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rosters?
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not too long ago was when we would approve the send the
emails were sent 6 to 8 hours later.
This sounds like a rate-limiting situation. You might check with your
Mailman host to see if they limit in any way the number of messages
that can be sent per minute, hour, day, etc.
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Forgot reply-to-all. Sorry for duplicates.
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From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 7, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie Question
To: Marcy Setter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/7/07, Marcy Setter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with a non
On 5/24/07, Carter Braxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
broken template: /var/lib/mailman/templates/en/invite.txt int argument
required
Doesn't look like a size limitation.
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and then to the
listserv. But when it
comes bash through, it get the errors.
Did your configuration ever work? If so, has anything changed?
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Simply put: this is not a site to send multiple mail to your customers.
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they're classifying your list as
spam, and see if you can get on some kind of whitelist.
A good starting point might be Hotmail's 'postmaster' site
http://postmaster.msn.com/.
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admin. Of course, if it's a genuinely unrecognized bounce, this would
result in the sender getting a bounce BACK for the unknown command,
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invitations from Member Management Mass Subscribe. (set
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(Is there a better way to do any part of this?)
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Forgot to 'Reply To All'.
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Too many moderator requests
To: Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/17/07, Paul Kleeberg MD Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
for the list?
i tested it, but it does not work and i don't know
why.
The problem is probably that the /admin/* pages require the list or
site admin password to be in a cookie, and normal users aren't going
to have that.
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if folks are using HTML mail; for plaintext
mail, it'd probably be fairly trivial to modify the code to do this.
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sure that Mailman doesn't use PHP -- It's Python, instead.
So, whatever is going on here, I don't think it has anything to do
with Mailman per se.
Indeed, 'right_main.php' reminds me of squirrelmail, which, IIRC, is PHP.
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( ' )
(7) Press enter, or type in more arguments.
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, as well as in Mailman's logs (post?).
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. It'd be nice to get the rejection rate down.
Dennis
Brad Knowles wrote:
See also FAQ 3.42.
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log entry, but maybe there
are others you didn't include. That's okay. At first guess, I'd
suppose there's something wrong getting the email to your server,
which is somewhat out of the scope of this mailing list.
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in header_filter_rules or bounce_matching_headers that would match a
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Filters in List of non-member addresses whose postings should be
automatically accepted. She is not listed in the subscribers at all, and the
list still won't accept her. Any further suggestions?
Thank you!
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run: 'locate vette,' or 'find / | grep -i vette'
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.
So, this might actually even be a bad thing, since it will give a
false sense of security while actually adding none.
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the address listed as admin!
Can you check Maimlan's 'vette' log and tell us exactly what it says
for one of the rejected posts?
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a non-member. We're a small group
with a tightly controlled membership so it won't be a problem to just
blanket reject messages from non-subscribers. Thanks for your help.
Set generic_nonmember_action on Admin - Privacy Options - Sender
Filters to 'reject' or 'discard'.
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these in mm_cfg.py, the defaults of SMTPDirect
and '0' should be set, which means to use the default from Smtplib.
I believe this is going to be 'localhost'; if this isn't right for
your system, you need to set these things in mm_cfg.py.
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is the piece of software responsible for actually delivering
mail (whether that's delivery to local accounts, forwarding it on to
mailman, or giving it to the MTA at another server). Postfix,
Sendmail, qmail, exim, etc.
Are you the person ('kalin mintchev') that posted the start of this thread?
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programs to be running with its privileges. If there's not a reason
you need to login (either via su or something else), you're probably
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as I know, this isn't possible in Mailman. You'd have to modify
the code.. If you think you're up to it, other folk should be able to
give you some pointers as to the best way to do this.
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On 2/8/07, M. Onur ERGiN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right, I have Mailman 2.1.7 and Python 2.5. Now, should I change the version
of Python or Mailman? or, is there anything else better that you could
suggest?
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is a simple diffusion setup. They use it
as a means to send info to multiple people. So members do not
contribute.
This is fairly standard, and referred to as an 'announce-only' list.
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of Handlers/ToArchive.py, we find:
if msg.has_key('x-no-archive') or msg.get('x-archive', '').lower() == 'no':
return
Commenting out these two lines will get what you want.
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On 1/29/07, G. Armour Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, where do I dig up the membership list, and how do I deal with all
the old URLs?
FAQ 3.4 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.004.htp
should help with this. Let us know if you still have issues.
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with this, such as setting the
Athletics list not to send password reminders (since the password
reminder would go to all of the hockey players list.
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may know better.
I guess this is a production box? Any chance you could build a test
box (vmware image?), install the newest mailman with python 2.2 on
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messages with these requests included;
although this is really just a way to reinforce the idea that they
shouldn't be sending them.
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to discover, right now.)
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on a CentOS-centric mailing list.
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On 12/27/06, AMBROSE CHRISTOPHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
( a whole lot. Snipped. )
Please, do not reply to digests and include the entire digest. I have
no idea what you were trying to ask, because I am not going to read
through however many pages of text that is to find out.
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delivery would work in
this environment? Thanks.
The recommended way is to modify your postfix configuration to deliver
mail destined for mailman directly to mailman.
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., to deliver to the local MTA), and
then use the MTA to deliver to mailman- a configuration that is much
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to what I'm talking about?
Umbrella lists deal with lists that distribute their messages primarly
to other lists, rather than users. So, no, they aren't really related.
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a smart host. This is also pretty
easy to do.
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this held the
message. That said, I'm not sure what action it triggers, so check it
anyway.
