Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/12/8 andre999 and...@laposte.net: By presenting a special set of repositories for patent-affected software, we could be seen as justifying these patent sharks. In their minds, why else would be accommodate them ? Patented software is a reality in some countries. You can't discuss it away

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/12/8 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com: For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, not even mp3 playback is possible in a default install. They even don't include any non-free stuff, so no

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Daniel Kreuter
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.comwrote: Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? In Ubuntu you have some patented

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Oliver Burger
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com schrieb am 2010-12-08 On 8 December 2010 10:51, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, not even mp3 playback is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Daniel Kreuter
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.comwrote: Yes, I know. The question was: do they have those patented software within the same repo as all the other software or do they have an extra repo for that. -- wobo - *Main* - Officially supported

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 08 décembre 2010 à 09:51 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/12/8 andre999 and...@laposte.net: By presenting a special set of repositories for patent-affected software, we could be seen as justifying these patent sharks. In their minds, why else would be accommodate them ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 8 December 2010 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/12/8 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com: For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, not even mp3 playback is possible in a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Anssi Hannula
Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti: 2010/12/8 andre999 and...@laposte.net: Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories.  According to comments on the list : none. Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because they do not distribute such software at all, In

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Anssi Hannula
Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti: 2010/12/8 Daniel Kreuter daniel.kreute...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Anssi Hannula
Ahmad Samir kirjoitti: Debian has a non-US repo... etc There hasn't been a non-US repo in Debian releases in years. It existed due to cryptographic regulations in the US, IIRC. -- Anssi Hannula

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Nex6
On 12/8/2010 5:47 AM, Anssi Hannula wrote: Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti: 2010/12/8 andre999and...@laposte.net: Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories. Â According to comments on the list : none. Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because they do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread herman
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:35 -0700, Nex6 wrote: Fedora does not have such software. I personally would follow the fedora model. Fedora is same as Mandriva and Suse. See Livna and Packman respectively.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Oliver Burger
herman her...@aeronetworks.ca schrieb am 2010-12-08 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:35 -0700, Nex6 wrote: I personally would follow the fedora model. Fedora is same as Mandriva and Suse. See Livna and Packman respectively. We are no company that has to be concerned with selling its product in some

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread herman
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:28 -0700, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So, we either abandon the mirrorlist approach or we have 2 mirrorlists (one with and one without tainted software) and let the user decide which one he sets up on his system. +1 for two mirror lists. This is probably the simplest

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/12/8 herman her...@aeronetworks.ca: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:28 -0700, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: So, we either abandon the mirrorlist approach or we have 2 mirrorlists (one with and one without tainted software) and let the user decide which one he sets up on his system. +1 for two mirror

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-08 Thread Dale Huckeby
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 8 December 2010 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/12/8 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com: For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they don't include any patented software in their official repos at

[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?

2010-12-07 Thread andre999
We have a proposal to add an optional set of respositories for packages subject to software patents - or at least, seem to be at risk of civil pursuits in some countries, based on supposed violation of software patents. As we know, the suggested name for these repositories is tainted. Some