marius Gedminas -- Chuckle Agreed! I have to wonder when I see a car, or especially a truck, that is more than a couple of years old and is absolutely spotless, with nary a nick or

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 08 September 2008 22:01:36 Gary wrote: Mark wrote: Um, no, maybe it's one of those ugly hacks, but viewing just the headers is possible with POP3. Also, telneting to pine gives the equivalent functionality *without* any hacks. Perhaps with some mail clients but it's not part of

Re: N810 Scratches on Keys

2008-09-08 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 13:35 -0600, Mark wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Meh. Things are to be used. Marius Gedminas -- Chuckle Agreed! I have to wonder when I see a car, or especially a truck, that is more than a couple of

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Mark
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark wrote: Um, no, maybe it's one of those ugly hacks, but viewing just the headers is possible with POP3. Also, telneting to pine gives the equivalent functionality *without* any hacks. Perhaps with some mail clients but it's

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to write that I don't think Andre Klapper wanted to be rude and force others to follow his own ideas. I might be wrong, of course, but having

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen
Mark wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to write that I don't think Andre Klapper wanted to be rude and force others to follow his own ideas. I might be wrong, of course, but having followed his work on Maemo as bugmaster and

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 06:39:05 am Andre Klapper wrote: Am Montag, den 08.09.2008, 06:22 -0700 schrieb Tim Ashman: My first choice at this point would be to just be able to install the older email and ditch modest. I don't think that osso-email has been ported to Diablo. Nobody works

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 07:23:47 am Peter Bart wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:12:09 +0200 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tim Ashman wrote: Ok, so I've upgraded to diablo over the weekend and for the most part it is great. However I can't stand modest, it just doesn't

Re: Fw: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 08:21:21 am Sergio Villar Senin wrote: Hi Tim, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 06:22:50 -0700 Para: maemo-users@maemo.org Para: maemo-users@maemo.org Ok, so I've upgraded to diablo over the weekend and for the most part it is

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 10:32:10 am James Knott wrote: Mark wrote: The assertion that IMAP is better for use on multiple computers is absolutely untrue, as I have had great success with POP3 on multiple computers for many years. The truth is that I have more precise control, with much

Re: Fw: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Mark
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a POP account the messages are deleted from the server unless you check the option Leave messages on server which is checked by default. As you could see the more conservative option is the default one. Yes, I do have

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 11:34:03 am Mark wrote: Again, this is a *limitation*, not an asset, as far as I am concerned. I find it ironic that people who are ordinarily paranoid about privacy, reliability, control, etc. don't have a problem putting their faith in some server that could be

Re: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 11:43:01 am Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: All that said, I still can't fathom why would anyone really want all the email on a mobile device that is prone to loss or failure when dropped. Having a tiny Linux server that fetches all your email from all the sources, puts

Re: Fw: Diablo's Modest/Email

2008-09-08 Thread Tim Ashman
On Monday 08 September 2008 03:44:19 pm Mark wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a POP account the messages are deleted from the server unless you check the option Leave messages on server which is checked by default. As you could see the more