Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius test debugging problem : tests_forms.py

2015-02-27 Thread Abhilash Raj
On 28 February 2015 at 10:07, Pranjal Yadav godricg...@gmail.com wrote: Abhilash, Thanks! it worked as you said. But renaming clean method is not conventional. I changed the names and it looks like 'clean_password_repeat' is good and that is the last input for that test as well, so I don't

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius test debugging problem : tests_forms.py

2015-02-27 Thread Abhilash Raj
On 27 February 2015 at 20:39, Pranjal Yadav godricg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Abhilash, Thanks for your help. I read that we need to define methods as clean_fieldname however I missed I was cleaning multiple fields. For the listname method it works the way you told me but I tried something

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Approach for plugin ideas

2015-02-27 Thread Abhilash Raj
On 27 February 2015 at 19:16, Aanand Shekhar Roy 2013...@iiitdmj.ac.in wrote: Based on the discussion with @Abhilash, Below is the modified approach for plugin ideas: *Banned Words*: 1. We create a common set of words that are to be banned in a mail. How do you create such a list, who

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius test debugging problem : tests_forms.py

2015-02-27 Thread Pranjal Yadav
Abhilash, renaming 'clean_password' to 'clean' did help in running all the tests successfully but looking at the coverage stats I realized the 'invalid_email' test is still not functional since those lines are shown as 'missing' in stats, So it was just a work around and it didn't actually help.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/27/2015 12:24 AM, Terri Oda wrote: It's not that it's a bad feature in isolation. But there are so *many* potential features for Mailman, and I'd like to see ideas that are less socially problematic get implemented first. And there are many customer relations managements systems

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Approach for plugin ideas

2015-02-27 Thread Aanand Shekhar Roy
Based on the discussion with @Abhilash, Below is the modified approach for plugin ideas: *Banned Words*: 1. We create a common set of words that are to be banned in a mail. How do you create such a list, who decides which words are banned? Would it be possible to add/remove words from

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 27, 2015, at 01:02 PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA wrote: A personalized mailing list will allow mailman users to send personalized emails to all the list members from a common email template. Almost all the pieces are already there to support

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius test debugging problem : tests_forms.py

2015-02-27 Thread Pranjal Yadav
Hi Abhilash, Thanks for your help. I read that we need to define methods as clean_fieldname however I missed I was cleaning multiple fields. For the listname method it works the way you told me but I tried something similar ( http://pastebin.com/p40A19hU ) and it didn't work. If you could tell me

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
On 2015-02-27 1:06 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that generates summaries for mailing list activity and charts like number of users, number of active users,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MIME footers

2015-02-27 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: Equally important: What would it do to sign a message that's not MIME to begin with? Could it be compelled to turn it into a MIME message, perhaps treating the original as a single-part text/plain message

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MIME footers

2015-02-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 27, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: How absurd would it be to propose a flag for Mailman that would take your first case (non-MIME, or single-part text/plain) and convert it to a multipart/mixed with a child part of the original text/plain, and then apply the algorithm you

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MIME footers

2015-02-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Hi Murray-- On Fri 2015-02-27 14:46:40 -0500, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: Sorry, by sign I meant add a footer. I probably said sign because this is related to some DKIM work I've been planning, and the morning's caffeine was already wearing off. :) Thanks for that detailed answer (and Barry

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MIME footers

2015-02-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/27/2015 12:07 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 27, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: How absurd would it be to propose a flag for Mailman that would take your first case (non-MIME, or single-part text/plain) and convert it to a multipart/mixed with a child part of the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MIME footers

2015-02-27 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2015-02-27 15:07:52 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: The biggest downside, and probably the main reason we append the footer text in the text/plain-compatible-charset case is because of crappy MUAs. I think we *still* get complaints about the MIME composition not being rendered very well.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] MIME footers

2015-02-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/27/2015 01:00 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: Can you point us to those complaints? http://wiki.list.org/x/4030707 and the posts linked from there in the archive of the Mailman-users list and many other posts in that archive.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
Honestly, I don't love this idea. I would be technically feasible with VERP, but it edges into features that are very popular for people sending spam. On 2015-02-26 11:32 PM, Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA wrote: How about having personalized

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that generates summaries for mailing list activity and charts like number of users, number of active users, etc. Would something like this be a good idea or is it

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA
I realize the feature I proposed earlier is more of a commercial feature and might not be be so useful for Mailman as you mentioned it's pitfalls. Are there other directions that I should think in? I am good with Python, Javascript, HTML5. I was wondering if there is a sort of tool that

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Terri Oda
I am quite aware of the definition of spam (in fact, I have a master's thesis on the subject). What I'm concerned about is that in the past, mail merges (which is what you're describing) is a feature that has often been requested by people doing marketing lists. It's not a subset of users

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2015: brainstorming ideas suitable for beginners?

2015-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Ankush Sharma B.Tech. Electronics Engg, IIT(BHU), Varanasi (U.P.), INDIA writes: Spamming would be the case when you are sending the emails to people who don't want to receive such emails. While if we control the email variable to take value from the set of emails of the list members only

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius test debugging problem : tests_forms.py

2015-02-27 Thread Abhilash Raj
Hi Pranjal, I was able to run the tests in ListNewTest, and kind of debug the other test too. In ListNewTest you have two tests doing the same thing, probably you intended at doing something else, but there is nothing in there right now. there is a method of django forms called as `errors`. So