Re: [Mailman-Developers] Parsing and Rendering rfc8222

2006-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >Ethan said: > >> I plan on using [2] to generate mbox thread indexes for rapid navigation >> of lists. Any suggestions for more robust variants would be welcome; >> feedback on how to handle threading for message-id-less messages would >> also be welcome. > >All messages shoul

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Parsing and Rendering rfc8222

2006-07-04 Thread Brad Knowles
Ethan said: > In the interest of not reinventing the wheel, I'm looking for existing > python (or other!) code that does the things I need. I'm also putting > out a call for anybody who likes this sort of thing to help me out (see > below). Don't ignore non-Python solutions. In particular, you s

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

2006-07-04 Thread Brad Knowles
Barry Warsaw wrote: >> I will do this for browsers not employing JavaScript. Screen readers >> employ JavaScript and provide no indication what they do/do not >> provide >> feedback to the user for. > > Will this also work for browsers with JS enabled per-page, a la the > Firefox NoScript extensio

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

2006-07-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:06 PM, emf wrote: > Brad Knowles wrote: > >> Speaking only for myself, this is not the kind of approach I'd >> like to see >> used. I'd prefer to see the web application auto-detect that >> JavaScript >> is not available, and

[Mailman-Developers] Parsing and Rendering rfc8222

2006-07-04 Thread emf
Dearest mail manipulating macaques and perambulating python prestidigitators, I have been blessed by the grace of Google and so am working full-time on improving Mailman's web UI: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Summer+of+Code In order to provide interfaces to archives, I believe I must perfo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

2006-07-04 Thread emf
emf wrote: >> Likewise, it should auto-detect that there is a >> screen reader being used, and present the appropriate screen reader >> compatible interface. > > This is an admirable goal. One "screen reader" in semi-common use is IE > 6 via Jaws; another one is Safari with OS X reading turned o

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

2006-07-04 Thread emf
Brad Knowles wrote: > Speaking only for myself, this is not the kind of approach I'd like to see > used. I'd prefer to see the web application auto-detect that JavaScript > is not available, and therefore to automatically present the appropriate > non-JavaScript interface. I will do this for br

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Please Tell Me How You Translate

2006-07-04 Thread Brad Knowles
Ethan replied to Barry: >>> Pretty please, I need to set up a copy of someone's translation >>> toolchain; can someone using OS X or Linux as their work operating >>> system work with me to get an *exact* replica of their toolset? >> >> Have you gotten any love on this issue Ethan? > > No love as

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

2006-07-04 Thread Brad Knowles
Ethan wrote: > Note that this would be in *addition* to the ability to get a JS-free > version of the interface by using a different URL prefix for any user > agent that doesn't want the JS action. Speaking only for myself, this is not the kind of approach I'd like to see used. I'd prefer to see

[Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

2006-07-04 Thread emf
Gentlebeings, I have read a depressing and recent article suggesting that DOM manipulations are invisible to most screen readers [1]. There are some workarounds suggested in [2], but for the most part it looks like dangerous territory. What's worse, there seems to be no way to detect screen re

[Mailman-Developers] Please Tell Me How You Translate

2006-07-04 Thread emf
Barry Warsaw wrote: > I'm sure this was ages ago, but IIRC, UTF-8 was discussed at some point > and the decision was made not to use it because it's support was pretty > spotty in the browsers of the time. I'm sure this has improved vastly > now and UTF-8 makes the most sense. Yeah, that soun

[Mailman-Developers] sender-based authentication

2006-07-04 Thread David Lee
A few weeks ago I opened a discussion "sender-based authorisation" about something similar to "Approved: password", but where the password would be associated with a person (sender) rather than a list. There seemed to be agreement in principle. (For the history, see that thread.) Being completel