On Feb 17, 2005, at 1:55 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
It's unfortunate that your developer can't adapt to the Mailman coding
style. I work on tons of open source software, and of course lots of
software at my job, and each project has its own coding guidelines.
When in Rome... is the operative phrase
Hi,
Sorry I'm responding late. We had presentations of master theses and I
had to look after 3 out of 8 students for qualification. Moreover, 2
students are Chinese and difficulty in expressing themselves in
Japanese. (Like myself in English :-( )
Adrian Bye wrote:
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 09:33, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
I looked through your code and my feeling is not integrating this patch
in 2.1.6.
We need to put a freeze on new features for 2.1.6. In fact, I think we
should freeze all checkins except show-stopping bug fixes. I'd like to
take between now
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 12:15, Barry Warsaw wrote:
We need to put a freeze on new features for 2.1.6. In fact, I think we
should freeze all checkins except show-stopping bug fixes. I'd like to
take between now and the end of February for testing.
Oh yes, and for all i18n champions to finish
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:15:44 -0500, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I plan on installing the current 2.1.6
on my various sites and I hope others can do the same thing to help test
2.1.6 in order to get an end-of-February release.
I'm willing to install the pending beta 4 if it's
We need to put a freeze on new features for 2.1.6. In fact,
I think we should freeze all checkins except show-stopping
bug fixes. I'd like to take between now and the end of
February for testing.
And, I just talked with my developer, and he got quite upset about the idea of
fixing his
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 13:22, Adrian Bye wrote:
And, I just talked with my developer, and he got quite upset about the idea of
fixing his code to conform to your coding style. So I guess that won't be
possible for now. I certainly understand why you have coding guidelines, I
agree they are
Perhaps I missed this thread, but what standards are there? Link to doc?
Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 13:22, Adrian Bye wrote:
And, I just talked with my developer, and he got quite upset about the idea of
fixing his code to conform to your coding style. So I guess that won't be
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 14:54, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps I missed this thread, but what standards are there? Link to doc?
http://barry.warsaw.us/software/STYLEGUIDE.txt
-Barry
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Dear friends,
I had *no idea* my post was going to generate this level of response.
Thank you all. I'm simply fascinated by the dynamics in the group,
inspired by your generosity, and eager to help out in any way I can.
Let me make a few brief points, then forward another message I just
sent
At 8:54 AM -0500 2005-02-16, Tobias Eigen wrote:
I know all this - and I know you know it, and I know all Mailman geeks
like us get it. The problem is with regular, every day people who are
expecting (and really can be expected to expect) Yahoogroups type
interfaces.
All I can say is that
All I can say is that Mailman is a non-profit open
source project, run by a group of people in whatever spare
time they can manage to scrape together.
The Linux folks haven't cracked the ease-of-use aspects
of their OS compared to Microsoft, not even for the companies
that
Adrian Bye wrote:
If someone wanted to pay large sums of money to make an
open source Yahoo! Groups-beating package, and pay people to
work on that as their full-time job, we might be able to
change this situation -- in time.
We've previously had conversations about some Yahoo groups
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:54, Tobias Eigen wrote:
It's really weird to have to log in
multiple times to access multiple list settings, especially if it's the
same password being used everywhere. It's likewise weird to then be
able to make global changes from one list's preferences page.
Tobias Eigen wrote:
What I envision having in my Mailman/Mambo system is a single user
database with one password per username for all services. Users can
then go to a simple preferences page on Mambo and do basic things
like change their email address or password, tick a box to opt in/out
of
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 11:13, JC Dill wrote:
Right now, I would suggest being patient. I suggest you give it a week
for Barry and the other key developers to to find the time to start
looking at new code after they dig out from their present schedule
overload caused by the recent security
At 11:28 AM -0400 2005-02-16, Adrian Bye wrote:
We've previously had conversations about some Yahoo groups
functionality which
you said wasn't possible:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp
Indeed, we have.
Yesterday I contributed patches which enables
At 8:13 AM -0800 2005-02-16, JC Dill wrote:
I don't know what Brad's key focus is on this list, but I can share with
you that *I* am not a developer in that I don't write code.
I'm not a developer, either. I can do a little bit of hacking
together scripts, but that's about it.
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 11:42, Kevin McCann wrote:
BARRY: would now be a good time to re-energize discussions on the MM3
development list? What is your time like? And are there any plans for a
MM3 sprint? I can send people.
Yes, let's start things back up on mailman3-dev. I definitely plan
Adrian Bye wrote:
Yesterday I contributed patches which enables Mailman to have this exact
functionality which we borrowed from Yahoo Groups. Yet I've seen no response
from you yet, and only one half dismissive response from another mailman
developer.
Since mine was to only reply to your post,
On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:
I try to do all the little things I can, so that Barry and the core
developers can focus their attention on the big things that I have no
hope of ever being able to touch. For the most part, I try to follow
the lead of people like Barry,
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:32:58 -0800, Chuq Von Rospach
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I think its safe to say that it's not lack of interest or intent here
with any of us, but a lack of free time. And time, of course is one
commodity you can't do much about some times.
Ditto. My daughter just
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