Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-03 Thread Dale Newfield
Brad Knowles wrote: > So, every package written in Perl should include a complete Perl > implementation of its very own? You have misunderstood me. I'm not talking about the languages, I'm talking about fink and darwinPorts. If the only clean way to get multiple language versions to play well t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-03 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On Friday, December 3, 2004 13:41:10 GMT +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Ian" == Ian Eiloart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> However, MacOSX and MacOSX Server have python Python 2.3 (#1, Ian> Sep 13 2003, 00:49:11), so requiring 2.4 could cause pain for Ian

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-03 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:31 PM -0600 2004-12-02, Dale Newfield wrote: Oh, yeah, back to the topic. Guess I don't have anything to add except to say that requiring all these bolt-on tools in order to install mailman is a bit harsh for non-admins... So, every package written in Perl should include a complete Perl

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-02 Thread Dale Newfield
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: (1) Apple already has a couple of "multi-version" applications standard (in particular, GCC, see the gcc_select utility) gcc_select is completely broken, and doesn't work. It assumes that the only 3.x is 3.1 and fails even at what it claims to do. I have tried and fai

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Ian" == Ian Eiloart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> However, MacOSX and MacOSX Server have python Python 2.3 (#1, Ian> Sep 13 2003, 00:49:11), so requiring 2.4 could cause pain for Ian> anyone with a Mac installation of Mailman. I'm not going to deprecate someone else's pain,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-02 Thread Bryan Fullerton
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:36:55 +0900, Tokio Kikuchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And also, mailman 2.2 will no be out before next summer. I expect many > venders are including Python 2.4 by that time. As a perhaps extraneous data point supporting this, the FreeBSD lang/python port was bumped from

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-02 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi again, Brad Knowles wrote: If you're going to put vanilla Mailman on top of MacOS X, then you could also install Python 2.4 as well. And also, mailman 2.2 will no be out before next summer. I expect many venders are including Python 2.4 by that time. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-02 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:47 AM + 2004-12-02, Ian Eiloart wrote: Now, I know someone is going to point out that Apple provide a much hacked version of Mailman - but that's a red herring. I'm referring to people who put vanilla mailman on top of MacOSX - as we plan to do. If you're going to put vanilla Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-02 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On Wednesday, December 1, 2004 09:05:20 GMT -0500 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:07, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: Sorry my response is slow :-) No worries! Yeah, I think I can contribute 2.2 while you are at 3.0. Looking back the design notes, we have already some of

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-01 Thread John Dennis
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 09:05, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > May be we can go forward to requirement of Python 2.4 because CJK codecs > > are integreted there. > > I have no problems requiring Python 2.4 for Mailman 2.2, although I > would like to get some feedback from the community before we decide for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-01 Thread Dallas Bethune
On Dec 1, 2004, at 8:49 AM, John W. Baxter wrote: On 12/1/2004 6:05, "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have no problems requiring Python 2.4 for Mailman 2.2, although I would like to get some feedback from the community before we decide for sure. I wouldn't be opposed to requiring at le

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-01 Thread John W. Baxter
On 12/1/2004 6:05, "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no problems requiring Python 2.4 for Mailman 2.2, although I > would like to get some feedback from the community before we decide for > sure. I wouldn't be opposed to requiring at least Python 2.3, but I > definitely think we

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-12-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 20:07, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > Sorry my response is slow :-) No worries! > Yeah, I think I can contribute 2.2 while you are at 3.0. Looking back > the design notes, we have already some of 2.2 features in 2.1.6. > http://zope.org/Members/bwarsaw/MailmanDesignNotes/MailmanTwo

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-11-30 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi Barry, Sorry my response is slow :-) Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 08:10, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > > >>Since I took charge of CVS committer this September, I belive we could >>fix number of bugs, merged a few new small-but-nice features, and the >>code became fairly stable. And,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-11-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 08:10, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > Since I took charge of CVS committer this September, I belive we could > fix number of bugs, merged a few new small-but-nice features, and the > code became fairly stable. And, I write 'fixed in CVS' many times > answering bug reports these days.

[Mailman-Developers] Maybe it's time to release 2.1.6

2004-11-25 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi Developers, Since I took charge of CVS committer this September, I belive we could fix number of bugs, merged a few new small-but-nice features, and the code became fairly stable. And, I write 'fixed in CVS' many times answering bug reports these days. Although I have some new features to be ad