[Mailman-Developers] Re: mailman and voting (fwd)

2002-11-15 Thread Marilyn Davis
Excuse me. I didn't realize that reply-to's didn't go to the whole list. Now I realize. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:32:02 -0800 (PST) From: Marilyn Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: David Champion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: mailman and voting On Thu, 14

[Mailman-Developers] 2 mailman queries

2002-11-15 Thread Carson Gaspar
A few questions have come up from one of my list users that I can't answer (without delving into python source, anyway ;-). I've mentioned the first one before, but I'm hoping the answer may have changed with new code - is there any way to force line breaks in messages without leaving a blank l

[Mailman-Developers] notification d'abonnement de Powerteam_fr

2002-11-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
Is/was there a bug with expanding strings for foreign languages? (my mailman is probably cvs as of 5-6 weeks ago) - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: notification d'abonnement de Powerteam_fr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Administrivia: yes %(memb

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Reasons why personalization of the To/Fromare a bad idea...

2002-11-15 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 02:06:38PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: > > 3) I can't prove this, but... Since I went to To/From header > > personalization, I've started getting complaints about mail not > > getting to AOL users. > > Yeah, this is not terribly surprising. I suspect you're running afoul >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] no digest buttons on mailman-announce webpage

2002-11-15 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "BZ" == Blair Zajac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BZ> Just checked the web page BZ> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-announce BZ> and where it says: BZ> "Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily BZ> digest? No Yes" BZ> there are no

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman and voting

2002-11-15 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Hi Marilyn, > "MD" == Marilyn Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MD> I am the developer of eVote/Clerk, which hooks onto a MD> maillist-server in the alias file and looks for commands in MD> the incoming mail that start with "eVote". These are diverted MD> and parsed by eVote

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread J C Lawrence
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:02:46 +0100 fil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FWLIW I don't believe in rewriting history. For that reason and >> others related to it I don't remove messages from archives, or do >> anything more with X-No-Archive other than laughing while I ignore >> it. > Why not. Th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Fil
> FWLIW I don't believe in rewriting history. For that reason and others > related to it I don't remove messages from archives, or do anything more > with X-No-Archive other than laughing while I ignore it. Why not. I was talking about technical issues: is it efficient to generate the pages "on t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread J C Lawrence
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:03:49 -0800 Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 12:14 PM, Fil wrote: >>> Or perhaps a better way would be to store messages static, meta-data >>> in a database, and build indexes on the fly, since the messages >>> won't change

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 12:14 PM, Fil wrote: Or perhaps a better way would be to store messages static, meta-data in a database, and build indexes on the fly, since the messages won't change Why shouldn't the messages change? People have the right to send me an email saying "ple

Re: [Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread bjoernk
Thank you all very much for your support! > With all due respect, may I suggest you become a tad more familiar with > CVS before running a CVS version of Mailman on a production server? Actually I just have rarely used CVS up to now... I know... I am a greenhorn. Sorry for that! :) I feel ashamed

Re: [Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread Greg Ward
[please keep this sort of thing on the public list -- at the very least, it should be archived for future reference. And I'm not the only CVS expert who can help you out.] On 15 November 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Thanks, Greg. But how do I know CVS is going to checkout the right > Mailman v

Re: [Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "bjoernk" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bjoernk> Thanks, Greg. But how do I know CVS is going to checkout bjoernk> the right Mailman version? Don't I have to tell CVS my bjoernk> CVSROOT in order to make it clear that it checks out bjoernk> Mailman Version 2.1b4 instead o

Re: [Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread bjoernk
Greg, > You can't update until you have checked out. The correct sequence is > > cvs -d ... login > cvs -d ... checkout mailman > [... time passes, changes get checked in ...] > cd mailman && cvs update > > Note that the argument you passed to -d needs to be repeated for the > 'checkout

Re: [Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "bjoernk" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bjoernk> Then, I tried to use the following command: bjoernk> "cvs update" bjoernk> and then CVS tells me: no CVSROOT set. What path shall I bjoernk> use? You need to provide the -d option on both the login and the initial co com

Re: [Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread Greg Ward
On 15 November 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I would like to make an update via CVS to my Mailman 2.1b4 production > system. I tried the following: > > "cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/mailman > login" > > and then simply hit "enter". > > Then, I tried to use the following command: >

[Mailman-Developers] CVS update

2002-11-15 Thread bjoernk
Hello! I would like to make an update via CVS to my Mailman 2.1b4 production system. I tried the following: "cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/mailman login" and then simply hit "enter". Then, I tried to use the following command: "cvs update" and then CVS tells me: no CVSROOT set. W

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Greg Ward
On 15 November 2002, Fil said: > I'd try a go at it, but that would have to be php or perl ;-( Umm, it *is* possible to do web development in Python, you know. ;-) I'm partial to Quixote myself: www.mems-exchange.org/software/quixote/ . Greg -- Greg Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Fil
> Or perhaps a better way would be to store messages static, > meta-data in a database, and build indexes on the fly, since the > messages won't change Why shouldn't the messages change? People have the right to send me an email saying "please delete my name from the archives" - usually it's

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:26:29AM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > +1. I wonder if you couldn't largely acheive those results by > fronting your archive w/ squid (he says, having never set up a squid > server). Say your archives are always built on demand, but squid > thinks they're static and fe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 06:26 AM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: +1. I wonder if you couldn't largely acheive those results by fronting your archive w/ squid (he says, having never set up a squid server). Say your archives are always built on demand, but squid thinks they're static and feeds

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Translingual Mailing List Functionality

2002-11-15 Thread Steven Clift
To further develop your idea you might want to contact that folks that put together JuniorSummit at MIT: http://www.jrsummit.net Back in 1998 they used the lyris e-list server and machine translation to connect hundreds of kids all using different languages. Their general approach was to all

Re: [Mailman-Developers] import errors

2002-11-15 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MS" == Mikhail Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Could not find platform independent libraries | Could not find platform dependent libraries | Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:] | 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback Re-installi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] import errors

2002-11-15 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
I still have those problems (I had to put the whole thing aside for a couple of weeks). What I have: up-to-date (as of now) cvs version of Mailman checked out Debian Linux system (unstable) python2.2 installed on it The problem: While starting the mailman (mailmanctl -s -q start

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CVR> Wouldn't archives make more sense doing a "build when CVR> requested" model instead? +1. I wonder if you couldn't largely acheive those results by fronting your archive w/ squid (he says, having never set up a squid server

Re: [Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Fil
> one of my big frustrations with mhonarc is it builds all of the > archives every time you update a file or add a message, and changing > your look and feel is a horrendous problem. Lots of CPU goes to maknig > stuff ready in case someone wants something. > > Wouldn't archives make more sense

[Mailman-Developers] thinking out loud...

2002-11-15 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
Take a look at this: http://philringnalda.com/archives/002388.php doesn't this idea (baked vs. fried) seem to be a perfect setup for mailing list archives? one of my big frustrations with mhonarc is it builds all of the archives every time you update a file or add a message, and changing you