Re: [Mailman-Developers] Improving the archives

2007-07-05 Thread John Dennis
or at least look at an example of what would be necessary to allow easy easy external archiving integration with Mailman you might want to look at Lurker. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Interacting with mailman remotely throughAPIs / wrappers

2007-05-31 Thread John Dennis
example of how to use the mailman API directly. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Interacting with mailman remotely through APIs / wrappers

2007-05-24 Thread John Dennis
the Python modules directly? Any pointers to the right docs here would be appreciated. Your best bet might be to look at the command line interfaces under the /bin directory in the source tarball. For the case cited you'll want to look at bin/newlist. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Should we move to Bazaar?

2007-05-03 Thread John Dennis
the options to the SCM's which currently have the most mindshare the pain threshold for developers would be mitigated and the project would have stronger assurances of on-going future support for the SCM. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Should we move to Bazaar?

2007-05-03 Thread John Dennis
that myself! Is there a Mercurial equivalent to SF for cvs and svn, or Launchpad for bzr? The Fedora Project has started project hosting as well. At the moment it is Trac based with Mercurial as one of the SCM options. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Should we move to Bazaar?

2007-05-02 Thread John Dennis
for about 5 months and it has worked well. FWIW we have other projects also using Mercurial. I'll confess I'm not familiar with Bazaar and what it has to offer, it may be the optimal choice, but I'm wondering, have you given Mercurial serious consideration? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Templating the interface

2007-05-01 Thread John Dennis
distribution or by installing an RPM from another release, but this would be a site customization unsupported by Red Hat. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learn. Network. Experience open source. Red Hat Summit San Diego | May 9-11, 2007 Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2007

Re: [Mailman-Developers] email schemas

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
something analogous to this; while I don't intend to write each mail out as xml, there should be an url you can tickle to get out an xml representation. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat Inc. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers

Re: [Mailman-Developers] email schemas

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 17:24 +0100, Ian Eiloart wrote: --On 6 July 2006 11:30:08 -0400 John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure I understand what the purpose is in treating the extended fields differently, it seems like it would overly complicate the xml navigation without any

Re: [Mailman-Developers] email schemas

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
names have identical document structure rather than special casing the extended names in an independent way. Special casing during a document traversal based on context introduces unnecessary pain. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat Inc

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Users, persistent storage, caches, etc.

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
defined in the site's global properties?, else attribute is undefined -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat Inc. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Parsing and Rendering rfc2822

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
your summer of code? You've got great ideas, but be realistic about what you can actually accomplish and don't forget for those folks who dislike pipermail one can with minimal effort use an external archiver. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat Inc

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Parsing and Rendering rfc2822

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 14:17 -0400, John Dennis wrote: ... don't forget for those folks who dislike pipermail one can with minimal effort use an external archiver. Oh, and I should have added that one of the beefs with using an external archiver is the disjoint UI between mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] email schema / XSLT

2006-07-06 Thread John Dennis
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 18:07 -0400, emf wrote: John Dennis wrote: Speaking of stylesheets and customized UI, are you planning on having the core mailman code generate xml, which then is transformed with xslt? This would be nice. My immediate target is getting email into an ElementTree

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Parsing and Rendering rfc8222

2006-07-05 Thread John Dennis
into Mailman lets define the interfaces which are needed such that Mailman can operate cooperatively with any archiver which supports a well defined API. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat Inc. ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mysql MemberAdaptor 1.61 and Mailman 2.1.6

2005-10-27 Thread John Dennis
Object, don't you love the name?) But since the bounce data is converted to text the TEXT data type makes more sense than BLOB. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] structural problem with MemberAdapter

2005-10-12 Thread John Dennis
a 95% solution, the list creation/deletion hooks are the missing 5% and I doubt I'll finish that work. I wonder if 95% is useful to people. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http

[Mailman-Developers] structural problem with MemberAdapter

2005-09-21 Thread John Dennis
, it was not clear how an adapter might implement just a subset of the methods via inheritance, I suppose it would copy the function pointers from the mlist._memberadapter into its own methods before resetting mlist._memberadapter to itself. yes/no? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Mailman-Developers] 2.1.5 README files replaced by admin/www in 2.1.6?

