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On Thu, 4/9/15, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not
top-post; do away with mailing list digests
To: mailman-users@python.org
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015, 9:46 AM
On 04
On Thu, 4/9/15, Mike Starr m...@writestarr.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not
top-post; do away with mailing list digests
To: mailman-users@python.org
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015, 11:07 AM
On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:56:21 -0700
Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com wrote:
Hello Carl,
(As I've opined before, IME many people consider what we might call
inline posting to be bottom posting. I follow language that usage.)
More and more these days, on many mailing lists, I see *real* bottom
On Thu, 4/9/15, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not
top-post; do away with mailing list digests
To: mailman-users@python.org
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015, 9:46 AM
On 4/9/2015 8:07 AM, Mike Starr wrote:
Great example (below) of why I don't like bottom posting
I'd say it was a much better example of not trimming content and making it
presentable; the quoted part could have been cut to 4-5 lines and preserved
the context for reply. (And the list footer
On 04/09/2015 12:25 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote:
The solutions is quite simple - use top-posting if you answering to
the very whole message or thread (like this).
It will save your time and would annoy nobody.
Except those who receive digests or prefer to read the archives or
actually need the
On 4/9/2015 1:25 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote:
The solutions is quite simple - use top-posting if you answering to
the very whole message or thread (like this).
It will save your time and would annoy nobody. (Don't forget to put
And your premise is wrong already. Top posting on an email list is
On 4/9/2015 12:25 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote:
The solutions is quite simple - use top-posting if you answering to
the very whole message or thread (like this).
Why keep using one scheme only?
P.S. Never use bottom posting please... :)
In order-
You'd be amazed at what would annoy people.
And we can all say that our preferred method is the Platonic ideal of
email replies but out there in the world, most users go with the default
reply location set up in their email client (some of which default to
top posting and some of which default to bottom posting) and if there's
trimming
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On 4/9/2015 9:49 AM, JB wrote:
On Thu, 4/9/15, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features
On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 08:21:20AM -0700, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
I'd say it was a much better example of not trimming content and
making it presentable;
Along with making one's MUA put signatures at the bottom…
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a difficulty for every solution
-- Samuel, on the Civil Service
The solutions is quite simple - use top-posting if you answering to
the very whole message or thread (like this).
It will save your time and would annoy nobody. (Don't forget to put
your signature right after your answer to show others that there is
nothing else below it from you to search for.)
On 4/9/2015 11:21 AM, Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com wrote:
On 4/9/2015 8:07 AM, Mike Starr wrote:
Great example (below) of why I don't like bottom posting
I'd say it was a much better example of not trimming content and making it
presentable; the quoted part could have been cut to 4-5 lines
On 4/3/2015 7:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
with top-posters subject to flaming. But
outside that world, I find top-posting to be the norm. I agree with
the logic of bottom-posting, because it
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 11:26:34AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 4/3/2015 7:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
with top-posters subject to flaming. But
outside that world, I find top-posting to be the norm. I agree
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens j...@forestfield.org wrote:
I also think we should stop offering mailing list digests
Nobody forbids you as list administrator to stop offering digests on YOUR
lists. But why would you like to forbid digests to
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in
favor of bottom posting,
Surely not. Bottom-posting is, if anything, worse than top-posting. With
top-posting at least you get to see the reply[1] at the top
Quoting Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info:
with top-posters subject to flaming. But
outside that world, I find top-posting to be the norm. I agree with
the logic of bottom-posting, because it is--well--logical, but cannot
hope to prevail.
Perhaps you mean interleaved or inline posting, as
On 4/3/2015 4:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in
favor of bottom posting,
Perhaps you mean interleaved or inline posting, as I've done here?
To the vast majority of
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 08:02:03AM -0700, Carl Zwanzig wrote:
On 4/3/2015 4:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in
favor of bottom posting,
Perhaps you mean interleaved
A couple points on top-posting...
I'm a top-poster and not ashamed of it. If I'm following a message
thread, I remember the discussion and don't want to have to scroll
through a weeks worth of responses just to get to the new content.
Some email clients strip all but the first message below
That's what it seemed to me that J.B. was expressing... that the entire
message thread would be repeated in each response.
However, blindly quoting the entire message is the default with many
email tools (other than the few that scrub everything but the text
immediately below the respondee's
Please don't send direct to me, I'm on the list.
On 4/2/2015 3:13 PM, Andrew Stuart andrew.stu...@supercoders.com.au wrote:
I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or
just a list of subject lines.
? Whats wrong with both? Every digest I've ever subscribed to has the
On 04/02/2015 12:13 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or just a
list of subject lines.
Mailman digests have a table of contents with just Subject: and From: name.
On some lists, where I'm only interested in very few topics, I
On 4/2/2015 2:18 PM, Mike Starr m...@writestarr.com wrote:
I'm a top-poster and not ashamed of it. If I'm following a message
thread, I remember the discussion and don't want to have to scroll
through a weeks worth of responses just to get to the new content.
This would only happen if you
In a message of Thu, 02 Apr 2015 15:19:56 -0500, Mike Starr writes:
I'll leave the discussion now... I've seen these top-post/bottom-post
flame wars in the past. It's just like the toilet paper top/bottom
argument. There is no *right way* to do it. It's all a matter of
preference with good
Quoting Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:
On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens j...@forestfield.org wrote:
I also think we should stop offering mailing list digests, particularly
because I don't see a need for them now that bandwidth to most Internet
users is plentiful (plentiful
Quoting Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:
But whatever, I stopped caring much a long, long time ago when I
realized top-posters will never get it simply because they don't want to.
Yes, it's a hopeless battle.
The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in
favor of
On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens j...@forestfield.org wrote:
I also think we should stop offering mailing list digests, particularly
because I don't see a need for them now that bandwidth to most Internet
users is plentiful (plentiful enough to see widespread use of HTML
email, for
I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or just a
list of subject lines.
I don’t want to scroll through the full text of every message in the digest.
On 3 Apr 2015, at 6:06 am, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Richard Damon rich...@damon-family.org wrote:
Another reason that I have been told by some people that they want
people to top post is that their client will show in the message list a
summary of the first line of the message, and they want that to be the
new content to see if it is worth
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