* Need to convert rfc8222 to xml/html
I haven't found anything substantial via searching. My next step is to
go spelunking in MailManager code and other python-webmail packages. If
anyone knows good trees in this forest, please clue me in.
Do you mean 2822? or 822? 8222 doesn't exist. Any
--On Tuesday, July 4, 2006 9:44 PM +0200 emf wrote:
I am determined to provide some JavaScript in the 'standard'
interface, as it will make for enhanced ease-of-use for those sighted
people using a modern browser.
Hi Ethan,
It says in 6.3 of WCAG 1.0 to Ensure that pages are usable when
If mailman would be able to write an xml representation of
each message to a separate file, that would be wonderful.
Then one would be able to use xlst stylesheets to make
custom archives. I hacked something like this together for
an on-line class. The workflow was:
(1) mailman writes each
(Mailman 2.1.8)
Probably trivial; probably my misunderstanding. But...
... at the end of Approve.py is some code to detect multiple passes
through a list (x-beenthere etc.).
But Approve.py is about handling passwords, whereas loop-detection has
no relation to such authentication issues.
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 15:44 -0400, emf wrote:
In order to provide interfaces to archives, I believe I must perform
some intermediary manipulation; my goal is to get the information
contained within the .mbox files mailman generates into ElementTrees and
other objects so as to represent them
emf wrote:
Gentlebeings,
I have read a depressing and recent article suggesting that DOM
manipulations are invisible to most screen readers [1]. There are some
workarounds suggested in [2], but for the most part it looks like
dangerous territory.
Silly me, I didn't include the links.
Laura Carlson wrote:
Heavyweight DOM scripting, often results in inaccessible content,
The main point I'm driving at is *any* dom manipulation - heavy, light,
fat-free, or decaf - appears to be invisible to the screen reading user
unless I do it downstream of the focused text. I'm talking
On 7/5/06 11:26 AM, emf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem I face is not when JavaScript is not active, the problem is
when JavaScript *is* active *and* behaves correctly - i.e. performs the
dom modification I've told it to - but the browser/screen reader doesn't
bother to tell the user.
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On Jul 5, 2006, at 10:26 AM, David Lee wrote:
(Mailman 2.1.8)
Probably trivial; probably my misunderstanding. But...
... at the end of Approve.py is some code to detect multiple passes
through a list (x-beenthere etc.).
But Approve.py is
--On Wednesday, July 5, 2006 8:54 PM +0200 emf wrote:
Are you suggesting I provide *no* link for the
screen-reader-with-javascript client and let them at some point
figure out that they're not seeing what's going on and thus turn off
javascript?
That seems like a worse solution.
I'm
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If you want to get a taste of the things I'm going to check in soon,
please see:
http://wiki.list.org/x/vg
- -Barry
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Laura Carlson wrote:
--On Wednesday, July 5, 2006 8:54 PM +0200 emf wrote:
Are you suggesting I provide *no* link for the
screen-reader-with-javascript client and let them at some point
figure out that they're not seeing what's going on and thus turn off
javascript?
That seems like a
John Dennis wrote:
It's not at all clear to me that mailman should be responsible for
archiving.
While I am somewhat in agreement, the current situation is that
archiving comes bundled with mailman and represents a significant
weakness in its current web UI. Not doing anything about the web
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On Jul 5, 2006, at 6:37 PM, emf wrote:
I seem to
recall this is also Barry's preference who noted the existing
pipermail
was only a stop-gap solution so there would be some default archiver,
but it was never the intention Mailman would have
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On Jul 4, 2006, at 3:44 PM, emf wrote:
Here's where I'm at, grouped functionally:
* Need to convert rfc8222 to xml/html
I haven't found anything substantial via searching. My next step is to
go spelunking in MailManager code and other
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On Jul 4, 2006, at 5:33 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:
Don't ignore non-Python solutions.
My main problem with non-Python solutions /as a default for Mailman/
is that it complicates distribution and packaging. It means that
we'll have additional
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On Jul 5, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Hans G. Ehrbar wrote:
If mailman would be able to write an xml representation of
each message to a separate file, that would be wonderful.
Then one would be able to use xlst stylesheets to make
custom archives.
It's
There is MSAA, Microsoft Active Accessibility, and a replacement with Vista, I
believe, but don't remember what it is called. Don't know if they can be used
by style sheets, but inquiry to [EMAIL PROTECTED] might be in order.
Dave
At 12:45 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
Gentlebeings,
I have read
I believe there is a screen reader present flag in Windows, don't know any
more than that.
Dave
At 12:59 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
Ethan wrote:
Note that this would be in *addition* to the ability to get a JS-free
version of the interface by using a different URL prefix for any user
agent
I believe that the W3C standards require that Javascript and other components
fail gracefully, so the point could be made, for things link Lynx and Links
that a graceful degrade would also take care of us screen reader users.
Anything specific you write for us, while appreciated, is also
On 7/5/06 4:30 PM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm thinking something along the lines of sha1 hashing Message-ID and
perhaps Date. RFC 2822 $3.6 says that the only required headers are
the origination date (Date:) and originator address fields (From: and
possibly Sender: and
I have installed a mirror of Wikipedia in my site here :
http://encyclopedia.meta99.com/
But i have some problems. I never used MediaWiki in past and i'm a newbie.
Can you help me ?
1) Some pages has strange words that don't exists in Wikipedia-
For example the Cats page and the Dogs page :
I MADE AN ERROR WITH ANOTHER MAILING LIST
I have posted the message in
mailman-developers@python.org and not in
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PARDON ME
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