2005-06-08 Thread John Dennis
README.LINUX README.MACOSX README.POSTFIX README.QMAIL README.SENDMAIL -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Fwd: [ mailman-Bugs-1188133 ] CGI group id not properly tested]

2005-04-23 Thread John Dennis
succeeds no matter who invoked mailman and all security is defeated. Note: I have only responded to this list, I have not updated the original bug posting. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers

[Mailman-Developers] when is driver script invoked?

2005-02-28 Thread John Dennis
party cgi scripts? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives

[Mailman-Developers] [Fwd: [vendor-sec] Weak auto-generated passwords in Mailman]

2004-12-15 Thread John Dennis
3.0 feature list. BTW, is there an independent MM 3.0 list? I thought I had heard such a beast existed, but my recollection is hazy. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- Hi, do you have a trusted contact to the Mailman developers? Their home page doesn't seem to list a security

Re: [Mailman-Developers] FHS installation changes

2004-10-19 Thread John Dennis
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] FHS installation changes

2004-10-19 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 11:34, Dale Newfield wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, John Dennis wrote: mailmanctl stop;config.status;make install;mailmanctl start Just remembered that I missed check_perms -f in there. Which of course brings up the point that presumably this script would need lots

Re: [Mailman-Developers] this mail-gid problem

2004-10-18 Thread John Dennis
of packages and much more security driven. This patch which has been in our RPM for a while is on the table for removal because of these security concerns. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailman security is in part enforced by requiring it execute SGID. When the mail process or the web server attempts

[Mailman-Developers] FHS installation changes

2004-10-18 Thread John Dennis
=$VAR_PREFIX/locks FHS=/var/lock/mailman LOG_DIR:default=$VAR_PREFIX/logsFHS=/var/log/mailman QUEUE_DIR default=$VAR_PREFIX/qfiles FHS=/var/spool/mailman -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only in mailman-2.1.5.FHS: autom4te.cache diff -r -u mailman-2.1.5.orig/bin

[Mailman-Developers] make finish?

2004-10-06 Thread John Dennis
permission on $prefix/archives/private, but it leaves group read/write. This suggests to me that $prefix/cgi-bin/private with setgid and arbitrary owner (e.g. without running the finish) is fine and thus leads me to the conclusion the finish target is cruft. Is this right? -- John Dennis [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 8bit and NNTP gateway

2004-09-21 Thread John Dennis
could you elaborate on UID/GID constraints which prevent you from using a postfix/mailman combination? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers

RE: [Mailman-Developers] Min requirements for running Mailman?

2004-09-09 Thread John Dennis
would like to hope so, as I find 2.1.5 far superior to 2.0.13. Mailman 2.1.5 is in RHEL 4 -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Min requirements for running Mailman?

2004-08-31 Thread John Dennis
to maintain a mailman FAQ entry denigrating Red Hat or reiterate that view in the mailing list for a past mistake, may we apply for forgiveness? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Min requirements for running Mailman?

2004-08-31 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:06, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:45 AM -0400 2004-08-31, John Dennis wrote: To the best of my knowledge the problems were addressed and there are many satisfied users. We did ship a package with an install problem, but then again bugs happen, its the nature

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Python versions (was: Re: RELEASED Mailman 2.1.5)

2004-05-20 Thread John Dennis
becomes a requirement... FC2 which was just released has 2.3.3 as will RHEL4. Red Hat users if they use Red Hat rpms will never have to build Python from source. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Announce] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.5

2004-05-18 Thread John Dennis
? Is there a CVE or CAN open against it? I assume given the public announcement this is not an embargoed security exploit, or is it? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] What happens with mailman after a crash

2004-01-27 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 13:26, Les Niles wrote: On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:39:24 -0800 Somuchfun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question in regards to mailman's recovery abilities. Let's say mailman is running and sending out messages to a large list and the machine crashes or is rebooted, does

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Log file rollovers

2003-10-09 Thread John Dennis
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[Mailman-Developers] mailmanctl -s arg on service start

2003-02-06 Thread John Dennis
The mailman script which is used to start/stop/restart the mailman daemon invokes mailmanctl with the -s argument when starting the service. This argument purportedly is for stale lock clean up. One consequence of passing this arg during a service start is that mailmanctl bypasses the lockfile