You might want to double-check and see if there's any spam filters set up.
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See FAQ 3.13. How do I remove a user name or email address with an
illegal character in it?
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or IMAP server), then it needs to be configured to accept messages
for kcheney for local delivery. If your SMTP relay host is the server
where you read your mail, IT Needs to be set up to accept mail from
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your MX records
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On 12/1/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Patrick Bogen wrote:
Unfortunately, it looks like, since Moderate.py comes before anything
else, there's no really 'correct' way to do this.
It doesn't come before SpamDetect which processes header_filter_rules,
so your suggestion below
? Either
using: netstat -lnp (and looking for port 25) or: telnet localhost 25
and see if the MTA responds (after a few seconds, probably.)
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email weird, and you use that, it's possible that mailman
might miss the header. The handling should be pretty good, though, and
text-only emails should be pretty much foolproof.
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On 11/30/06, Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/30/06, Dominika Tkaczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My second question is: does Mailman use any email authorization or it simply
checks the From: header of messages?
Mailman only checks the From header, but it also looks for a special
mm_cfg.py to whichever values you want. SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is
probably not important, since you're using full personalization.
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of the umbrella list added to
'acceptable_aliases'.
There may be something I'm missing, but I think that's everything.
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It reportedly applies properly to 2.1.8.. I don't know if anyone's
tried it against 2.1.9. If you're worried, just make a backup of
everything before you patch it.
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P.s., please keep all replies on-list
On 11/30/06, Todd Seeleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Patrick,
I looked
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don't believe there's a setting to accomplish this. It shouldn't,
however, be terribly difficult to modify the various methods for
creating lists to generate an announcement to a fixed address,
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Is it possible the message is being pre-approved some other way?
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SpamDetect should be the first handler in the pipeline, which means
that header_filter_rules should be one of the first things checked. I
do not know what is causing your issue.
What does the vette log have to say about these messages?
Please keep all replies on-list.
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On 11/30
text, it should be fairly foolproof). Either way, the
header/line should look like:
Approved: list password
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were held, and not discarded or rejected?
Check the 'member_moderation_action' setting I mentioned.
Also, please try to keep your replies on-list, so that others can
chime in when I'm wrong about things, (which is fairly often! :)
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to be in the
hold space for nonmoderators or list owners. I am wondering if I have
some other problem since i can't unsubscribe by emailing to
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Ken
Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/29/06, Ken Cheney wrote:
First let me say I am very new to Mailman, very new to Linux
happening to the request you send to listname-leave?
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is 'localhost', and the port is 0, which means
the default. If you aren't running an MTA on the machine running
Mailman (from what I understand, you are?), you'll need to change
them. If you've changed them to something else, that may be the
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circumstances, like that which Dan mentioned.
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Another option might be to use a console-mode web browser, such as
elinks. The Mailman pages are pretty simple in their construction, and
so elinks should be more than adequate for whatever you need to do.
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/mailman; will work for me, as long people always
forward port 8080?
This isn't exactly right, but you've got the general idea.
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(and probably will) be overwritten during an upgrade of
Mailman. mm_cfg.py, however, will NOT be overwritten by Mailman's
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of the installation manual
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html and
make sure you followed everything properly.
It might be worthwhile to run check_perms, as well, although I'm not
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where it belongs. Far, far away from mailman.)
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to talk to it. The latter is probably not the case, but it MAY
be due to a network disruption if everything checks out on the MTA
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or !require_explicit_destination, but the umbrella
list address will also need to be in accept_these_nonmembers, or a
member of the sub lists (but the latter, here, is almost certainly a
bad idea. So, stick with accept_these_nonmembers.)
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be covered therein. Once you (mostly) understand
what it has to say, we'll be happy to help you address any issues you
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(it also looks like the base dir is missing in the example.)
That seems like it'd be more efficient. Changed. (Fixed.)
I don't see how the last example would be any better than the first, you
can still fill up the cmd line.
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to
do; and on the scale they work, that's a lot.
Personally, I'd like to see hashcash become widespread, but I guess
that'd be hell for a mailing list.
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that covers the
basics of using and administering Mailman, which is what the linked
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installing from source is that you'd
need to use the same './configure' arguments as you used before.
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from vpsland.com (on which I run Debian,
heh.), which I could run mailman on; it's $11/mo.
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(and what you should be doing now) is filtering spam
at the MTA level; either flat-out rejecting spam there, or tagging it
in some way that you can later reject things at the Mailman level, if
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on why it's broken.
That said, if you follow the procedures given for moving a list to
another machine (except, instead, just move all the files aside while
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might help you figure all this out.
P.s.,
Please CC the list on all replies, so that more well-versed folk can
chime in when I might not know the answer.
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available. I am not sure that they even check mail directed to the list?
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Without getting too into it, your best bet would probably be to switch
providers, if your current provider doesn't offer the level of support
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(however, they're quite inexpensive and
have never given me problems.)
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remove them from there.
Mailman won't actually 're-create' the messages, as far as I know.
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likely caused by MTA issues. Search the FAQ for 'performance'.
Is this the only list on that machine? Are you sure it wasn't a
one-time delay? (E.g., a nameserver that was temporarily inaccessible)
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On 10/20/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Patrick Bogen [20/10/06 13:37 -0500]:
This is most likely caused by MTA issues. Search the FAQ for 'performance'.
Is this the only list on that machine? Are you sure it wasn't a
one-time delay? (E.g., a nameserver
would be helpful.
See:
FAQ 4.11 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.011.htp
and
FAQ 6.3 http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.003.htp
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