Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 21:26 -0400, David wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Lindsay Haisley > wrote: > On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 12:30 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > They don't eliminate the Mailman user. They just call it > 'list' rather > > than 'mailman'. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread David
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 12:30 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > They don't eliminate the Mailman user. They just call it 'list' rather > > than 'mailman'. > > Actually, it's barely the same thing. It appears that qrunner gets run > as user 'list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread David
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Dennis Putnam wrote: > > > >Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, 'dumpdb' is not installed and I > >cannot find a package that contains it. > > > It's part of Mailman. it's in Mailman's bin/ directory, not in /bin or > /usr/bin, but /usr/lib/m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lindsay Haisley wrote: > >Actually, it's barely the same thing. It appears that qrunner gets run >as user 'list' out of the mailman init script, but all other Mailman >components are owned by root, group list, albeit all the executables >have group execute enabled. So they're group 'list' and SE

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Putnam wrote: > >Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, 'dumpdb' is not installed and I >cannot find a package that contains it. It's part of Mailman. it's in Mailman's bin/ directory, not in /bin or /usr/bin, but /usr/lib/mailman/bin or somewhere like that. -- Mark Sapiro The high

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Barry S, Finkel
On 5/11/2012 2:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Lindsay Haisley wrote: I just installed, and just as promptly un-installed mailman on Ubuntu server 10.04.4 LTS. The offered pacakge version of mailman for this release, which I used, is 2.1.13-1. The Ubuntu packages are based on Debian. I have a f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread Dennis Putnam
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, 'dumpdb' is not installed and I cannot find a package that contains it. On 5/11/2012 2:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Dennis Putnam wrote: > >> I am having trouble with the listinfo page saying there are no publicly >> advertised lists. I ran 'withlist' and the ou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:37:20PM -0700, Barry Warsaw wrote: > - Probably the best way to get authoritative answers is to contact the Debian >Mailman packaging team: > >pkg-mailman-hack...@lists.alioth.debian.org > >I don't know whether anyone from that team is on this list, or >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 12:30 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > They don't eliminate the Mailman user. They just call it 'list' rather > than 'mailman'. Actually, it's barely the same thing. It appears that qrunner gets run as user 'list' out of the mailman init script, but all other Mailman components a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 11, 2012, at 02:15 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: >I just installed, and just as promptly un-installed mailman on Ubuntu >server 10.04.4 LTS. The offered pacakge version of mailman for this >release, which I used, is 2.1.13-1. > >I have a few questions which perhaps someone could answer, if an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lindsay Haisley wrote: >I just installed, and just as promptly un-installed mailman on Ubuntu >server 10.04.4 LTS. The offered pacakge version of mailman for this >release, which I used, is 2.1.13-1. The Ubuntu packages are based on Debian. >I have a few questions which perhaps someone could

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help needed, mailing list deleted!

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Amit Bhatt wrote: > >Some hacker has deleted our mailing list using backdoor shell spyware. >I expected my service provider would retrieve the list by restoring full >backup. they restored the data, but mailing list is still not there! The list settings, membership, etc. are all in the lists/LIS

[Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I just installed, and just as promptly un-installed mailman on Ubuntu server 10.04.4 LTS. The offered pacakge version of mailman for this release, which I used, is 2.1.13-1. I have a few questions which perhaps someone could answer, if anyone knows the thinking behind Canonical's (and the package

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Putnam wrote: >I am having trouble with the listinfo page saying there are no publicly >advertised lists. I ran 'withlist' and the output appeared normal. >Everything else seems to be working other than managing lists via the >web pages. See the FAQ at . If t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help needed, mailing list deleted!

2012-05-11 Thread David
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Amit Bhatt wrote: > Hi all, > > Some hacker has deleted our mailing list using backdoor shell spyware. > I expected my service provider would retrieve the list by restoring full > backup. they restored the data, but mailing list is still not there! > Now, is there

[Mailman-Users] Help needed, mailing list deleted!

2012-05-11 Thread Amit Bhatt
Hi all, Some hacker has deleted our mailing list using backdoor shell spyware. I expected my service provider would retrieve the list by restoring full backup. they restored the data, but mailing list is still not there! Now, is there anyway to get it back? or we have to create new mailing list.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread David
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > Hi David, > > Looks right to me. > > drwxrwsr-x. 2 mailman mailman 4096 May 9 09:36 . > drwxrwsr-x. 4 mailman mailman 4096 May 9 08:21 .. > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mailman mailman 44 May 9 09:36 cufsalumni -> > /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread Dennis Putnam
Hi David, Looks right to me. drwxrwsr-x. 2 mailman mailman 4096 May 9 09:36 . drwxrwsr-x. 4 mailman mailman 4096 May 9 08:21 .. lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mailman mailman 44 May 9 09:36 cufsalumni -> /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/cufsalumni lrwxrwxrwx. 1 mailman mailman 39 May 9 09:36 dapmm -> /va

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread David
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > After following the instructions for migrating mailman to a new server > ( > http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/How+do+I+move+a+list+to+a+different+server-Mailman+installation. > ), > I am having trouble with the listinfo page saying there ar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery

2012-05-11 Thread David
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > Getting to >99.9% delivery for a mailinglist is not difficult. Unless you > use it to manage your newsletter distribution. > > The trick is: Do not force people onto your mailinglist. Make it a list > were most people are tech-savy (helps

[Mailman-Users] Migration Problem - No Publicly Advertised Lists

2012-05-11 Thread Dennis Putnam
After following the instructions for migrating mailman to a new server (http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/How+do+I+move+a+list+to+a+different+server-Mailman+installation.), I am having trouble with the listinfo page saying there are no publicly advertised lists. I ran 'withlist' and the output appea

Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery

2012-05-11 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 9 May 2012 16:01:57 -0400 David wrote: > It seems to me that Mailman provides at least some of the intelligence (via > logs) that 37Signals custom developed on top of Postfix. Am I right? The > core suggestions seem to be universalL SPF records, DKIM signing, reverse > DNS entries, etc..

Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery

2012-05-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Geoff Shang : > On Fri, 11 May 2012, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > >On the other hand we're getting spam reports for list mails (not > >spam!) our users sent to a list. But since it's not spam we cannot > >actually do anything about those mails while the LIST ADMIN could > >easily unsubscribe the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery

2012-05-11 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 11 May 2012, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: On the other hand we're getting spam reports for list mails (not spam!) our users sent to a list. But since it's not spam we cannot actually do anything about those mails while the LIST ADMIN could easily unsubscribe the people reporting the spam. E

Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery

2012-05-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
> Mailman does have the ability to remove DKIM signatures from incoming > mail where Mailman might break these signatures by, e.g., prefixing > Subject: headers and/or adding list header or footer information to > message bodies, but this is controversial. Also, DKIM signing of > outgoing list mail