Brad Knowles writes:
We can repeat the mantra -- Mailman was *NEVER* designed to be used
in a Service Provider environment, especially not with multiple
customers who may have very different needs,
That's technically true, but Mailman has grown a long list of features
that make it
Gadi Evron writes:
crappy providers aside, do you think this might be a useful
feature?
I think that, as Mark alludes to, this feature would be harder to
implement usefully than you'd think. It sounds easy, but remember, in
a very large share cases where it would be useful *your mail system
1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case)
2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common
for those of us behind corporate firewalls)
3. My email is broken, but my internet it still working
However, even with these reasons, I wouldn't consider it a big deal,
Bill Catambay writes:
1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case)
2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common
for those of us behind corporate firewalls)
3. My email is broken, but my internet it still working
However, even with these reasons, I
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Gadi Evron writes:
crappy providers aside, do you think this might be a useful
feature?
I think that, as Mark alludes to, this feature would be harder to
implement usefully than you'd think. It sounds easy, but remember, in
a very large share cases where it
Bill Catambay wrote:
1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case)
2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common
for those of us behind corporate firewalls)
3. My email is broken, but my internet it still working
However, even with these reasons, I wouldn't consider
On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:42, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org
wrote:
We also need to improve the administrative interface. Mark (and you,
inter alia) have spent *way* too much time typing five levels of menu
navigation into answers to how do I ... questions.
Oh yeah, the UI has much
On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:31 AM, LuKreme wrote:
On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:42, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org
wrote:
We also need to improve the administrative interface. Mark (and you,
inter alia) have spent *way* too much time typing five levels of menu
navigation into answers to how do I
On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
Brad Knowles wrote:
At the very least, you should find a different provider where they actually
give you the support you require.
Brad, crappy providers aside, do you think this might be a useful feature?
I can see that it might be a useful
Gadi Evron wrote:
Actually, I spoke of a possible _announcement_ feature, not an emergency
feature.
I see two requests in this thread. The original appeared to be a
request for a way to send a regular post to a list via the admin web
interface, which would be useful in cases where for whatever
At 7:32 PM +0900 on 11/23/09, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Bill Catambay writes:
1. Mailman aliases not working (like in my case)
2. Unable to access my email, but have access to web (which is common
for those of us behind corporate firewalls)
3. My email is broken, but my internet it
On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The second request, which might also satisfy the first if it were
implemented as a web service, seems to be for a way to send a message
right now to all members of a list (or all lists?) regardless of
digest and nomail settings.
Actually, MM2
At 7:56 AM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I see two requests in this thread. The original appeared to be a
request for a way to send a regular post to a list via the admin web
interface, which would be useful in cases where for whatever reason,
the list was working but email delivery
At 11:05 AM -0500 on 11/23/09, Barry Warsaw wrote:
The second request, which might also satisfy the first if it were
implemented as a web service, seems to be for a way to send a message
right now to all members of a list (or all lists?) regardless of
digest and nomail settings.
Actually,
Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The second request, which might also satisfy the first if it were
implemented as a web service, seems to be for a way to send a message
right now to all members of a list (or all lists?) regardless of
digest and nomail
On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I knew I'd seen that somewhere. Problem was I looked for it as an RFE
and not as an existing feature :)
:)
-Barry
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On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 09:42 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
However, the laundry list of useful features that could be added to
Mailman is several miles long and almost as wide, and I'm not
qualified to judge where on that laundry list this particular feature
would/should fall -- I'll leave that to
At 1:32 PM +0200 on 11/23/09, Gadi Evron wrote:
Actually, I spoke of a possible _announcement_ feature, not an
emergency feature.
Announcement feature would be better, since it's not always going
to be an emergency (and would still work in my situation).
--
,,,
Bill Catambay wrote:
If by send a message, you mean email a message to the normal
foo-list email address, then I'm back to square one (i.e., it will
never reach anyone on the list because of the aliases being whacked).
But, I hope you understand that your specific need/situation - email
At 8:52 AM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Bill Catambay wrote:
If by send a message, you mean email a message to the normal
foo-list email address, then I'm back to square one (i.e., it will
never reach anyone on the list because of the aliases being whacked).
But, I hope you
Terri Oda wrote:
Maybe a nice in-between solution would be making sure the
FAQ/Documentation had an entry saying if you need to get an emergency
message out and Mailman is not working, here's how to get the whole
subscriber list and send a Bcc'ed mail Anyone want to volunteer to
stick that
On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
An ever-increasing number of software packages support the
installation
of 3rd party extensions, said extensions supporting the activities of
installation, deactivation and removal, leaving the core system
unaltered. This provides end
On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bill Catambay wrote:
If by send a message, you mean email a message to the normal foo-
list email address, then I'm back to square one (i.e., it will never
reach anyone on the list because of the aliases being whacked).
Honestly, I don't see Mailman doing
Using Mailman version: 2.1.9
on RedHat
The time to deliver digest messages is set to noon. Is this a Mailman
choice or a RedHat choice.
# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
delivery.
It seems to me that sometime before 8am would be more logical. It would
hone+mail...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu wrote:
The time to deliver digest messages is set to noon. Is this a Mailman
choice or a RedHat choice.
# Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold
delivery.
It seems to me that sometime before 8am would be more logical. It would be
Okay, today was quite the rollercoaster. I finally got an email from
my ISP's Operations group stating that the foo-list-mod email was
working, but when I tried, it didn't work. Bounced just like before.
I called them up, and when I told them it was still bouncing, they
insisted that it was
Bill Catambay wrote:
In any case, I did have one follow-up question (suggestion, actually,
from a member of my list). In the digests, is there any setting that
is available to *me* that will let me put the digest prolog text
(e.g., To subscribe..., When replying..., etc., etc.) at the bottom
How about changing the text?
At 4:21 PM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Bill Catambay wrote:
In any case, I did have one follow-up question (suggestion, actually,
from a member of my list). In the digests, is there any setting that
is available to *me* that will let me put the
On 23-Nov-2009, at 17:21, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Bill Catambay wrote:
In any case, I did have one follow-up question (suggestion, actually,
from a member of my list). In the digests, is there any setting that
is available to *me* that will let me put the digest prolog text
(e.g., To
Bill Catambay wrote:
How about changing the text?
The text is built from the masthead.txt template. A list specific
version of this template can be installed (see the FAQ at
http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9), but not by *you* (unless you start
running your own Mailman). This is not one of the 4
Okay, thanks for the info. I'll go stealth for awhile. :)
At 4:38 PM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Bill Catambay wrote:
How about changing the text?
The text is built from the masthead.txt template. A list specific
version of this template can be installed (see the FAQ at
LuKreme wrote:
I THINK that the No really means that it is not possible.
Not without modifying the source code.
The Digest messages are sent out as multi-part mime messages. Each message in
the digest is a separate mime part. The text of the actual message is the
thing that appears to be a
On 23-Nov-2009, at 17:53, Mark Sapiro wrote:
And list owners and other list members would never have to deal with
posts with Subject: Re: listname Digest, Vol nn, Issue nn and bodies
consisting of Yeah, me too followed by a quote of the entire digest.
/rant
I'm hoping that in MM3 when
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