[Mailman-Developers] Fully Zope-based Mailman Version

2001-12-01 Thread Stephan Richter
Hello everyone, I just had a look into Mailman again. The API seems to be very clear, even though I could not find any UML diagrams anywhere. However I found out that porting Mailman to Zope (as a Python Product) might be a very simple task. Due to the nature of the project, the implementation

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Options

2001-12-01 Thread John W Baxter
At 2:18 -0500 12/1/01, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >I'm more concerned with the user who fills up his disk and doesn't >notice it for a week because they're on vacation. I'd like Mailman to >be robust against this, and I think the average non-deliveries over a >couple of weeks, with consignment to pro

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Options

2001-12-01 Thread Bob Puff@@NLE
> My simplification assumes that temporary failures really /are/ > temporary! I think my approach is robust in the face of probably the > most common temporary failure I see as a list admin: a user running > out of disk space for a period of several days or a week. Once they > get a clue and fre

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Options

2001-12-01 Thread Bob Puff@@NLE
Ok, I've thought more about this today, and optimized my code a little.. Check this out: min_bounce_days = 5 (max # of days we say it will take for a bounce to come to us) max_bounce_days = 14 (number of days to allow bouncing) Once every day (really doesn't matter when), post_counter is incre

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Options

2001-12-01 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 11/30/01 11:18 PM, "Barry A. Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > B> I'm not so sure if doing an estimated average of messages sent > B> is the right thing. > > Me neither. It /seems/ reasonable... It is, but it's lots of work. How about something simpler: Timestamp the FIRST bounce o

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Options

2001-12-01 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> If the bounce is RFC compliant, it's fairly simple to CVR> determine "hard" and "soft" bounces, and since they are CVR> following the standards, it's not a huge amount of CVR> work. Treat a "soft" bounce as half a b

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Options

2001-12-01 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 11/30/01 10:08 PM, "Dale Newfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >> - For simplicity, let's treat non-fatal bounces (some temporary >> outage) the same as fatal bounces (user goes away) > > Your scheme makes sense What you might consider is this: